Passive smoking causes 1 in 100 deaths

Mr. Presentable · 28-11-2010 06:40PM

medicman2009 wrote: »

When I worked in the Emergency Department environment, I would gladly take the odd smoking related Respiratory admission as opposed to an alcohol related admission. Why? Because alcohol was our worst enemy. Below is an example of the work alcohol brought our way.

General assaults related to alcohol/associated with alcohol.

Serious assaults (stabbings) related to alcohol/associated with alcohol.

Road traffic accidents (minor, serious and fatal) related to alcohol/associated with alcohol.

Sexual assaults related to alcohol/associated with alcohol.

Spousal abuse/assault related to alcohol/associated with alcohol

and of course ungrateful drunken 8astards assaulting colleagues who were trying to help them. So ya we would gladly take the odd smoker coming through our doors. I can assure you a lot more die in this country for drink related reasons, than passive smokers do.:rolleyes:

So, the essence of your post is that most people die of natural causes therefore we shouldn't bother to apply ourselves to, say, road safety?

It's funny how pro-smokers have the same basic logic as those who regard speed limits as a personal affront.

Just because more people are harmed by another thing doesn't mean we shouldn't address something that's plainly harmful.

Mr. Presentable · 28-11-2010 06:41PM

Venom wrote: »

I remember a few years back the BBC's Panorama did a special about Wifi being 5 or 50 times worse (cant remember which) that Cell phones tower output at it highest point radiation wise.

That'll be the alcy-hol

Son Of A Vidic · 28-11-2010 07:07PM

gsxr1 wrote: »

Because you smoke and work in a hospital does not mean anything really.

Assumptions, assumptions, I actually do not smoke nor am I a former smoker. I also no longer work in a hospital

gsxr1 wrote: »

Can you produce any studies to refute the study that 1 in 100 losing there life due to passive smoking?

Where in any of my posts did I question, or refute claims made about passive smoking? Nowhere if I'm correct! I only merely highlighted the fact that alcohol does far greater damage on a much wider social/economic/health scale.

Again the point I was making is - before people get their knickers in a twist about passive smoking. Consider the greater damage caused on all levels by excess alcohol consumption.

Son Of A Vidic · 28-11-2010 07:22PM

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

So, the essence of your post is that most people die of natural causes therefore we shouldn't bother to apply ourselves to, say, road safety?

Since I was contrasting the effects of excess alcohol consumption against the effects of passive smoking, how can you conclude that I was talking about mortality/morbidity in any of my posts?

The list I posted was a sample of what staff can encounter especially on a Thursday/Friday/Saturday night.This was to illustrate how a hospital Emergency Department can frequently be full of drink related problems, as opposed to passive smoking related problems.

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

..It's funny how pro-smokers have the same basic logic as those who regard speed limits as a personal affront.

Just because more people are harmed by another thing doesn't mean we shouldn't address something that's plainly harmful.

How am I pro-smoking? I don't even smoke. When did I make a pro-smoking statement? I'm basically saying that alcohol dumped more sh1t on my lap than smoking ever did - so how is that pro-smoking?

loike · 28-11-2010 07:30PM

serves them right for not buying their own smokes

bluecatmorgana · 28-11-2010 07:45PM

IMO I hate smoking not smokers. When I used to be in a pub with smokers smoking I would get really bad headaches from inhaling the smoke. The smoking ban was one of the best things ever.
I cant stand people smoking around me or anyone else especially children. Apart from the passive smoking bit it smells bad and gives me headaches.
I think smokers think its a personal attack on them, its not its an attack on the action of smoking.

loike · 28-11-2010 07:50PM

bluecatmorgana wrote: »

IMO I hate smoking not smokers. When I used to be in a pub with smokers smoking I would get really bad headaches from inhaling the smoke. The smoking ban was one of the best things ever.
I cant stand people smoking around me or anyone else especially children. Apart from the passive smoking bit it smells bad and gives me headaches.
I think smokers think its a personal attack on them, its not its an attack on the action of smoking.

some people are actually attacking the smokers tho....
someone called smokers scumbags on the page before

bluecatmorgana · 28-11-2010 08:03PM

well thats just rude...

Worztron · 22-03-2014 03:30PM

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/passive-smoking-causes-irreversible-damage-to-children-s-arteries-1.1713268

darkpagandeath · 23-03-2014 02:47PM

Worztron wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/passive-smoking-causes-irreversible-damage-to-children-s-arteries-1.1713268

Soooooo No information taken about diet then.... Think I heard somewhere an unhealthy diet with fat and sugar does not do your arteries any good... And smoking makes you fat now ?

Since children of parents who smoke are also more likely to grow up to be smokers themselves, and more likely to be overweight, their heart health risks are often already raised, she said, and the second-hand smoke adds yet more risk.

So if they grew up to be overweight smokers that would have a severe impact on the data. But lets just say it’s definitely the SHS.

