Barca show their true colours

eZe^ wrote: »

just hope it isn't a monstrosity.

Once its not that horrid you be fine (one on the right would get it tho)


Btw all this barca hate sucks taking away from my original barca hate i hatered them longerz

Actually quite disappointed with this development. I don't understand why it didn't go to a vote of the socios. Or maybe I do. I can't understand the Barca haters. Maybe they should take some history lessons.

Another interesting development is the emergence of Joan Laporta as a seriously strong political candidate espousing total independence for Catalunya.

On a side note, last night I was talking to a guy from Valencia. He doesn't speak Valenciano or very little because he finished school in 1976, the year after Franco died. It wasn't spoken in schools by decree or at home out of fear.

SHOCK HORROR

A football club is in need of additional funding during a time when their Club, Country and alot of the World are in financial difficulties.

They are obviously some evil club, who by taking on sponsorship of a charity were all along planning to get rid of the charity just to make a profit.

WRONG

The club unfortunately cannot compete financially with other clubs, in particular Madrid, who have an endless bankroll due to the Kings backing in Spain.

Barcelona spend most of their money on Wages to keep and reward the best players in the world at their club, and even then Messi is paid less than the likes of Yaya Toure(£200k), John Terry(£190k), Frank Lampard(£190k), Wayne Rooney(£185k), Ronaldo(€250k), compared to Messi who is the highest paid in Barca at €185k.

They are not removing Unicef, or casting them aside, considering that Unicef have been the first prominent sponsor of their jersey, in which Barca pay for the privilege has been absolutely huge to Unicef, considering Barca's success of resent years, as well as having the best player in the world.

Did Barca see them self being over 400 Million in debt in 2010? I doubt it.

Unfortunately as with the times in many countries, their isn't the same resources as 5-10 years ago, and with footballs currency ever increasing, it is necessary for probably the greatest club team ever to continue to be competitive.

I can understand people hating Barca, because jealousy and begrudgery are in alot of peoples nature, particularly posters on this thread. However to try and make Barca out to be a club with an evil 5-10 year plan to make as much profit as possible is a load of bs!

The club is owned by its supporters, its not owned by a fat American or billionaire sheik, looking to turn a profit or spend their vast wealth on real life Football Manager.

As eZe put, it is more than a club, but not for profit or for greed, but for a welcome relief for a area of Spain who were treated so badly under Franco, a similarity which no one here seems to notice, we too had GAA and Gaelic suppressed for many years, just like the Catalans experienced, and Barca was their only outlet during a difficult time.

At the end of the day, I am 100% certain that Barcelona as a club and World Leader in Football, have been dreading this day, that they need to bring on a sponsor, but financially they had no option.

At least they chose another organisation who have good intentions, whether their from a country which is still 20 years behind alot of the world in certain moral areas. Barca didn't pick a Bookmaker or Bank at the end of the day.

Can we all just appreciate the wonderful football and enjoyment these guys bring on a weekly basis, regardless of what club you support or what country your from, as we can all agree Football is the winner.

Pro. F wrote: »

Lets break this down (and let me know if I've got this wrong somewhere):

Qatar has a very poor human rights record.
This supposedly altruistic foundation is run by the Qatari royal family (ie Qatar).
Barca's other shirt sponsor promotes human rights.

I find that hypocritical. Just because the Qatari organization do some good work, that doesn't make up for what they are a part of.

I don't know if the theory about using the Unicef logo as a staging ground for shirt sponsorship is true or not. It could be, or this could just be a coincidence.

And I don't hate Barca, I like them quite a lot actually. The claims of Barca hate on this thread are a retarded over reaction. The club is doing something hypocritical. Scrutinising and criticising it is normal and shouldn't be effected by how fantastic their football is.

They have been hypocritical since before this, i'm surprised nobody has brought this up.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/mar/15/bunyodkor-uzbekistan-rivaldo-craig-murray

Of course the Unicef deal was a PR exercise and a bloody good one at that.

I love Barca but i'm not blind to the fact that like most other clubs they are run by slimeballs.

What a bitter and twisted thread.

Why are you so bitter about it OP? All the Barca hate on here recently is laughable.

They'd be mad not to take that given the talk about their finances.

JPA wrote: »

What a bitter and twisted thread.

Are you denying Barca's hypocrisy here?

m@cc@ wrote: »

F**k me, are clubs supposed to take into account the sponsor's country as well as the party themselves?

In this instance they are one and the same thing, so yes.

lordgoat wrote: »

Well when they are one in the same then yes. On one hand they are promoting unicef, and on the other they are supporting a regime that is in direct contrast to what unicef stand for - the qatari government.

But they're not, they are supporting the Qatari Foundation, which by the look of things do a lot of good things in a country that is quiet a bit behind where we are in the west. Yes i know the Qatari foundation is funded by the Qatari royal family etc. but thats not who Barcelona are supporting. If anyone here was running FC Barcelona do you think you'd turn down an offer of £30 million a year when the club has debts of over £400 million.

MOG7 wrote: »

But they're not, they are supporting the Qatari Foundation, which by the look of things do a lot of good things in a country that is quiet a bit behind where we are in the west. Yes i know the Qatari foundation is funded by the Qatari royal family etc. but thats not who Barcelona are supporting. If anyone here was running FC Barcelona do you think you'd turn down an offer of £30 million a year when the club has debts of over £400 million.

The Qatari Foundation was set up by, and is run and funded by, the Royal family. If Qatar really wants to do some good then they should stop doing harm first. The foundation is just a vehicle for promoting Qatar in a good light and it seems most of the work it actually does is for the benefit of Qatari nationals (it's the none nationals that suffer in Qatar because of the states' turning a blind eye to trafficking).

Barcelona are helping Qatar promote themselves for a cut of the money.

Bodhisopha wrote: »

If Unicef have a problem with it, they will request that their logo is removed from the Barcelona jersey.

Are they hypocrites if they don't?

I look forward to the "Unicef show their true colours" thread.

It's a good question. Personally I think the answer would be yes. UNICEF promoting the rights of children but happy to be associated with a state that abuses the rights of adults? Sounds like hypocrisy to me. I guess it's a big and complicated issue though.

I just want to point out that all of the above is based on the understanding that Qatar is a state with poor human rights. That's what I've understood from reading around. Maybe I'm wrong. If anybody has a different take on Qatar I would be interested.