State Pathologist - S Class Mercedes

thebigbiffo wrote: »

this is the ultimate rabble thread.

the plebians just love a good dig at the aristocracy eh?

she's entitled to drive whatever the f'uck she wants and she's entitled to mileage - it's not her fault she does alot of mileage to deal with the level of scum populating the country.

jesus h christ, this is a new low even for AH. slagging the f'uckin state pathologist now? get a life...

Who's slagging the State Pathologist exactly? I think the more enlightened among us can see problem with ANY state employee parading around in ostentatious displays of wealth when the country is broke.

If someone wants to buy themselves a gold car with a jet engine using their own money, fair play to them - not if I'm paying though.

Bosco boy wrote: »

I wouldn't begrudge her anything! She does one tough job and is a total professional, imagine the week she has just worked! She's the one that should have a state car!

+1 this is one person i would not begrudge anything to.

spyderski wrote: »

. Anyhoo fair play to her

spyderski wrote: »

Who's slagging the State Pathologist exactly? I think the more enlightened among us can see problem with ANY state employee parading around in ostentatious displays of wealth when the country is broke.

If someone wants to buy themselves a gold car with a jet engine using their own money, fair play to them - not if I'm paying though.

This is laughable; where travelling is a large part of your job, you should be entitled to travel in comfort, whether you are privately or publically employed. Whether the appropriate level of comfort is a BMW, a Lexus, an S class, or an E class, is splitting hairs. And no better place for it than right here amongst the ignoranti of AH.

The reasoniong that she has a horrible job and therefore deserves a few perks is nonsense though. One mans horrible job is another man's dream. Im pretty sure if you asked the State Path whether she would prefer to be cutting open dead bodies or sitting at a desk all day, she would choose the former every time. Once you have cut open a few dead bodies and come across a few harrowing crime scenes, that part of the job loses its ability to shock.

x in the city wrote: »

yes, but across the EU, I am sure there would be suitably qualified candidades who would take the role sans the S Cclass and probably for half the salary

that, is the bottom line, and one of the several reasons Ireland, as a country is screwed.

So? The OP was not about changing personnel in the State Path's office. It was about the car and still nobody has linked to anything that shows where the car came from (private or hired) etc. Actually, it doesn't really matter to me. The State Pathologists have to travel tho whole of Ireland (excl. NI) to get to these scenes and also carry out the post-mortems.

In other countries each larger city would have their own Forensic Medicine/Pathology centre so that doesn't happen. But as it stands they have to travel. Have a centre in Cork, Galway and Dublin each and you have pretty much covered the regions.

prinz wrote: »

I too would love to see a breakdown of the staff at the S.P.'s.O., there's not that many of them so it should be an easy enough task. Me thinks the poster is mixing up the SPO with the Garda Technical Bureau tbh.

There should be some admins as well as one or two anatomical pathology technicians (including the State Path's).

As for the last sentence, yes, or maybe mixing it up with the Forensic Science Laboratory in Phoenix Park. This has nothing to do with forensic pathology though apart from sample analysis possibly.

Preusse wrote: »

There should be some admins as well as one or two anatomical pathology technicians..

Yep, they have a few clerical staff, these are supplied by the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform. Never seen a need for these to be members of AGS too though.

prinz wrote: »

Yep, they have a few clerical staff, these are supplied by the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform. Never seen a need for these to be members of AGS too though.

Same for the Forensic Science Lab. Have not seen anywhere that you have to be a member of AGS:

Forensic Science Lab homepage wrote:

...

For the post of Analyst, the minimum academic qualification is a level 7 qualification in an appropriate Science subject.


For the post of Scientist, the minimum academic qualification is an honours degree (level 8), normally in chemistry, analytical science or an appropriate biological subject such as biochemistry, biology or molecular biology, or an equivalent qualification.

Link: http://www.forensicscience.ie/index.asp?locID=21&docID=-1

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

I myself am aware of three people who had to head to england and scotland to get in to the field of career that they wanted, they quoted the hundreds to me. maybe they are exaggerating. That is my vice though I believe friends.

