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Should gay couples be allowed to adopt?

  • 03-12-2010 03:37PM
    #1
    demolitionman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭demolitionman


    What are your opinions on this?
    Personally, i think it's very unfair to put a child through an upbringing where they will most certainly be victimised and bullied because of having same sex parents.

    and i think if i were putting up a child for adoption, i wouldnt be too happy if i knew it was going to be adopted by a gay couple.

    i know thats not the most politically correct attitude, but sometimes political correctness can extend too far.


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  • #2
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    no


  • #3
    Ruu_Old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    No absolutely.


  • #4
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    demolitionman wrote: »
    What are your opinions on this?
    Personally, i think it's very unfair to put a child through an upbringing where they will most certainly be victimised and bullied because of having same sex parents.

    Well societal opinions are changing! As they change bulling decreases. Should we also stop interracial marriages because it's unfair that the kids at school will slag you for having a black daddy? Move along please, this is the 21st century.


  • #5
    paky
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    i wouldnt be for it anyway. however if society is tolerant of homosexuality there should be no reason to disallow it


  • #6
    mle1324
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭mle1324


    imo no!

    The way I look at it is that when the child goes to school he/she could be bullied for having gay parents, the way i look at it.


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  • #7
    demolitionman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭demolitionman


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    Well societal opinions are changing you chutney trolling ferret! As they change bulling decreases. Should we also stop interracial marriages because it's unfair that the kids at school will slag you for having a black daddy? Move along please, this is the 21st century.


    not trolling at all mate, just looking for opinions


  • #8
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Here's a whole thread on the subject for those who missed it...

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055920378


  • #9
    Princess Peach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    Oh this is making me angry already.

    Of course they should. A child needs a loving upbringing and parents who can provide for them. Why shouldn't a gay couple be able to do that?

    And as for victimising and bullying, children may be bullied for having parents who are different sex, but are alcoholics, or criminals, or poor or whatever. There are so many different sex couples who are bad parents, but nobody questions whether they should be allowed have children.


  • #10
    RockinRolla
    Closed Accounts Posts: 575 ✭✭✭RockinRolla


    Absolutely!

    Don't discriminate against anyone - the fact that homosexual couples cannot marry in this country is a total disgrace and in direct opposition to equality and the rights of those individuals.

    For shame.


  • #11
    sponsoredwalk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    demolitionman wrote: »
    What are your opinions on this?
    Personally, i think it's very unfair to put a child through an upbringing where they will most certainly be victimised and bullied because of having same sex parents.

    and i think if i were putting up a child for adoption, i wouldnt be too happy if i knew it was going to be adopted by a gay couple.

    i know thats not the most politically correct attitude, but sometimes political correctness can extend too far.

    It's nice to know that you're thinking for others & nicely dictating who
    can & can't indulge in human urges, in the interest of niceness & appeasing
    bullies.


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  • #12
    scientific1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    This subject has been done to death already. Someone close this abortion of a thread.


  • #13
    jimthemental
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    What's to say having gay parents is worse than having parent's who drink and kick the sh1t out of you? If public attitude becomes more tolerant of it I think it should be allowed, there are way too many kids in bad situations who could benefit if it was allowed.


  • #14
    Dax Icy Prism
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dax Icy Prism


    Of course they should

    otherwise you might as well say don't adopt ginger kids or kids with glasses or kids who don't have the latest fashions :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    "they might be bullied", seriously, the most crap argument in the history of arguments


  • #15
    demolitionman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭demolitionman


    RockinRolla wrote: »
    Absolutely!

    Don't discriminate against anyone - the fact that homosexual couples cannot marry in this country is a total disgrace and in direct opposition to equality and the rights of those individuals.

    For shame.


    how would you feel if your 5 year old son or daughter in school started being told fairy stories about ''the king and the king'' instead of ''the king and the queen''. this happened in califrnia when it became legal. its disgusting that children that young were being taught about homosexuality.

    Legalising gay marriage is just going to encourage more people into engaging in homosexuality. Homosexuality is simply a behavioural disorder, psychiatrists the world over are in agreement about this.


  • #16
    Mad Benny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Mad Benny


    Yes. A girl was on Dave Fanning recently who has two Mothers. If a child is loved and cared for by two people then how can that be a bad thing?

    It's far better than a single parent and the adoption application process his hard going. The gay parents will be vetted as a male and female couple would.

    I thought we moved on from this in Ireland.

    p.s. I'm not sure I would agree with two ginger haired parents though ;-)


  • #17
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    demolitionman wrote: »
    What are your opinions on this?
    Personally, i think it's very unfair to put a child through an upbringing where they will most certainly be victimised and bullied because of having same sex parents.

    I really really really really really really really really really really hate this argument. If we were to prevent people from adopting for fear that the child might be bullied because of some characteristic of the parents then no one would ever be able to adopt a child. Kids get bullied and victimised for a million different things and school yard immaturity should not decide government policy.

    If we're to prevent gay couples adopting for this reason then I also propose that red haired children should have their hair dyed at birth and be legally required to keep it dyed for their whole lives. If someone found out they were a ginge they might get bullied :eek:


  • #18
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Yes they should be considered.

