Squats the story - the Off Topic Thread...

Inspector Coptoor · 14-11-2010 10:30PM

Ok.
I'll play ball.

corkcomp · 14-11-2010 11:21PM

as a regular reader of this forum (not so much nowdays though) ive seen this pattern loads of times before and IMO either banter is allowed or its not.. it seems like its tolerated sometimes and engaged in by mods also and then someone decides its not ok (until next time). personal abuse just ruins the forum for everybody.

BossArky · 15-11-2010 06:56AM

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Ye can stick your forum up your hoop as far as i'm concerned.

Good fucking night.

Exactly the attitude this forum can do without.

It would help immensely if regular posters could create a more positive environment on our Fitness forum. No problems with having a laugh, slagging, joking, etc, but constant homophobic references, childish insults, 1 line After Hours style rebukes reflect badly on the A) the poster and

the forum itself.

The forum belongs to all regulars and you need to see it as a community rather than "me and my mates vs the the newbs/the mods/the other gym/etc"

I'm not expecting eloquent flowing prose in each post. Raise your game a little please.

Hanley · 15-11-2010 09:06AM

BossArky wrote: »

1 line After Hours style rebukes reflect badly on the A) the poster and the forum itself.

The forum belongs to all regulars and you need to see it as a community rather than "me and my mates vs the the newbs/the mods/the other gym/etc"

I'm not expecting eloquent flowing prose in each post. Raise your game a little please.

Too many chiefs, not enough Indians, tbh.

More people seem concerned with arguing with established posters who actually know what they're talking about than actually learning or getting information across.

See dartstothesea's comment re: coaching in the fitness forum needs you thread for the perfet example. What's the point putting together big posts when that's the sort of treatment you get?

There's nothing wrong with debate, but when you have to think more about how much you qualify your post, rather than the quality of the info in it, just so some newb can't (or won't) pick up on the obvious point you're trying to make, would you really be arsed? I know I wouldn't be

Edwardius · 15-11-2010 06:04PM

Day two of the worlds: 80 year old 65kg French man with a beard the size of his head deadlifted 175kg and was up dancing at the reception afterwards while still wearing his lifting shoes.
Didn't get to see much lifting on the first day because I was helping the good half (national records in the squat deadlift and total

) but I did manage to see: Sean Donelan pullin 215kg at 60kg, Laurence McConnell squatting 240kg at 65 years old, Vis smoking the piss out of his opening squat and that Amen-Ra guy destroying a 290kg deadlift at 82kg. Very impressive stuff.

d'Oracle · 15-11-2010 11:48PM

Dead Ed wrote: »

Didn't get to see much lifting on the first day because I was helping the good half (national records in the squat deadlift and total )

Awesome news.

dartstothesea · 16-11-2010 03:00AM

Hanley wrote: »

See dartstothesea's comment re: coaching in the fitness forum needs you thread for the perfet example. What's the point putting together big posts when that's the sort of treatment you get?

That must be the first time on this forum I've actually sort of gone out on a limb to directly call bull**** on something someone said that I genuinely thought was pure crazy, and now I'm your big example about typical posting in the forum?

Sorry if I shouldn't be quoting it in this thread but just to quickly address what you said about it:

wrote:

And of those people who is actually bothered posting anymore? Because pretty much any time anyone you listed posts, they get attacked and people try to pick their posts apart on a pedantic w*nker line by line basis.

Again, I think this is pretty much the first time I did anything like it.
Yeah I was pedantic with your man, have my reasons for it but I don't think many here would give a toss about them and I was keen to drop it as quickly as I took it up to be honest.

Hanley wrote:

The incumbents aren't the problem. It's the people with a little knowledge and a lot of attitude

Yeah, this is me. Definitely on the attitude, at least.
Emphasis on only little knowledge, because...

Hanley wrote:

hoping to establish themselves as some sort of expert

...this really, really isn't me. I'm basically just here to learn. If I ever begin fancying myself as remotely knowledgeable I'm sure I'll be too stingy to go spreading my infinite wisdom around free of charge.
Believe that or don't dude but if you're arsed (I'll assume you're not, just to save you having to tell me that), at least look through my posts here.
Like I said, it was a one time thing because I found one guy's statement crazy and unhelpful.

