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Did we really got the man on the Moon

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭artvandelay


    to any earlier point that a flash made the second light source and blanked out the stars, they didnt use flashes , in fact they didnt bring any artificial light sources.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Originally posted by Sev
    No ground based telescope would yield a high enough resolution to make out the outline of a lunar lander on the moon let alone a flag. Hubble, our most precise eye on the sky, could at best discern detail to a resolution of about 90 metres on the moon's surface, not nearly enough.

    Indeed! I think nasa should send the Shuttle round the moon and video tape the old landing sites, trouble is the ppl who don't belive we've been to the moon don't belive the shuttle or the ISS exists either....

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭ykt0di9url7bc3


    [HYPO-FREAKIN-THETICAL]
    So i'm in charge of NASA for the fake Apollo moon landings....
    I organise the live broadcast set (piano wires and lighting etc)
    I organise for the capsule to be dropped into the ocean
    I give some volcanic rocks and sand from metoer craters to American geologists!
    I take a few pictures on the set of neil or buzz hanging around by the flag BUT I DONT BOTHER MY ARSE TO SCREEN THEM FOR EXTRA SET LIGHT SOURCING INTERFERENCE AND I HAND THEM OVER TO THE WORLD PRESS!
    [/HYPO-FREAKIN-THETICAL]

    Can a multi-million dollar cover-up can resort to that stupidity or is there a simpler explanation!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭artvandelay


    here is a picture nasa mistakingly reslesed!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    Id like to point out how buzz aldren punched a guy and walked out of an interview with a reporter when the reporter asked him to place his hand on the bible and state that he landed on the moon....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Originally posted by Winters
    Id like to point out how buzz aldren punched a guy and walked out of an interview with a reporter when the reporter asked him to place his hand on the bible and state that he landed on the moon....

    How would you feel if you risked your life to do something no-one else has ever done before, and 30 years later some little spa came up to you and said "I don't beleive you! Swear it really happened!". Rightly pissed off I'm sure.

    NASA admitted that some pictures used for publication in the media around the time, were produced in a studio, for various reasons, including the poor quality of many pictures brought back.

    They are due to release a book sometime this year which definitively proves that they did indeed land on the moon. Brace yourselves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭Mutz


    Originally posted by artvandelay
    here is a picture nasa mistakingly reslesed!!

    Lmao!!

    Now that's Comedy!

    I am and will remain a believer that man landed on the moon.
    If we find out otherwise, it might cause lots and lots of problems for everyone :eek: <edit> i.e. What else have they lied about, and then we'll have all those alien wierdos flying around O'connell street preaching armagedon to anyone who will listen etc.. :) </edit>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭Korg


    I know this has been mantioned before somewhere here, www.badastronomy.com

    End of story! Of course we went to the moon!

    The conspiracy theorists keep bringing up the same points over & over again, even though they've been debunked on various websites such as the one above. I'd like to see some new, credible theories as to how nasa faked the whole thing, rather than the same old "no stars", "waving flag", "shadows" arguments. Is there any out there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Sev


    Originally posted by mike65
    trouble is the ppl who don't belive we've been to the moon don't belive the shuttle or the ISS exists either

    Well that's just silly, you don't even need binoculars let alone a telescope to verify the existance of the ISS. Based on orbital elements that are widely and freely available on the internet you can predict passes of it that can be easily viewed with the naked eye. It kinda looks like a bright star moving quickly against the background starscape and takes about 3 minutes to cross the sky from horizon to horizon. Iridium flares, now they're more impressive.

    http://www.heavens-above.com/ if you're further interested.


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    For all of the non-believers...where exactly do you think the rocket went after take off? and how do you explain the return capsule?
    Why are you so quick to believe such a silly rumor?
    I find it quite amusing that people are still falling for these gags on society. Whom ever brought up this question in the very beginning is probably sitting back laughing at all of you people who believe it :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭halkar


    I agree with Mike that Nasa should send images of the landing sites on the moon , especially now they have so many satellites and shuttle missions and the space station , if they can send images of mars from space they sure can send images of moon which is much much nearer. Of course this will cost money but having so many non believers, especially in US and they have the technology to prove easily the moon landing was true.
    For all of the non-believers...where exactly do you think the rocket went after take off? and how do you explain the return capsule?
    Why are you so quick to believe such a silly rumor?

    Off topic but They haven't explain what happened to Boeing 757 suppose to hit to Pentagon either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus



    In for a cent, in for a euro eh? If you're going to believe one crackpot theory you may as well believe them all :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭halkar


    Yep, all crackpot theories and rumors , makes you still wonder. It is not about beleiving, as that is personal matter but still makes an interesting read and looks at the facts from a different angle just like the crackpot theories of moon landing. If you can beleive the media and your government why not beleive the crackpot theories too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    Originally posted by halkar
    If you can beleive the media and your government why not beleive the crackpot theories too?

    Besides the fact that most of them are nuts, their "sources" are dubious to say the least, they've no expertise in the fields they're commenting on and a great deal of them are just attention seekers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    send this man to NASA. he'll find out the truth

    and for the record, the moon was landed on imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭xern


    Originally posted by Runfree
    The anwser is No. Then again I have read reports that this is so because the americans planted a flag on the moon and that none of the telescopes that can acctually see the moons surface never ever saw an american flag + there is no actual proof that they have landed on the moon.

