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Illuminati symbolism in the Music Industry

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭The Recliner


    joebucks wrote: »
    Alot of musicians are big fans of Aleister Crowley. He appeared on the Beatles cover of Sgt Peppars, Iron Maiden front man Bruce Dickinson also wrote a movie about Crowley- Chemical Wedding
    Any Church of Thelema members on this board?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema

    **edit**
    Oops beaten to it by Gizmo, hadn't read on


    Led Zepplin were fans of Crowley too, well Page and Plant anyway
    Jimmy Page bought Crowley old house by a lake which supposedly has a lot of occult history attached to it

    I have seen Chemical Wedding, it isn't great to be honest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭Emme


    For a good insider look into the seedy underbelly of the music industry, Dave McGowan's highly detailed account of the Laurel Canyon based artists is worth a read!

    http://www.mygen.com/Laurel_Canyon-David_McGowan_report.htm

    That's interesting. It might explain some of the symbolism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 728 ✭✭✭joebucks


    gizmo wrote: »



    The story of the movie, Lucifer Rising, or to be more specific, the soundtrack for it, is also an extremely interesting read. Which relates to not only Page but Bobby Beausoleil, one of the "Manson Family".

    Have you seen Lucifer Rising? The IFI had a Kenneth Anger season last Feb,which Anger attended himself. Unfortunately I couldnt make it in, it would've been very interesting. Is it Lucifer Rising worth checking out?
    Kenneth Anger is supposed to be a strange character all together.

    I waas also recommended a docu on Crowley called In search of the Beast,666. Anyone seen it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Hate to burst your bubble but Iron Maiden are not satanic whatsoever. They actually sang a lot about human rights and equality etc. Most metal bands are actually like that. Here's the lyrics of a popular Iron Maiden track.

    Maybe they're not, I've never really looked into them or listened to them, I remeber a load of "Heavy Kettlers" in my school used to be into Iron Maiden and others that I can't remember the name of, they(in my school) used to be into or claimed to be into satanism, so I've kinda always associated the two.

    Heres a song rainmaker, who makes it rain?, the "RainMan"


    This looks satanic to me.
    133670.jpg



    iron-maiden-the-number-of-the-beast-super-duper-music.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    Another couple of tunes anti nwo/illuminati...

    n.b* the dude the put the lyrics on the RATM video got part of the first lyric wrong. The correct lyric is "yellow ribbon instead of A swastika" not "instead of my swastika"...



    Jay Muppets dark illuminati video with a Chris Geo tune over it....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    joebucks wrote: »
    Check out the subliminal in this at 0.42



    That song just makes me hate U2 even more. Its insipid. Its worse than Cliff Richard, I actually prefer Cliff to that crap! Its like it was assembled in a factory for stadium filler anthems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    joebucks wrote: »
    Have you seen Lucifer Rising? The IFI had a Kenneth Anger season last Feb,which Anger attended himself. Unfortunately I couldnt make it in, it would've been very interesting. Is it Lucifer Rising worth checking out?
    Kenneth Anger is supposed to be a strange character all together.
    Yea, I've seen it. It's quite odd to be honest, you can watch it on youtube actually. Part 1 is here with the others on the same channel.

    As for Maiden, they're certainly not satanic although that didn't stop the cranks during the 80s calling them that after the release of the album. The song itself was inspired by both the Robert Burns poem Tam o' Shanter and the bassist watching one of the Omen films.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 728 ✭✭✭joebucks


    gizmo wrote: »
    Yea, I've seen it. It's quite odd to be honest, you can watch it on youtube actually. Part 1 is here with the others on the same channel.

    Thanks will check it out.

    This book looks interesting. About C.I.A's influence on the Arts during the Cold War-The Cultural Cold War: The CIA and the World of Arts and Letters

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/156584596X/ref=nosim/culturevulturene

    http://www.culturevulture.net/Books/CulturalColdWar.htm
    Much of this material, while factually unfamiliar (though the list of folks who took government checks is pretty astonishing: Jackson Pollock, Irving Kristol, Andre Malraux, Reinhold Neibuhr, George Orwell, Bertrand Russell, Stephen Spender, Arthur Schlesinger Jr., and many, many others), is nevertheless ideologically unsurprising, and will dovetail nicely with the previously existing assumptions of the book's intended audience. Those who reflexively distrust government will find plenty here to confirm their suspicions, and those who continue to place blind faith in their leaders will likely dismiss the book out of hand and unread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Divorce Referendum


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Maybe they're not, I've never really looked into them or listened to them, I remeber a load of "Heavy Kettlers" in my school used to be into Iron Maiden and others that I can't remember the name of, they(in my school) used to be into or claimed to be into satanism, so I've kinda always associated the two.

    I remember coming across this on youtube years ago, apparently when its played backwards there is a satanic message. Anyone believe the band did this intentionally?



    Here is some delibirate backmasking from Pink Floyd



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    joebucks wrote: »
    Big owl chain around Kanye's neck- Bohemian Grove/ Molech reference?