Here is a quick google link for you.

http://www.forensicscience.ie/index.asp?locID=24



Ahem now considering you spent what lets say 6/7 years getting a PhD.... do you think you would degrade your self to do a recruitment interview process and the subsequent basic training for regular cops, eh no. They want to be pathologists not cops:rolleyes:

For the first part of your post: I do believe that many with an interest in forensic pathology here in Ireland will have to move and get into forensic path somewhere else. It's a small island there aren't many posts out there. So what else can they do? Also, when M. Cassidy took over from Harbison she came from Scotland. Not exactly Irish cronyism. She had been in the post of deputy state path for a while and when H. retired she became the state path. How does that link it to "cronyism"?

For the second part and your link: That has nothing to do with the forensic pathologist posts at all. The finger printing and crime scene investigation part is part of the Technical Bureau. Not even the Forensic Science Lab or the State Path Office. Again, nothing in the link says State Paths or Forensic Scientists have to be a member of AGS.

spyderski wrote: »

Who's slagging the State Pathologist exactly? I think the more enlightened among us can see problem with ANY state employee parading around in ostentatious displays of wealth when the country is broke.

If someone wants to buy themselves a gold car with a jet engine using their own money, fair play to them - not if I'm paying though.

right so. nobody who does a very demanding, highly skilled and qualified job has the right to a good wage any more? and furthermore doesn't have the right to buy whatever car she wants? seriously, people wonder why the a'rseholes in power at the moment...thankfully you dont seem to have the basic cop on to ever get there, and for that i'm thankful.

x in the city wrote: »

says the FF devotee

:rolleyes:

but what yer man said above was right about salary, all our public service salaries are on epic LOL proportions.

I saw a role there with the fisheries board a year or so ago for some technician post or the such.

salary? a cool 80k or so.. at the upper end of the scale...(maybe more..)

i'm not defending public salaries, i'm defending the right of the state pathologist to spend what i consider her hard earned money any way she wishes. i've said it before - i dont think you can pay the woman enough. this isn't some admin post in the HSE - this is a very very important demanding and i'm sure stressful job.

ps: your trying to drag politics into this is utterly pathetic

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

I am not in the slightest insulting the honour of the pathologist. But I always find it always better to question authority than to blindly follow like so zombie lemming, for example such as yourself.

Do you know what her wage is?
Do you know if it is in line with the rest of the developed world?
Do you know that there was a fare and unbiased interview for all the best international persons for this position?
Arethe murders and scum as you say any worse/better anywhere else in world?

Now like a good chap, piss off middling quick back to trollville.

first, i'm not trolling and never do.

second, i didn't coment on her salary or claim to know anything about comparison to the rest of the world. this is about a blatant attempt to begrudge a person you know nothing about their (jesus h christ i can't believe i'm even typing this) HER OWN F'UCKIN CAR. are all you plebs for real? why dont you just go blow up the Dail and be done with it. you can drag everyone back down to your level when you've got the guillotine's out. there's better people in the public services higher pay bracket to slag before the f'uckin state pathologist - why dont you start a thread on that? oh yeah - talking about some obscure grade in the diplomatic core doesn't stir the rabble quite like a go at the state pathologist eh? :rolleyes:

pathetic - the lot of ya.

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

Dude this is my understanding that (it was 5 years ago), my mates tried for 2 years to enter the irish forensic team. All the interviewers said/suggested multiple times they applied, that they should apply for the Gardai as there would be a better chance of getting up that ladder and into their chosen fields, as they were still young enough. They are now in forensic fields in england and scotland!

So is this a crude misinterpretation on my part!

Yes. Yes it is.

Think of it like this: Brian wants to be a mechanic for large vehicles. He's looked around but the only options for an apprenticeship are abroad, and he doesn't want to leave the country. Then he hears that the army are recruiting for heavy vehicle mechanics and looks into it. The above does not mean that one has to join the army to be a heavy vehicle mechanic, but it's how Brian had an opportunity to do it.