07/12/10 The Budget Day Protest. Are you going?

OPENROAD · 22-11-2010 10:58PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

You may well be right. FF/IMF/ECB taxes and cuts it is!

Think its down to the notice that has to be given before an election and think its 3 weeks.

As for cuts etc.. sadly you does not matter who is in power, cuts etc will be made

Cheap Thrills! · 22-11-2010 11:10PM

I'm marching on every peaceful march until FF get out.

I want second eyes on this deal, the euro is very vulnerable, Portugal are right behind us. after that if Spain falls, which it will, it's all over for everyone.

I do not trust Cowen or Lenihan on this. Let's see the reality and take our own informed decision, lets face it we could do a better job than the two amateurs in charge.

Basic business knowledge is to shop around for the best deal. Transparency is essential here.

There is no more reason for rushed decisions. Let's think this over.

FreudianSlippers · 22-11-2010 11:13PM

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

But if we protest on Budget Day, we won't hear whats in the Budget, which means we won't know what we're protesting for.

They don't actually care about anything other than going out for some misinformed protest so they can clash with Gardaí and drink dutch gold all day.

Snakeblood · 22-11-2010 11:15PM

O'Coonassa wrote: »

Sadly not, it's looking like we'll have to wait another four months for that honour

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/march-election-date-thought-likely-482830.html

Unless of course we stand up and do something about it.

Nah, I'll bet a million he's out by January.

bc dub · 22-11-2010 11:17PM

I'll be attending. I hope there are not violent scenes but the government hasn't completely devastated my life entirely just yet and I'm not the violent type, so I certainly will not be standing shoulder to shoulder with any such citizens.

from what I heard this is a general protest about whatever you feel you want to protest against. surely everyone has something they feel they should protest against? these cronies have affected us, our parents, their parents, our kids and their kids.

El Horseboxo · 22-11-2010 11:23PM

coco1981 wrote: »

Good answer, crap idea

My post was tongue in cheek towards the comments that seemed to associate protesting with rioting and were calling it pointless. It's the typical Irish attitude. Why bother when i can moan on the Internet and get 50 thanks for my done to death comments. This Government have not seen a large scale protest against them with people voicing their opinions. It's always only a small minority that participate. If i was Cowen and i seen only 3 thousand people out protesting i'd be thinking "**** that, the people of Ireland don't really give a fúck whether i quit or not". But if i seen more than 150,000 people out i'd feel a lot more pressure to dissolve before a budget. If more than 100,000 people could turn up for the Iraq anti war protest surely it should be a lot more when it's our own actually country on the line. Nobody knows what a large scale protest would achieve. But yet many Irish people will choose to write it off before it happens.

O'Coonassa · 22-11-2010 11:24PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

There doesn't need to be a vote to 'pass' the budget

So why then are all the media making such a big deal of the narrow FF majority with regard to the budget?

Sofiztikated · 22-11-2010 11:26PM

bc dub wrote: »

I'll be attending. I hope there are not violent scenes but the government hasn't completely devastated my life entirely just yet and I'm not the violent type, so I certainly will not be standing shoulder to shoulder with any such citizens.

from what I heard this is a general protest about whatever you feel you want to protest against. surely everyone has something they feel they should protest against? these cronies have affected us, our parents, their parents, our kids and their kids.

Great. I'll go then so. I want to protest about the lack of decent club music in Cavan.

Terry · 22-11-2010 11:37PM

Overheal wrote: »

You can't take December 7th away from Pearl Harbor :eek:

What's that now?

Folks, FF are gone. You can protest all you want about a budget that you know nothing about, but it won't make any difference.
The general election is just around the corner, and FF will wash their hands of all wrongdoing afterwards.

If you want to do something about it, then make sure that every politician who calls to your door over the next couple of months knows that you want to see FF and the bankers taken to task over what they have done to this country.
Tell them that you demand those who brought our country to it's knees are prosecuted in what ever way possible.
Tell them that you demand that banking regulation is a lot stricter in future.

mickydoomsux · 22-11-2010 11:38PM

O'Coonassa wrote: »

So why then are all the media making such a big deal of the narrow FF majority with regard to the budget?

Sensationalism.