    The sign Jay-z puts up is supposed to be a diamond not a pyramid.

    A couple of my friends in college wear owl necklaces. I don't think they're in the Conspiracy.

    As regards metal, most metal isn't satanic, the ones that are tend be pretty overt about it. I'll put some stuff up if aynone is interested, but I doubt it really fits under the CT umbrella (ella ella).

    Iron Maiden are certainly not in the least Satanic.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Its not an owl chain round Kanyes neck in the power vid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Kenny DNK


    doubt it was intentional but theres 3 occult symbols I can spot in this...

    image-1-for-cher-lloyd-katie-waissel-rebecca-ferguson-the-x-factor-girls-photoshoot-gallery-248985327.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Kenny DNK


    doubt it was intentional but I can spot 3 occult symbols here..

    image-1-for-cher-lloyd-katie-waissel-rebecca-ferguson-the-x-factor-girls-photoshoot-gallery-248985327.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭meglome


    I don't really buy any of this. It's not that there isn't satanic imagery as there obviously is. And it's not that there isn't imagery that could be construed as masonic. The main point is in most cases it's not the artists themselves making the artwork, it's designers. It's not the artists themselves who style or set up the photographs, it's photographers and stylists. It's not the artists themselves that direct the videos, it a director and choreographer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    And its not the artists writing the songs its the song writers.
    The artists are mere puppets for the most part it seems,once they gain enough attention they probably stop writing and creating as this will be done for them if it wasnt already manufactured at the start with their personality.
    As many have been trying to point out here,it is the people behind the scenes that are more likely responsible.
    And dare i mention it again....there is a google video done by the freeman perspective that covers lot regarding britney and anna nicole smith mind control and possible split personality.

    Here is a small piece from it with anne nicole smith as her alter ego a child personality.
    Notice he asks her is this a mushroom trip and she has no clue what that means yet is able to discern everything else like a child would at about 5-8 years old id guess.Its also worth mention that according to my research trauma based mind control is important to be done before the age 8 if it is to last into their 40's.The more trauma the deeper engrained.Its disturbing but i have no doubts this is the case here despite what others might assume.

    Just to add my own opinion and extra info.
    In that video Riley is her daughter who is present during this recording and was sounding pretty upset in the longer version.The guy who recorded it to me is obviously the handler for anne nicole and now that she is dead possibly the handler for her daughter now too.
    Its people like the guy behind this camera that need to be brought down and treated for serious psychopathic behaviour imo.That poor child will most likely suffer the same fate.but lets all blame drugs eh..Im sure the story will be inherited drug abuse from her mother in later years and it will all be no suprise.Same ole spoilt celebs out of control.This is where i want to shout wake up! but no point in that,i can live with it if you guys can.


    Here is the link to the full video where disney and other things relating to social engineering and mind control are discussd.It is a bad production,but for me the content is what i find interesting and well worth the watch.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-891321698051955222#

    Ps, i have seen many mushy trips and experienced soem too.That looks nothing like one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭meglome


    Torakx wrote: »
    And its not the artists writing the songs its the song writers.
    The artists are mere puppets for the most part it seems,once they gain enough attention they probably stop writing and creating as this will be done for them if it wasnt already manufactured at the start with their personality.
    As many have been trying to point out here,it is the people behind the scenes that are more likely responsible.
    And dare i mention it again....there is a google video done by the freeman perspective that covers lot regarding britney and anna nicole smith mind control and possible split personality.

    Over 90% of the music I have on my computer, several thousand songs, were written by the people performing them. So I'd have to differ with you on that. Maybe I don't listen to enough throwaway pop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Kenny DNK


    meglome wrote: »
    Over 90% of the music I have on my computer, several thousand songs, were written by the people performing them. So I'd have to differ with you on that. Maybe I don't listen to enough throwaway pop.


    its fair to say that a lot of artists write their own tunes, but a lot of the artists that have affiliation to symbolism have the same songwriters and producers..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    We are talking i hope about illuminatti symbolism in the music industry.I am not into pop but see this is the mainstream music.So obviously it would be more effected or i would at least think so.
    What i mean is many of the mainstream artists using illuminatti symbolism quite alot tend to be pop sensations either groomed for the role or made it their through actual talent.
    I dont deny they can sing but i do think for example taking an artist like kylie minogue with a massive folllowing i would think her later work would be more packed with symbolism than her very early works before she was a megastar.
    Obviously groups like metallica and Iron maiden follow the metal scene which focuses alot on dark thoughts and acts and the illuminatti and satan worship naturally fit into this genre.
    I do think though the bigger and famous the artist the more likely they are to sell out fro more money and fame and hence have more people in the background influencing their music.Hmm metallica(one of my old favourites) justice for all album.im reminded of to "live is to die" or "One" then look at the latest album its crap uninspired,they sold out massively an they even did a song for the soldiers in Iraq..lol?
    The U2 example is a good one i would think.I loved that song where the streets had no name.Now i despise U2 their music is totally crap and seems lately to be more political than musical.
    I guess i tend to exagerate and people pick up on it alot more than i expect.
    Hopefully most know what i am refering to in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭Emme


    Torakx wrote: »
    And its not the artists writing the songs its the song writers.
    The artists are mere puppets for the most part it seems,once they gain enough attention they probably stop writing and creating as this will be done for them if it wasnt already manufactured at the start with their personality.
    As many have been trying to point out here,it is the people behind the scenes that are more likely responsible.
    And dare i mention it again....there is a google video done by the freeman perspective that covers lot regarding britney and anna nicole smith mind control and possible split personality.