Worztron · 24-03-2014 10:27AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Soooooo No information taken about diet then.... Think I heard somewhere an unhealthy diet with fat and sugar does not do your arteries any good... And smoking makes you fat now ?

So if they grew up to be overweight smokers that would have a severe impact on the data. But lets just say it’s definitely the SHS.

You and Wibbs should gets jobs as spokes people for your pals, the tobacco companies - the lovely crowd that makes billions off of addiction and death.

The article is about passive smoking. People can choose what to eat, not the air they breath if self centered smokers decide to poison everyone else in the house. The article never said smoking makes you fat.

Do you even read the warnings on the cig packs?

24-03-2014 11:28AM

Didn't take long for the smokers to deflect attention to alcohol

Worztron · 24-03-2014 11:34AM

http://www.thejournal.ie/smoking-ban-ireland-tenth-anniversary-health-benefits-1378119-Mar2014/

darkpagandeath · 24-03-2014 07:45PM

Worztron wrote: »

You and Wibbs should gets jobs as spokes people for your pals, the tobacco companies - the lovely crowd that makes billions off of addiction and death.

The article is about passive smoking. People can choose what to eat, not the air they breath if self centered smokers decide to poison everyone else in the house. The article never said smoking makes you fat.

Do you even read the warnings on the cig packs?

Do you feel the same outrage when a large car goes past a school belching out toxic fumes ? And that's a laugh children get to choose what they eat. Can we clarify how much fat/sugar is in food targeted at children.

wendell borton · 24-03-2014 08:28PM

Breathing is air responsible for most deaths, its oxidising and all that.

Worztron · 25-03-2014 10:42AM

wendell borton wrote: »

Breathing is air responsible for most deaths, its oxidising and all that.

You should be a stand up comedian. :rolleyes:

Worztron · 25-03-2014 10:45AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Do you feel the same outrage when a large car goes past a school belching out toxic fumes ? And that's a laugh children get to choose what they eat. Can we clarify how much fat/sugar is in food targeted at children.

Just for the 'large' cars? The pollution level is not as concentrated and also briefer - a selfish smoker can poison children indoors all day long. Sure, electric cars would be far better but what do you suggest the cars drivers do right now?

Read properly what I posted. I said "People can choose what to eat", not children.

You seemed determined to change the subject in order to defend the rotten tobacco industry. Are you their shill?

Festy · 25-03-2014 11:09AM

Passive religion causes more though

Adamantium · 25-03-2014 11:16AM

In other startling news it has been conformed 100% of all people must eventually die 100% of the time.

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Dravokivich · 25-03-2014 11:20AM

Worztron wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/passive-smoking-causes-irreversible-damage-to-children-s-arteries-1.1713268

So why are their parents leaving them around people who are smoking?

Worztron · 25-03-2014 11:25AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

So why are their parents leaving them around people who are smoking?

The parents are the smokers.

Dravokivich · 25-03-2014 11:31AM

Worztron wrote: »

The parents are the smokers.

Then surely, they are the problem?

Viper_JB · 25-03-2014 11:35AM

I'm sure a large majority of those deaths could be attributed to burning of fossil fuels and other economic conditions, wouldn't be surprised if the research was supported by a large oil/coal company to take the light off of them, we live in an incredibly unhealthy world - to try and pin all these deaths on passive smoking alone seems a bit pseudo science to me anyways...

donegal__road · 25-03-2014 11:37AM

Lung cancer risk cut by eating raw garlic twice per week.

Worztron · 25-03-2014 11:39AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Then surely, they are the problem?

What's your point?

Passive smoking causes irreversible harm to children. What part of that do you not understand? The parents and others should cop themselves on and smoke outside.

Adamantium · 25-03-2014 02:16PM

Viper_JB wrote: »

I'm sure a large majority of those deaths could be attributed to burning of fossil fuels and other economic conditions, wouldn't be surprised if the research was supported by a large oil/coal company to take the light off of them, we live in an incredibly unhealthy world - to try and pin all these deaths on passive smoking alone seems a bit pseudo science to me anyways...

If governments and businesses actually cared about health we's all end up back in the Middle Ages economically. But profit, before health is what is actually going there.

And despite that we're living the longest lifespan's and some of the most unhealthy habits human ever have we're livng longer despite all the hellstorm of crap our bodies take without a word of thanks from us. It's amazing to think about.

In terms of consistent itty, bitty stress, we've WAY exceeded our carrying capacity. It's not the big primal shocks that overwhelm us, it's the small glacial stalagmite that build up on our backs that crushes us and we must confront as part of living with and engaging with modern tech savvy society,
save joining a monstery and living in a cave in the middle of a wilderness. removed from people.

FatherLen · 25-03-2014 02:40PM

AnneElizabeth wrote: »

This is why I hate smokers.

I know this post is from over 3 years ago, but it's stupidity will ring out throughout the years.

Passive smoking causes 1 in 100 deaths

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