The media are appealing to the idiot-majority with their "sky is falling" garbage that even they themselves barely understand.

O'Coonassa · 22-11-2010 11:38PM

OisinT wrote: »

They don't actually care about anything other than going out for some misinformed protest so they can clash with Gardaí and drink dutch gold all day.

Leaving aside the motives and drinking habits of thousands of people you never met, why do you consider protesting against the Government of the day to be misinformed? Have you perhaps recently heard good reports of them we should all be made aware of?

CiaranMT · 22-11-2010 11:38PM

Those saying that we should wait til we know what we're protesting about have a point.

That said, the apathy on here has me despairing.

OPENROAD · 22-11-2010 11:40PM

Terry wrote: »

If you want to do something about it, then make sure that every politician who calls to your door over the next couple of months knows that you want to see FF and the bankers taken to task over what they have done to this country.
Tell them that you demand those who brought our country to it's knees are prosecuted in what ever way possible.
Tell them that you demand that banking regulation is a lot stricter in future.

You left out you want to see them paid a salary and benefits that reflect the size of the country/economy.

iamstop · 23-11-2010 12:00AM

Overheal wrote: »

You can't take December 7th away from Pearl Harbor :eek:

Terrible movie.

amacachi · 23-11-2010 12:05AM

Terry wrote: »

What's that now?

Folks, FF are gone. You can protest all you want about a budget that you know nothing about, but it won't make any difference.
The general election is just around the corner, and FF will wash their hands of all wrongdoing afterwards.

If you want to do something about it, then make sure that every politician who calls to your door over the next couple of months knows that you want to see FF and the bankers taken to task over what they have done to this country.
Tell them that you demand those who brought our country to it's knees are prosecuted in what ever way possible.
Tell them that you demand that banking regulation is a lot stricter in future.

That's basically my plan, there's no point in kicking up a fuss about something that can't be changed, I'm just going to make sure every one of them knows what I think come election day.

johnn · 23-11-2010 12:23AM

No I'll be staying at home....I've no interest in being battered by the "Big Men" Gardai.

Killer Pigeon · 23-11-2010 12:59AM

O'Coonassa wrote: »

Now Biffo has said his piece then going forwards there appears to be only one option left open for us to avoid being governed by incompetent fools until next March.

If they stay now their Budget isn't going to pass in a fit. Far too many potential voters for the other parties are dead against it. Really the right thing for the Clowen just to have done was resign and call a snap election. Because of the markets the last thing the country needs is another four months of uncertainty.

There is a protest outside Leinster House on Budget day calling for an immediate election. Some are just planning on marching there Some are actually planning on physically ejecting the Glorious Leaders here.

Does After Hours think it will skive off work for the day and partake in venting some frustration at our political establishment?

Imagine this was the Budget Day march except Leinster House being in the place of the British Houses of Parliament at Westminster. A glorious revolution, the foundation of the 2nd Irish Republic. Come comrades! Come and plant the dynamite!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8fI-dGWT74

FreudianSlippers · 23-11-2010 01:01AM

What'd the poor building do to anyone?

partyatmygaff · 23-11-2010 01:04AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Imagine this was the Budget Day march except Leinster House being in the place of the British Houses of Parliament at Westminster. A glorious revolution, the foundation of the 2nd Irish Republic. Come comrades! Come and plant the dynamite!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8fI-dGWT74

Yeah vive la revolution! Let's go blow up some stuff.

O'Coonassa · 23-11-2010 01:38AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Imagine this was the Budget Day march except Leinster House being in the place of the British Houses of Parliament at Westminster. A glorious revolution, the foundation of the 2nd Irish Republic. Come comrades! Come and plant the dynamite!

:eek:

History. You're doing it wrong! Actually it'd be the 7th. (So far declared in 1798, 1803, 1848, 1867, 1916, 1948)

Killer Pigeon · 23-11-2010 01:56AM

OisinT wrote: »

What'd the poor building do to anyone?

Is a symbol, a symbol of Fianna Fáil's dictatorship.

mickydoomsux · 23-11-2010 02:59AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Is a symbol, a symbol of Fianna Fáil's dictatorship.

Oh, do shut the **** up.

