we love heroin

FatherLen · 24-11-2010 03:30PM #1

irish have the highest heroin usage in europe with a rate of 7 in every thousand people on the drug? :eek:
this seems a little high

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1111/1224283092990.html

THE REPUBLIC’S heroin problem is worse than in any EU country for which figures are available – and it also has the longest waiting lists for treatment for those addicted to the drug, a Europe-wide report has revealed.
The research shows an average of seven people in every 1,000 in the Republic are defined as problem opiate, or heroin, users.
This is the worst record of the 15 European states for which heroin-user data was available. The number of heroin users is more than twice as high as the majority of the other countries.
The 2010 annual report for the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction also indicates the extent of the recession-related collapse of the Republic’s illicit cocaine trade.
The number of seizures of the drug has fallen by two-thirds since its peak. In 2007 there were 1,749 seizures, but last year that fell to 635 seizures.
Despite this, the Republic is listed among a small group of EU states – along with the UK, Italy, Denmark and Spain – seen as having a serious cocaine problem.

Revolution9 · 24-11-2010 03:33PM

FatherLen wrote: »

this seems a little high

It's more than a little high

chin_grin · 24-11-2010 03:33PM

FatherLen wrote: »

irish have the highest heroin usage in europe with a rate of 7 in every thousand people on the drug? :eek:
this seems a little high

Princess Peach · 24-11-2010 03:35PM

Its the new Atkins sure.

pickarooney · 24-11-2010 03:36PM

Heroin is my wife and my life.

Sofiztikated · 24-11-2010 03:36PM

Thats roughly 28,000 people.

I thought I saw a while ago that some Irish politician claimed there was only 15,000 drug users in Ireland, and that included people that smoked weed. I can't remember where I saw it though.

What can I say, we love getting whacked out of our gord. Gear, spliff, glue, tabs and a pint of whatever you're having yourself.

biko · 24-11-2010 03:37PM

In 2007 there were 1,749 seizures, but last year that fell to 635 seizures.

I'm sure the epileptics of Ireland are happy to hear this.

godscop · 24-11-2010 03:39PM

anyone find a spoon ?

chin_grin · 24-11-2010 03:40PM

biko wrote: »

I'm sure the epileptics of Ireland are happy to hear this.

What do you call an epileptic in a bush?

Russell.

Fremen · 24-11-2010 03:52PM

There's a great documentary about heroin use in Scotland here. You may have to be in the UK to view it in my link, but I'm sure you can find it elsewhere.

It's quite easy to estimate the number of junkies in a given city and the amount of heroin a typical addict uses in a day. When you compare this against the amount of heroin seized, it turns out that about 98% of heroin use goes undetected.

My personal feeling is more or less the view presented in the documentary - by outlawing heroin use, the government is turning what is effectively a medical problem into a criminal one.

fonecrusher1 · 24-11-2010 03:53PM

Should this not be in the Dublin forum?

chin_grin · 24-11-2010 03:55PM

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Should this not be in the Dublin forum?

Ah hear now.........Oh wait. Yeah!

FatherLen · 24-11-2010 03:57PM

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Should this not be in the Dublin forum?

ha unfortunatley i fear it is nationwide

fonecrusher1 · 24-11-2010 04:00PM

FatherLen wrote: »

ha unfortunatley i fear it is nationwide

Yeah but in all fairness dubs put it in their tea. Heroin tea & cocaine cakes.

chin_grin · 24-11-2010 04:01PM

FatherLen wrote: »

ha unfortunatley i fear it is nationwide

See that's what I thought. But the article confuses me by comparing 'The Republic' (Dublin.....or Cork depending on where you're from!) to the rest of EU which are countries!

Bad writing or am I picking it up wrong?

You decide...................eh........actually don't.

FatherLen · 24-11-2010 04:01PM

no we dont..............................;)

Orando Broom · 24-11-2010 04:06PM

If it's being moved to the Dublin thread it needs to be renamed 'Herradin' or 'The Herradin'

so they'll know what it is.

Dubs are well suited to junkieism. They are already skinny and short and ashen faced from playing the megadrive all day.

FatherLen · 24-11-2010 04:08PM

woah whats with the dublin bashing?!?

CrazyRabbit · 24-11-2010 04:09PM

For Class A drugs;

Automatic life sentences for drug users unless they reveal their supplier and testify against them. If they do this, then the sentence should be reduced to treatment and weekly drug tests afterwards, with a prison sentence for re-using.

Automatic life sentences for suppliers, reduced to 5 years if they reveal their supplier and testify against them (if possible).

Death penalty for manufacturers/growers/importers.

For other illegal drugs, treatment and random testing. Re-using = significant fine. Re-using again = prison sentence.

