Guide to Premiership Football on satellite

Manc-Red · 27-11-2010 10:13PM

fish fingers wrote: »

Better be careful manc, wasn't he threatning to disembowel you?:D

LOL! - Even he wont start that crap if this goes pear-shaped lol

installer · 28-11-2010 06:53PM

not just gone on spider, i have a tring plus card and there was no footy today or yesterday. well there was just no 3pm

sob1467 · 29-11-2010 09:20AM

There were questions been raised over the possibility of Cyfra+ pairing cards with receivers on other satellite forums this week. I really hope this does not come to pass as I am a subscriber to and I know many other boards members are also subscribers and if cards had to be paired to specific crapppy boxes. The appeal of Cyfra would be much less.

http://www.maldiviandigital.com/f2/cyfra-denies-pairing-cards-89010/

"CYFRA + denies pairing cards

2010-11-26 1:15:20 p.m. / Jacek Grzeszczak
Last updated: 2010-11-26 2:06:58 p.m.
Source: C +
With the introduction of the new HD decoder Sagemcom by CYFRA + satellite platform, appeared on the web about pairing cards with decoders used. CYFRA + indicates that the pairing has not introduced cards with decoders Sagemcom HD. It should be noted, however, that in order for the card has been activated in collaboration with the HD decoder Sagemcom, it must have other rights, which takes a little longer than other types of decoders work with CYFRA + cards.

Activated with decoder cards Sagemcom HD work in all other receivers, and vice versa - the cards that have received permissions to any other receiver (for today it's all the cards that were used), will be active in Sagemcom HD decoder.

Activation of the decoder card Sagemcom HD is unusual because it takes about 40 minutes and should be made to the channels with the frequency 10.796 GHz, pol. V, SR 27500, FEC: 5 / 6; DVB-S/QPSK)."

taken from above link

Minstrel27 · 29-11-2010 10:27AM

Would a Cyfra branded CAM overcome this?

Boggles · 02-12-2010 09:38AM

Manc-Red wrote: »

Crap sub & a crap receiver, I'd say they made an absolute killing out of them.

From someone who has owned in excess of 100 receivers over the years I'd have to strongly disagree with you.

You couldn't actually own one, if that is your opinion?

Leaving aside it's network capabilities, it is as solid as they come for a hd receiver around the 200 euro mark.

Glenviewjf wrote: »

I have the Spiderbox 5000sd...

And the support for it is pretty ****e...

Really, they release a patch and upgrade roughly once a month, I don't know what your used to but in my experience that is unparalleled support???

Newtown90 · 02-12-2010 11:06AM

Come on like grand for the hd boxes but the sd box support isn't good...

They keep saying CCAM is in working order with all forms but its not..

CCAM 2.1.1 is the only compatitable one..

The patches they have produce have been pretty pointless, haven't patched my reciever since august...

denis1501 · 02-12-2010 11:07AM

Agree totally Boggles, You can think what you like about Darkman and his gift but the Spiderbox HD is a good receiver for the price. Aside from the picture quality, which is great, it has many other excellent features.

Boggles · 02-12-2010 11:21AM

Glenviewjf wrote: »

Come on like grand for the hd boxes but the sd box support isn't good...

They keep saying CCAM is in working order with all forms but its not..

CCAM 2.1.1 is the only compatitable one..

CCAM is hit and miss at the best of times, too many dependent variables.

Not going to discuss it but your dealing in the shady wild west at the best of times with any sort of server sharing.

Glenviewjf wrote: »

The patches they have produce have been pretty pointless, haven't patched my reciever since august...

Really even the latest one?

I've owned some boxes where I have had to wait 4-5 years for some form of firmware update.

The Spiderbox is an absolute quality receiver, have completely turned my back on my beloved collection of TMs since I took ownership of two over a year ago.

Newtown90 · 02-12-2010 01:50PM

Boggles wrote: »

CCAM is hit and miss at the best of times, too many dependent variables.

Not going to discuss it but your dealing in the shady wild west at the best of times with any sort of server sharing.

Really even the latest one?

I've owned some boxes where I have had to wait 4-5 years for some form of firmware update.

The Spiderbox is an absolute quality receiver, have completely turned my back on my beloved collection of TMs since I took ownership of two over a year ago.

Ya CCAM is pretty solid on the Dreamboxs though..

Oh i love the box adn wouldn't get rid of it for the world!

The gift and PVR function is what i really like it for!

Pretty user friendly too!

Just think it can be improved in places but for the money you can't go wrong!

Finne1993 · 04-12-2010 03:40PM

3pms not working again on Tring, looks a slightly different issue than last week, this time its just saying access denied or no subscription, looks like the Tring Plus update for the 3pms was'nt activated, its doomed now.

Headshot · 04-12-2010 03:46PM

Finne1993 wrote: »

3pms not working again on Tring, looks a slightly different issue than last week, this time its just saying access denied or no subscription, looks like the Tring Plus update for the 3pms was'nt activated, its doomed now.

some people on alsat forum have it working but most havent

try taking the card out, reboot and put the card back in

Finne1993 · 04-12-2010 04:09PM

I looked at the Alsat forum, from what I can make out theres a lot of bullsh*t being bandied about there, there are only 2 or 3 saying they have the sports channels, and they're either senior members or Admins.
There must be at least 30 people who posted to ay their cards are'nt working.
I have 2 Tring Cards here at the minute, neither have the sports channels working and I know 4 other mates who have the cards also, theirs are'nt working either. I done all the rescans, reboot, remove card etc and it did'nt make one bit of difference

Newtown90 · 04-12-2010 04:16PM

Finne1993 wrote: »

I looked at the Alsat forum, from what I can make out theres a lot of bullsh*t being bandied about there, there are only 2 or 3 saying they have the sports channels, and they're either senior members or Admins.
There must be at least 30 people who posted to ay their cards are'nt working.
I have 2 Tring Cards here at the minute, neither have the sports channels working and I know 4 other mates who have the cards also, theirs are'nt working either. I done all the rescans, reboot, remove card etc and it did'nt make one bit of difference

No doubt they are deleting plenty of comments and threads!!