    Same ole spoilt celebs out of control.This is where i want to shout wake up! but no point in that,i can live with it if you guys can.

    These people are performers - surely they're acting! Remember that Anna Nicola Smith convinced a 70 or 80 year old man that she was in love with him so she must be a pretty good actress. As for Disney stars like Britney, ok they do put their performers under pressure to work hard but mind control?

    While we're on the topic, here's an entertaining link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YmSh0h-t8w&feature=related


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Emme wrote: »
    These people are performers - surely they're acting! Remember that Anna Nicola Smith convinced a 70 or 80 year old man that she was in love with him so she must be a pretty good actress. As for Disney stars like Britney, ok they do put their performers under pressure to work hard but mind control?

    While we're on the topic, here's an entertaining link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YmSh0h-t8w&feature=related

    As i said most will assume what is portrayed to be true.The relationship was probably an act alright(i wonder did she chose that act or was influenced and passed around like a toy,like marylin monroe etc etc).Did she get alot of money out of it?
    If so where is that money now and in whos control?What about her daughter?does she inherit this money if it exists? who is her handler if they do exist?
    Alot of things to consider and with all the circumstancial and actual evidence, i would think there is alot more behind the scenes than presented on the news.
    I believe the mind control topic with hollywood and the music industry are very much entwined.I have seen no reason to think otherwise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    So I was watching The Daily Show and Stewart had Jay-Z as the main guest. Midway through the show he appears and as he sits down he does the triangle thing with his hands. Finally having some context to the entire thing I looked into it more and it turns out it's not a triangle at all, it's the symbol of his record label RocaFella/RocNation and it's an upside-down diamond. Also of interest, it's the same label that Rhianna is signed to which explains her use of it.

    Roc_Nation_Logo.png

    Mystery (at least in their case) solved?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Im sure they realise after all these years that symbolism can be relative.
    People seeing illumnatti will relate to that upsidedown diamond gesture as a pyramid and if held to the face im sure the eye in the middle would be very symbolic regardless if he says its a diamond.
    Either way i dont know if he is doing it because he is a sap who likes to sell out as much as possible or is actually trying to promote secret societies.
    He is there for the younger more influenced ones.So maybe he can be blatantly obvious and get away with it.
    His fans must love it,because i think he looks like a fool advertising like that.
    And he wouldnt do something unpopular when he needs to make more money out of fans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭MRPRO03


    I suppose that this circle represents an 'Eye' :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    Torakx wrote: »
    Either way i dont know if he is doing it because he is a sap who likes to sell out as much as possible or is actually trying to promote secret societies.

    How is promoting your own label any type of selling out?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Still from Rihanna's video 'rude boy'

    rihanna.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    yekahs wrote: »
    Still from Rihanna's video 'rude boy'

    rihanna.jpg

    Come on yekahs, is that pictrue big enough? Can you get it up maybe?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Undergod wrote: »
    Come on yekahs, is that pictrue big enough? Can you get it up maybe?

    For her. Definitely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Undergod wrote: »
    How is promoting your own label any type of selling out?
    In the context that his hand gestures and lyrics also are very convienient for illuminatti/masonic symbolism and references.
    Its convienient his diamond shape is upsidedown and looks like a pyramid.Also his pics with his eye through the middle....
    Dont you think he can mean it as his label and at the same time illuminatti? Be it for advertising or something else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    gizmo wrote: »
    So I was watching The Daily Show and Stewart had Jay-Z as the main guest. Midway through the show he appears and as he sits down he does the triangle thing with his hands. Finally having some context to the entire thing I looked into it more and it turns out it's not a triangle at all, it's the symbol of his record label RocaFella/RocNation and it's an upside-down diamond. Also of interest, it's the same label that Rhianna is signed to which explains her use of it.

    Mystery (at least in their case) solved?

    Rocafella refers to the Rockerfellers ,John D in Particular ,Universal Music Corp which is based in Radio City in the Rockerfeller centre in NYC is where Rihanna and Jay-Z record their music.The Rockerfellers are supposed to be at the top of all this or they are supposed to be illuminati.The Pyramid or triangle is hidden in plain sight imo. Here.Rocknation could also mean "Rockerfellers nation" to some people ,they're "apparently" the driving force behind the NWO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,665 ✭✭✭seannash


    Has Jim Corr ever commented on this seeing as he would have contacts


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