None of you asshats opened you mouths when we were all high on the hog, drunk on credit, "thanks to" Fianna Fails leadership (or complete lack of it even). Where was your revolutionary spirit then? Why was anyone who said anything to call into question the mythical Celtic Tiger considered to be a begrudger and they were disparaging our "great nation"? Why were people with even the most rudimentary economic knowledge (what goes up must come down) ignored?

Because, "i gots mine" :rolleyes:

We all got a bite of the apple, we had things good economically (if borrowed money can be considered wealth). Now the debts are being called in so we're all trying to find anyone but ourselves to blame.

FF haven't changed a bit since the last election when we voted them back in like the selfish fools we were. They deserved to be gone back then just as much as they deserve to be gone now. The only difference now is that whoever replaces them will be in a position where they have to do exactly what FF would do anyway if they were left in power through some miracle.

I won't be protesting on budget day because i believe that the cuts and taxes (regardless of who makes them FF, IMF, ECB) are 100% nesscessary to readjust our economy back to some kind of realistic, sustainable model. It should have been done over the course of the past 5 years to give us a soft landing by getting people used to the idea of spending cuts and additional taxes but the current government knew that would have been (earlier) political suicide in our "free money for everyone!!!" society.

Hank_Jones · 23-11-2010 03:02AM

Pity those links are reliant on someone being a member of Facebook in order to see them....

Rather march on Facebook, can't get a computer in college because people want to update their status....

FFUUUUUUARRGGHHHH

snoepys · 23-11-2010 03:03AM

If its an excuse to going drinking after then yes.

mickydoomsux · 23-11-2010 03:09AM

snoepys wrote: »

If its an excuse to going drinking after then yes.

You're supposed to go drinking before and during protests so you can get rowdy when you're langered and then complain about "POLEEEECE BRUTALITY!!!!1111!!!!" when they try to move your drunken idiocy along.

snoepys · 23-11-2010 03:10AM

sounds like a plan:)

O'Coonassa · 23-11-2010 04:00AM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Oh, do shut the **** up.

None of you asshats opened you mouths when we were all high on the hog, drunk on credit, "thanks to" Fianna Fails leadership (or complete lack of it even). Where was your revolutionary spirit then? Why was anyone who said anything to call into question the mythical Celtic Tiger considered to be a begrudger and they were disparaging our "great nation"? Why were people with even the most rudimentary economic knowledge (what goes up must come down) ignored?

Horseshít narrative. You don't have a clue do you? Blaming the plain people of Ireland, who are actually mostly paying their debts on their mortgages, for the FF regulated fraudulent financial sector blowing its wad on the junk derivatives of other fraudsters, and handing out ridiculous loans to dodgy developers and builders.

All the plain people of Ireland did wrong was put their trust in a political class, their representatives, who it turned out EITHER knew next to absolutely nothing about economics OR are crooked and corrupt, and in the pocket of the financial and corporate sector which engineered this whole catastrophe, and just so happens to fund their political factions, and just so happen to be the ones to benefit from the massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich which is being proposed.

Less than one in three of us voted for FF and one in every three of us voted for nobody and that's before we even take into account the blameless children. Away with your slander, it's pure ugly lies handed down by the very same people who are f*cking us over.

syklops · 23-11-2010 09:43AM

Would it not make more sense to protest on the 8th of December? On the 7th you wont know what's in the Budget. How are you going to protest if you don't know what the budget will involve?

Mister men · 23-11-2010 09:48AM

Anyone who cares about the nation and the less well off of the nation will be there. Anyone who's not there don't bother coming on to the likes of this forum to moan and bitch about the state of the country.

Chairman Meow · 23-11-2010 10:25AM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

FF haven't changed a bit since the last election when we voted them back in like the selfish fools we were. They deserved to be gone back then just as much as they deserve to be gone now. The only difference now is that whoever replaces them will be in a position where they have to do exactly what FF would do anyway if they were left in power through some miracle.

Speak for yourself, ive never voted for FF, not once. Why? Because even when i knew **** all about politics, i could still see they were a shower of self serving bastards and Ahern was a ****ing thief.

07/12/10 The Budget Day Protest. Are you going?

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