That'll put a stop to it.

strobe · 24-11-2010 04:11PM

Orando Broom wrote: »

If it's being moved to the Dublin thread it needs to be renamed 'Herradin' or 'The Herradin'

so they'll know what it is.

Dubs are well suited to junkieism. They are already skinny and short and ashen faced from playing the megadrive all day.

Yeah, strutting around in their X-Works jeans and denim jackets, with their boom boxes on their shoulders playing their MC Mc Hammer. Raggamuffins, the lot of them.

strobe · 24-11-2010 04:13PM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

For Class A drugs;

Automatic life sentences for drug users unless they reveal their supplier and testify against them. If they do this, then the sentence should be reduced to treatment and weekly drug tests afterwards, with a prison sentence for re-using.

Automatic life sentences for suppliers, reduced to 5 years if they reveal their supplier and testify against them (if possible).

Death penalty for manufacturers/growers/importers.

For other illegal drugs, treatment and random testing. Re-using = significant fine. Re-using again = prison sentence.

That'll put a stop to it.

[sarcasm]Genius! Are you like, some kind of science doctor?[/sacasm]

Orando Broom · 24-11-2010 04:15PM

strobe wrote: »

Yeah, strutting around in their X-Works jeans and denim jackets, with their boom boxes on their shoulders playing their MC Mc Hammer. Raggamuffins, the lot of them.

With their undercuts and Maximum Rave tapes.

Scrotes.

bonerm · 24-11-2010 04:16PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Thats roughly 28,000 people.

I thought I saw a while ago that some Irish politician claimed there was only 15,000 drug users in Ireland, and that included people that smoked weed. I can't remember where I saw it though.

I'm guessing they also forgot to count drinkers in those figures? But then that's right, taxable drugs don't count.

Augmerson · 24-11-2010 04:18PM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

For Class A drugs;

Automatic life sentences for drug users unless they reveal their supplier and testify against them. If they do this, then the sentence should be reduced to treatment and weekly drug tests afterwards, with a prison sentence for re-using.

Automatic life sentences for suppliers, reduced to 5 years if they reveal their supplier and testify against them (if possible).

Death penalty for manufacturers/growers/importers.

For other illegal drugs, treatment and random testing. Re-using = significant fine. Re-using again = prison sentence.

That'll put a stop to it.

Incredibly niave, won't work at all. I've been saying this for years. Longer, harsher sentences will not stop people from using, selling or distributing drugs. You could give people the death penalty for smoking a spliff, it wouldn't matter, people will still find a way to get out of their heads.

Motley Crue · 24-11-2010 04:20PM

I don't know what's worse, the drug users in Ireland, or the people who spend their time complaining about the drug users without lifting a finger

Orando Broom · 24-11-2010 04:21PM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

For Class A drugs;

Automatic Double life sentences for drug users unless they reveal their supplier and testify against them. If they do this, then the sentence should be reduced to tough treatment and bi-weekly drug tests afterwards, with a tough prison sentence for re-using.

Automatic double life sentences for suppliers, reduced to 5 years if they reveal their supplier and testify against them (if possible).

Double Death penalty for manufacturers/growers/importers.

For other illegal drugs, tough treatment and super random testing. Re-using = highly significant fine. Re-using again = tough prison sentence.

That'll put a stop to it.

Augmerson wrote: »

Incredibly niave, won't work at all. I've been saying this for years. Longer, harsher sentences will not stop people from using, selling or distributing drugs. You could give people the death penalty for smoking a spliff, it wouldn't matter, people will still find a way to get out of their heads.

I've improved on his original idea. I think it would work now.

Fremen · 24-11-2010 04:24PM

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Yeah but in all fairness dubs put it in their tea. Heroin tea & cocaine cakes.

Actually, those are just rasins

General Zod · 24-11-2010 04:24PM

The problem with heroin is it's terribly moreish.

Augmerson · 24-11-2010 04:26PM

Some states in the US have very harsh sentences for drug related offences and it is still no deterrent.

There's something like over 1 million people in jail in the US at the moment - now obviously not all of those people are in there for "drug crimes" but a huge number would be. Imagine if we imposed the same sentences here, our prison population would explode and even then you'd still be able to get Heroin in prison ffs.

Fremen · 24-11-2010 04:26PM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

For Class A drugs;

Automatic life sentences for drug users unless they reveal their supplier and testify against them. If they do this, then the sentence should be reduced to treatment and weekly drug tests afterwards, with a prison sentence for re-using.

Automatic life sentences for suppliers, reduced to 5 years if they reveal their supplier and testify against them (if possible).

Death penalty for manufacturers/growers/importers.

For other illegal drugs, treatment and random testing. Re-using = significant fine. Re-using again = prison sentence.

That'll put a stop to it.

F*ck it, death sentences all round!

karlog · 24-11-2010 04:29PM

With are stupid laws this is no surprise.

we love heroin

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