Ya i'm looking on other forums for info there now..

Starting to think they were a bad buy with the pix quality and now this again...

Ok just found this on another forum...

I have no idea whether its truth or lies so dont hold me responsible if it is not true!

"TELECOM will not send the upload any more .
Sky have threatened BT with court action for uploading the signal .
It will be interesting foz to see what your supplier says , or better still offer you a refund .
The information I got was that there are 3000 cards issued in the UK and ALL are off ."

Kinda hard to believe its possible to do...

Headshot · 04-12-2010 04:29PM

Man if thats true

they'll be after darkmans head, going to be fun

Newtown90 · 04-12-2010 04:31PM

Headshot wrote: »

Man if thats true

they'll be after darkmans head, going to be fun

I'm guessing it isn't on his "gift" as promised either!

Think a lot of people will have comments deleted and be banned on Alsat today:D

Finne1993 · 04-12-2010 04:40PM

Now heres a strange one!!

I have 2 cards here, one starts with 020 0201 and it will not work, full stop. Now after a lot of switching about and rescanning etc my other card is working! it starts with 020 0203.

I bought the one that works off an Irish based ebay seller and the the one thats not working was bought off satfoolsdeals.co.uk which has close to links to Alsat if memory serves me right.
Its a mess!!!

Newtown90 · 04-12-2010 04:49PM

Finne1993 wrote: »

Now heres a strange one!!

I have 2 cards here, one starts with 020 0201 and it will not work, full stop. Now after a lot of switching about and rescanning etc my other card is working! it starts with 020 0203.

I bought the one that works off an Irish based ebay seller and the the one thats not working was bought off satfoolsdeals.co.uk which has close to links to Alsat if memory serves me right.
Its a mess!!!

Something dodgey is definately going on anyways

Headshot · 04-12-2010 04:51PM

http://alsat.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=1556119&postcount=87

Newtown90 · 04-12-2010 04:56PM

Headshot wrote: »

http://alsat.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=1556119&postcount=87

I see there's some dude from bt is saying the threat from sky is real...

Finne1993 · 04-12-2010 04:56PM

Headshot wrote: »

http://alsat.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=1556119&postcount=87

O i'm reading it all day!!
I'm def gonna renew my Sky Italia sub now, I was half thinking of not bothering but I can't put up with this sh*te any longer!

Finne1993 · 04-12-2010 04:59PM

And just like that the other card is working fine once the football is over!!

Newtown90 · 04-12-2010 05:01PM

Finne1993 wrote: »

And just like that the other card is working fine once the football is over!!

Quite amazing, its like they've change it from tring + to just tring so!

Ronan|Raven · 04-12-2010 06:16PM

And next week it will be a different problem

Newtown90 · 04-12-2010 07:10PM

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

And next week it will be a different problem

This weeks excuse is that 3000 tring cards happened to miss an update!!

Alsats mods and admins are so sound and always are willing to listen to the forums posters:P:P:P:P:P:P Not!!...

Headshot · 08-12-2010 12:31AM

do ye see this now

http://alsat.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=336733

Warning: Commercial use of Tring Card.

Tring cards are only sold by Alsat for domestic use in the UK. Unfortuneatley, some of these cards are now being used for public viewing by Pubs etc. The card is not intended for UK commercial use.

To combat this situation - so Tring do not lose all ther games - a last minute encryption of 3pm's has been put in place. This makes it inconvenient for pubs who are waiting to show the game to paying customers. Unfortuneately, to combat the illegal public viewings, this also affects the domestic users who are not using the card as a business tool.

For a last minute update:

Your card needs to be in a conax cam while on Tring Sports News - at the beginning of the game to receive the update, so you may miss a few minutes of the game. That is better than having ALL the Tring EPL games cancelled because a few pubs are using a domestic card in the UK.

Tring are trying to prevent your cards being rendered useless by the FA for all other EPL games, due to misuse by UK businesses.

Alsat do not authorise the use of any card for commercial use.

its the start of losing the 3pm kick offs imo

Newtown90 · 08-12-2010 07:42AM

Headshot wrote: »

do ye see this now

http://alsat.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=336733

its the start of losing the 3pm kick offs imo

Thats some scam if you ask me! How many people with tring plus won't see that and how many people will miss the update!!

Some disaster!

Minstrel27 · 08-12-2010 08:06AM

Oh lol. Gangsters the lot of them.

Pal · 08-12-2010 09:48AM

So watch the match on Nova instead. Brilliant quality. English language. Why care about Tring ?

Newtown90 · 08-12-2010 11:02AM

Pal wrote: »

So watch the match on Nova instead. Brilliant quality. English language. Why care about Tring ?

Oh i know ya

The saying "too good to be true always" comes to mind with tring!

Zardoz · 08-12-2010 02:32PM

Pal wrote: »

So watch the match on Nova instead. Brilliant quality. English language. Why care about Tring ?

Money ...
Nova is nearly 1000 euro a year for an official viewing card ,its huge money and certainly not worth it as they only show 2 3pm matches on a Saturday.
Please dont say that you can watch it on the insectbox for free or similar device as that is illegal.

Guide to Premiership Football on satellite

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