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Wondering about so called racist incidents?

  • 24-11-2010 01:17PM
    #1
    Wicklowrider
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭


    I wonder how many so called racist incidents have nothing whatsoever to do with racism? I was in a "close encounter" with a foreign national today who wanted me to step onto the road so he could continue cycling on the footpath. Now before he opened his mouth I had no idea he was not Irish so my problem with him could not have been because of his nationality.
    Two weeks ago my son was struck on the arm by a foreign national cycling on a footpath, despite the cycle lane on the adjacent road. Some months ago I sounded my car horn as a foreign national drove onto a roundabout narrowly missing me. He then jumped out of the car and made a run at me before turning and going back to his car and opening the boot - I didn't wait around to see what he had in the boot. These are just some personal examples and I have heard others. So, how many conversations go on the lines of these people being asked civilly ( can only speak for myself) and then the conversations are translated into racist remarks when the foreign national is recounting their side of the story? If the foreign guy at the roundabout got clattered around for getting thick would that have been classed as a racist attack?


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  • #2
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Aren't you presuming that they go off and recount the incident as racist...?


  • #3
    mstan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭mstan


    Thank this post if you regularly have sexual fantasies about young children


  • #4
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    you're allowed to shoot people who cycle on the footpath you know


  • #5
    _feedback_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    you sound more like a cyclist-ist than a racist tbh


  • #6
    Lab_Mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Lab_Mouse


    Wicklowrider wrote: »
    =Some months ago I sounded my car horn as a foreign national drove onto a roundabout narrowly missing me. He then jumped out of the car and made a run at me before turning and going back to his car and opening the boot - I didn't wait around to see what he had in the boot.
    Ah he was only being friendly,he was going to offer you some swan


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  • #7
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    you're allowed to shoot people who cycle on the footpath you know

    I wish I'd known that before now.

    I could have avoided trying to run them over on purpose.


  • #8
    Wicklowrider
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Wicklowrider


    Nodin wrote: »
    Aren't you presuming that they go off and recount the incident as racist...?

    No - I wrote that I was wondering... mainly because I haven't witnessed a racist incident and yet have read/heard on news etc. that there is a racist problem.


  • #9
    fakearms123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭fakearms123


    They see me rollin'
    They hatin'
    Patrollin'
    they tryin' to catch me Wicklowridin. dirty.
    Tryin' to catch me Wicklowridin' dirty.
    Tryin' to catch me Wicklowridin' dirty.


  • #10
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    orourkeda wrote: »
    I wish I'd known that before now.

    I could have avoided trying to run them over.

    yeah, its a pain having to hose the car off after


  • #11
    General Zod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    DEY TUK ER PAVEMENTS


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  • #12
    Wicklowrider
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Wicklowrider


    elviscostello wrote: »
    you sound more like a cyclist-ist than a racist tbh
    You didn't read my username did you? :D
    fakearms123 wrote: »
    They see me rollin'
    They hatin'
    Patrollin'
    they tryin' to catch me Wicklowridin. dirty.
    Tryin' to catch me Wicklowridin' dirty.
    Tryin' to catch me Wicklowridin' dirty.

    I have no idea what this means but it will be playing in my head all day now...


  • #13
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Wicklowrider wrote: »
    No - I wrote that I was wondering... mainly because I haven't witnessed a racist incident and yet have read/heard on news etc. that there is a racist problem.

    It depends on whether a racing bike was involved.


  • #14
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Wicklowrider wrote: »
    No - I wrote that I was wondering... mainly because I haven't witnessed a racist incident and yet have read/heard on news etc. that there is a racist problem.

    ....so they're all making it up then...?


  • #15
    Hasmunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Hasmunch


    I blame the foreigners..... there was no racism in Ireland until they came along


  • #16
    Saadyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Saadyst


    It's been some time since we last had a thread about racism / foreigners - I commend you OP. ;)


  • #17
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    People who cycle at speed on footpaths and across pedestrian bridges are assholes regardless of nationality.

    Why do you presume that someone goes off and says you're a racist because they got in an argument with you in traffic?


  • #18
    anti-venom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭anti-venom


    I've also had a few annoying scrapes with foreign nationals (pedestrians, drivers, cyclists etc), then again, I've also had has many similar scrapes with Irish people. I don't believe that foreign nationals, of whatever nationality, are any more or less likely to be considerate of others on the road.

    If people do, as you believe, play the race card then that's their problem and they suck as individuals. What equally sucks is that some people will believe whatever load of horse**** is told to them by foreign nationals who cry racism at every turn.


  • #19
    JohnP199
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭JohnP199


    Every bit of path we have is covered.
    There isnt even an inch now to walk on.
    All the cyclists had to be taken off.