    But I can always be wrong

    You've hit the nail on the head there, it's just another yanky ego trip!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Originally posted by Repli
    I heard nasa staged the fake moon landing to win the 'space race' with russia,
    One of the sites I saw had some pretty convincing stuff, like when houston was talking to apollo, he was responding within half a second, when the radio transmission would have taken 1.5 seconds to reach him
    And then theres the pictures, some of them show 2 light sources casting shadows, and in the most famous pic of buzz aldrin, there is no stars in the background

    Why is it every time this crap topic comes up, the same retard arguments are put forward against and the same answers to say we did...
    Of course there are 2 light sources, who said there was not? I think Nasa had one and oh yeah that real big one called the sun.
    As for no stars? Spot the photographer... firstly do you see stars from earth when the sun is shining... With the exception of Venus and Mercury.. no! Also they used Low exposure time so not enough time to get stars in the pictures... in actual fact there are lots of pictures WITH stars they took with high exposure time.. etc etc etc etc...
    1 Spanner started this whole conspiracy theory, can think of his name but he is a muppet!

    As for no evidence... tell me how to fake a moon rock i.e a rock that can not have come from earth and i will shut up!

    And the arguments of no one with a telescope being able to see a little flag on the moon, what kind of muppetry is that??? The Hubble can barely see Pluto and thats a bit bigger than a flag and does not need to go through atmosphere!!!

    I saw a doc on Discover once that laid all these arguments against... then showed just why every one of them is utter crap. Some is common sense and logic, the rest requires knowledge of physics, or at least photography where you understand shadows and lighting etc...

    [edit] Oh yeah there is another light source on the moon, making 3 i just thought of... the moon itself!! So you have the camera light, the sun and then the lunar reflection... you can also count the white space suits themselves... they would also reflect light making a 4th light source. Oh yeah and the earth makes 4... Its a lot bigger than the moon and is as such, 5 times brighter than the moon as seen from earth!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Originally posted by Sev
    Well that's just silly, you don't even need binoculars let alone a telescope to verify the existance of the ISS. Based on orbital elements that are widely and freely available on the internet you can predict passes of it that can be easily viewed with the naked eye. It kinda looks like a bright star moving quickly against the background starscape and takes about 3 minutes to cross the sky from horizon to horizon. Iridium flares, now they're more impressive.

    http://www.heavens-above.com/ if you're further interested.

    I've seen the ISS myself and its exactly as your describe ie rather borning! But that does'nt mean others of fragile mind might'nt prefere to belive thats its, say, a CIA spy satellite.

    Mike.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭Barry Aldwell


    A good question is why would they go to the expense of firing (with eyewitnesses) the biggest rocket ever made by man off into space if there was nobody in it?

    And that picture of the astronauts without helmets that was "mistakenly" released by nasa could have easily been of the training sessions in the nevada desert, which looks a lot like the moon in certain places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭Lennoxschips


    Question 4 in the link about the Pentagon is silly. It's fairly obvious to me (I study Civil Engineering) that they are pouring gravel and sand on the lawn so that they have a good solid temporary road surface foundation to bring in heavy vehicles and machinery to the site on for the rebuilding work.

    Imagine driving a huge truck/crane over a grass lawn after a good few days rainfall...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Sev


    Originally posted by mike65
    I've seen the ISS myself and its exactly as your describe ie rather borning! But that does'nt mean others of fragile mind might'nt prefere to belive thats its, say, a CIA spy satellite.

    Very true, and yes the ISS is quite boring. But there is no question of wether there are spy satellites up there. Orbital elements for spy satellites are also readily available on the internet and their passes can be predicted, but they would require binoculars to see.

    There are around 9000 objects up there in space floating around, 2/3 of them are merely space junk, used rocket boosters, expired communications equipment etc. Oribtal elements can be acquired for such mundane things as cameras and gloves that astronauts mistakenly dropped during space walks and can in fact be tracked across the sky with ground based telescopes.

    There is a fleet of iridium mobile phone communications satellites up there in low earth orbit that are interesting to track, cos they have very reflective panels that quite conveniently catch and reflect sunlight back to the earth. When their panels align with a viewer on the earth they appear to flare for a short interval often as bright as the moon (a point on its surface).

    The coolest thing about it is that if you have accurately synchronised your watch, you can time these events to the nearest second. Its a goal of mine to try to time one of these bright flares for when im in town someday with people, just stop, point to the exact position in the sky it will appear and count down from 5- to 1. It'd be kinda impressive :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Why does this topic constantly come up?

    Why do retards insist on believing in this stuff?

    With about 10 seconds googling, you can correct your own ignorance to the actual facts of the case, but no, people dont bother with that. Instead they say things like "makes you wonder....oooOOOooo".


    Yes it does. It makes me wonder how man evolved to this stage without some idiot in the corner going "The wheel??? Pfft, its a conspiracy by those commies over in cave 9."


    Im waiting for someone to bring up the "galilio was a conspiracy theorist" argument and im saving a major rant for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,024 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo


    I have watched on documentary on this.There is only going to be one answer to this. China is sending a rocket tothe moon to do detailed analysis of the moon and take lots of pictures which should show all the junk the USA of left behind.

    The rocket leaves in 2006 or 2008 i am not sure but i can tell that China would love to show up the yanks and prove that they did not land on the moon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by irishgeo
    I have watched on documentary on this.There is only going to be one answer to this.

    There already is an answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭Ryo Hazuki


    I heard about some shots of people on the moon, offically released by nasa, the reflection in the helmet was blank, just the moon surface and black.

    So who took the photo?.

    Other photos show a reflection of a man in the helmet, but he has no camera.

    Even more far fetched is the claim that one of the helmets has a reflection of a stage, cameras and people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    of course we went to the moon

    cant you all see the MAN IN THE MOON every single night ?

    sheesh


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