    Whether they should be given the same priority as heterosexual couples is another matter. If there were no suitable heterosexual couples, then surely everyone would agree that a homosexual couple would be preferable to state care?

    Also [insert usual points about children of mixed race couples being made fun of, and children with glasses, etc.]


  • #19
    Princess Peach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    demolitionman wrote: »
    how would you feel if your 5 year old son or daughter in school started being told fairy stories about ''the king and the king'' instead of ''the king and the queen''.

    Legalising gay marriage is just going to encourage more people into engaging in homosexuality. Homosexuality is simply a behavioural disorder, psychiatrists the world over are in agreement about this.

    Are you joking me?


  • #20
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    mle1324 wrote: »
    imo no!

    The way I look at it is that when the child goes to school he/she could be bullied for having gay parents, the way i look at it.

    Kids get bullied for EVERYTHING, literally the slightest difference gets you bullied. That's a bull**** bigotry masked as "think of the children"

    Fcuk it, if Britney can have a 55 hour marriage and 2 people marry on the whims of complete strangers on Reality TV then why should Gay people not be allowed marry.

    If any retarded 16 year old too stupid to use a condom can have kids then why can 2 loving gay parents not raise a kid that is put up for foster care or adoption.


  • #21
    sagat2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭sagat2


    Should a single man be allowed to adopt a child or a single woman for that matter?


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  • #22
    cheesefiend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭cheesefiend


    I know a couple of kids who grew up in a same sex household and no other children ever said anything to them. Although, the other woman was described as an "Aunt" for a long time but when the kids started realising they still didn't say anything. Tbh, there are a lot of heterosexual couples who do terrible jobs as parents, how can they be any better than a same sex couple? And you can't really say that they shouldn't be allowed to adopt because the kids *might* get bullied, kids can get bullied for wearing a weird coat to school and the others never let it go.
    I mean, do two parents that have bad eyesight say "well we can't have kids because they will most likely have to wear glasses and therefore be bullied"? No because that is ridiculous.


  • #23
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    sponsoredwalk wrote: »
    in the interest of niceness & appeasing
    bullies.

    Because everyone knows the best way of dealing with bullying is to appease it and blame the victim.


  • #24
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,043 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Well currently single gay people can apply, so yes.


  • #25
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    demolitionman wrote: »
    how would you feel if your 5 year old son or daughter in school started being told fairy stories about ''the king and the king'' instead of ''the kind and the queen''.

    Legalising gay marriage is just going to encourage more people into engaging in homosexuality. Homosexuality is simply a behavioural disorder, psychiatrists the world over are in agreement about this.

    I'll have find the correct phrase is actually "The King and the Prince Consort".

    I believe fellatio is in fact a behavioral disorders too, should we ban that?


  • #26
    Up de Barrs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭Up de Barrs


    Adoption is about the best interests of the child not the parents. There are lots of gay couples who would make fantastic parents and should not be prevented from doing so because of some prejudiced and outdated opinions. Similarly there are some gay couples who would not make good parents, nothing to do with their sexuality but just they dont have the skills to required. Same goes for heterosexual couples. As we will hopefully have marriage equality in the country in the next few years it would be absurd not to have equality in relation to adoption as well.


  • #27
    Pawpad666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭Pawpad666


    Yes, yes they should.


  • #28
    tricks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭tricks


    demolitionman wrote: »
    how would you feel if your 5 year old son or daughter in school started being told fairy stories about ''the king and the king'' instead of ''the king and the queen''. this happened in califrnia when it became legal. its disgusting that children that young were being taught about homosexuality.

    Legalising gay marriage is just going to encourage more people into engaging in homosexuality. Homosexuality is simply a behavioural disorder, psychiatrists the world over are in agreement about this.

    So in your opinion, people with behavioural disorders should not be allowed to marry or adopt children.


  • #29
    demolitionman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭demolitionman


    sagat2 wrote: »
    Should a single man be allowed to adopt a child or a single woman for that matter?


    i suppose it would be preferable to being in state care.

    again though, id have some reservations about a single man adopting, less so for a single woman


  • #30
    jackiebaron
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    mle1324 wrote: »
    imo no!

    The way I look at it is that when the child goes to school he/she could be bullied for having gay parents, the way i look at it.

    That's hardly the grounds for passing legislation punitive to a couple. Kids with red hair get picked on and slagged as well. Are you going to prohibit a couple who both have red-hair from having kids becuase those kids will most certainly also have red hair? Are you going to prohibit anybody from adopting a red-haired kid because that kid will be bullied?
    What about white couples adopting a black, or chinese kid?

    Once again homophobes and bigots try to cloak their discrimination in pathetic concerns. Same old shabby trick.


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  • #31
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,923 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I live in the city centre and see an alarming amount of drunk/strung out complete scumbag heterosexual parents dragging children around the place. Screaming at them. Carrying a can in one hand. Absolute nastyness.

    Gay people adopting kids should be the least of your worries when it comes to bad parenting/upbringing.


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