  • #20
    thebigbiffo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    OP is dead right. sure isn't it a great excuse pleading you've been racially abused, discriminated against etc.

    just watch how quickly this simple point is torn apart by some to see how if you were in a position of authority you'd be forced to accept it without question for fear of being labeled a racist.


  • #21
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    thebigbiffo wrote: »
    OP is dead right. sure isn't it a great excuse pleading you've been racially abused, discriminated against etc.

    just watch how quickly this simple point is torn apart by some to see how if you were in a position of authority you'd be forced to accept it without question for fear of being labeled a racist.

    ...it's torn apart because they're talking shite, tbh.


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  • #22
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Saadyst wrote: »
    It's been some time since we last had a thread about racism / foreigners - I commend you OP. ;)

    Its almost a novelty after all the economy threads. :D


  • #23
    thebigbiffo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    Nodin wrote: »
    ...it's torn apart because they're talking shite, tbh.

    are you suggesting that pleading you were racially abused, disciminated against etc is not as prevalent an excuse for foreign nationals as 'the defendent consumed 15 pints' is for a lad from cavan?


  • #24
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    thebigbiffo wrote: »
    are you suggesting that pleading you were racially abused, disciminated against etc is not as prevalent an excuse for foreign nationals as 'the defendent consumed 15 pints' is for a lad from cavan?

    I am.

    I'd also suggest that somebody who put "nigerians" as one of the great disasters to befall this country really should quit while they were ahead.


  • #25
    thebigbiffo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    Nodin wrote: »
    I am.

    I'd also suggest that somebody who put "nigerians" as one of the great disasters to befall this country really should quit while they were ahead.

    link please. because although i know to what you refer, you're doing your usual trick of hovering somewhere between gross exaggeration and outright lies.


  • #26
    Wicklowrider
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Wicklowrider


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....so they're all making it up then...?

    I am WONDERING if a significant amount of it is.
    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    People who cycle at speed on footpaths and across pedestrian bridges are assholes regardless of nationality.
    Agree. I am an experienced cyclist btw - so have no axe to grind against law abiding cyclists of any nationality.

    [QUOTE=AnonoBoy;69190773Why do you presume that someone goes off and says you're a racist because they got in an argument with you in traffic?[/QUOTE]
    I just wondered about the possibility, mainly because I've seen the racism card played a few years ago. I worked for a multi cultural multi national for years and was involved in an incident where a foreign national claimed I was racist after he'd dropped the ball in an important project. I had never met this man and his name did not give his race away. Yet to cover himself he was willing to hang someone he had never met. It fell apart because I made a conference call and asked him what race/colour was I. HR were on the call when he admitted he didn't know because had never met me - so proving I couldn't have known about his own ethnicity.


  • #27
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Wicklowrider wrote: »
    I just wondered about the possibility, mainly because I've seen the racism card played a few years ago. I worked for a multi cultural multi national for years and was involved in an incident where a foreign national claimed I was racist after he'd dropped the ball in an important project. I had never met this man and his name did not give his race away. Yet to cover himself he was willing to hang someone he had never met. It fell apart because I made a conference call and asked him what race/colour was I. HR were on the call when he admitted he didn't know because had never met me - so proving I couldn't have known about his own ethnicity.

    /Takes notes . . ..


  • #28
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    thebigbiffo wrote: »
    link please. because although i know to what you refer, you're doing your usual trick of hovering somewhere between gross exaggeration and outright lies.

    Never let it be said.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=69047172&postcount=65

    Now you can return the favour and show some of my "outright lies". Thanks in advance.


  • #29
    thebigbiffo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    Nodin wrote: »
    Never let it be said.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=69047172&postcount=65

    Now you can return the favour and show some of my "outright lies". Thanks in advance.

    you're becoming more obnoxious with each post - that was obviously a joke. seriously nodin, is this about all you do with your life?

    edit: your original comment would be more on the gross exaggeration side so. just to clarify.


  • #30
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    thebigbiffo wrote: »
    you're..............clarify.
    .............your usual trick of hovering somewhere between gross exaggeration and outright lies.

    ....the outright lies. The example please.....? If its my "usual trick" it shouldn't be that hard to find a few....


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  • #31
    Degsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    thebigbiffo wrote: »
    you're becoming more obnoxious with each post - that was obviously a joke. seriously nodin, is this about all you do with your life?


    As i've explained before Nodin and others like him are so prickly about matters of "racism" because he feels superior to ethnic minorities and for this he feels guilty.

    In the back of his mind he feels the white race to be suerior and in order to banish these forbidden thoughts he rails against other people's perceived slights against foreigners..this is purely to detract from his own guilt.

    I have a black friend(several in fact) born in Dublin who said to me "I dont have a probelm with racist jokes as long as they're funny but i DO have a problem with pissy-arsed white people saying ' how dare say that in front of him,its racist'..as if i cant speak up for myself".


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