emigration: get over it

Its the level of emigration thats the problem as there will always be a small number of people leaving every year. Every country in the EU has emigration but very few of them will have the forced level that Ireland or Latvia would have.

thebigbiffo wrote: »

yes but we're a small island economy, well educated who speak english - in any downturn we're going to see people head off to the UK, US, Oz whatever because it's simply easier and more attractive than sitting in out...this in itself will make emigration an attractive option. couple this with the fact we're in the EU etc and i'm stumped as to what the big deal is. it's natural.

Here we go, small island mentality:rolleyes:. Plenty of small isolated countries in the EU are doing just fine, we've had serious economic mismanagement by FF which is the cause of this emigration phase. Large emigration is not natural, its forced.

Oh, and NZ is doing just fine and does not suffer the same level of emigration to a large neighbour(Australia) like us.

Cause emigration is just the biz right? There are a million reasons why we shouldn't be happy about emigration, from personal reasons like people being forced out of their home country to make a living, to the fact that the state spends millions paying to educate children and then another country gets the benefits of that training for free. There is basically no positives in mass emigration except for the few who always wanted to leave anyways. But lets just get over it, sure it will make the live register calm down a bit and FF will appear to be fixing unemployment. :rolleyes:

Being forced from Sligo to Galway must have been a blessing

Rented Mule wrote: »

Leaving Ireland was the best thing we could have done for our children. The levels of service that they are openly receiving dwarfs anything that we would have had to fight for in Ireland.

Who is going to change that if people emigrate though? The people who stay are the ones most likely to be able to afford a decentish level of health care, have jobs etc. Basically people who may not be happy with the system now but will do ok in the next decade or two. Meanwhile the people who are angry, who might force some change into this failed states have gone somewhere else. This is the pattern that's been happening since before the state was even created, and its one of the many contributing factors to our ****ty system of political dynasties, corruption and incompetence, personified in that big ignorant ****er from offaly.

karlog wrote: »

Is it ok to leave if you just hate the country.

no you have to stay as a form of punishment.

all i keep hearing ( rte & daily mail\hate ) is people emigrating to non EU countries like USA\ Canada\ Australia, but you need visas is it so easy and happily ever after.

Its a myth, i myself was unemployed a few months back and in dole office i was staggered to see the amount of people signing up to the dole who had just come back from Australia ( oz dream not so great for them )

Go on to forums about Canada and all you read it cry's of help of people who have not worked since they came looking for any type of work bar\waitressing and all for low money minimum wage much less than even our new minimum wage.

As for the USA the only visa available is a restrictive area of study visa, where you must report to your emigration officer every 30 days. Maybe they work illegally, no health care\can't drive a car, resentment from locals where real unemployment is running at 15% same as here, coccuned in an Irish neighborhood living of the favors of relatives.

I have friends and relatives that fit the bill for all i said above, but i also know some who have moved and are doing great but these were highly educated with EXPERIENCE who had jobs arranged before they left, they left by choice, and thats the people these countries want, anybody can pull a pint and clear a table.