Oh, and I didn't multi-quote you to have a big, out-of-context go at every little thing you said, sorry if you'll feel that way. I just find it's the clearest way to reply to someone.

Hanley · 16-11-2010 10:36AM

dartstothesea wrote: »

That must be the first time on this forum I've actually sort of gone out on a limb to directly call bull**** on something someone said that I genuinely thought was pure crazy, and now I'm your big example about typical posting in the forum?

Sorry if I shouldn't be quoting it in this thread but just to quickly address what you said about it:

Again, I think this is pretty much the first time I did anything like it.
Yeah I was pedantic with your man, have my reasons for it but I don't think many here would give a toss about them and I was keen to drop it as quickly as I took it up to be honest.

So it was personal yeah? And you just wanted the opportunity to call him out on something?

Yeah, this is me. Definitely on the attitude, at least.
Emphasis on only little knowledge, because...

...this really, really isn't me. I'm basically just here to learn. If I ever begin fancying myself as remotely knowledgeable I'm sure I'll be too stingy to go spreading my infinite wisdom around free of charge.
Believe that or don't dude but if you're arsed (I'll assume you're not, just to save you having to tell me that), at least look through my posts here.
Like I said, it was a one time thing because I found one guy's statement crazy and unhelpful.

Oh, and I didn't multi-quote you to have a big, out-of-context go at every little thing you said, sorry if you'll feel that way. I just find it's the clearest way to reply to someone.

You're completely over reacting. That's par for the course on this forum tho so I'm not really surprised.

dartstothesea · 16-11-2010 11:54AM

Hanley wrote: »

So it was personal yeah? And you just wanted the opportunity to call him out on something?

Ah jesus, no, that's not what I meant at all. Nothing personal. My 'reasons' were that a bit of regular, gentle peer pressure about using good English eventually leaves you with a forum where everyone can and does properly use the language they're supposed to be posting in... I know plenty will be quick to shout "this is a fitness board, you should be training instead of caring!!" but like I said though, was keen to drop it immediately and didn't even want to go on about the reasons I brought it up.

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You're completely over reacting. That's par for the course on this forum tho so I'm not really surprised.

Yeah, pretty much agree. Given the reaction and all I definitely feel now I should've never bothered reacting, anyway.
Gonna just go back to happily lurking as usual instead of calling bull**** on anything I find silly/untrue.

Remmy · 16-11-2010 09:36PM

This came on my mp3 today when I was working out.epic song..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBwvuSQ6l6o

Renn · 18-11-2010 05:02PM

Doing 5/3/1 at the moment guys...Want to do squat and military press tomorrow and deadlift and bench press on the Saturday - good idea/bad idea?

I'm basically trying to work out a schedule for the run up to Christmas and getting these two sessions done over the two days would mean I could fit two cycles in before the 25th Dec (not doing the deload week inbetween - jumping straight to Week 1 of the second cycle).

Appreciate your thoughts on this, thanks!

Molly · 18-11-2010 05:09PM

It's doable, somethings to consider though.

1) You should squat before military press and you should deadlift before benching. I think wendler even mentions this in the book.
2) You might be better served by doing all of your main lifts before doing your accessory work especially if you're doing big but boring.

newby.204 · 18-11-2010 05:12PM

Renn wrote: »

Doing 5/3/1 at the moment guys...Want to do squat and military press tomorrow and deadlift and bench press on the Saturday - good idea/bad idea?

I'm basically trying to work out a schedule for the run up to Christmas and getting these two sessions done over the two days would mean I could fit two cycles in before the 25th Dec (not doing the deload week inbetween - jumping straight to Week 1 of the second cycle).

Appreciate your thoughts on this, thanks!

I am by no means an expert, but i did 531boring but big for a few months, i wouldnt try do two sessions combined your asking for trouble really, if the weight is anyway heavy you will be fooked trying to do for e.g. deadlift and bench together especially on the 531 day. it was designed at one cycle a month id stick to that. the more experienced lads might think different but that my two cents.

eroo · 18-11-2010 05:31PM

BossArky wrote: »

The forum belongs to all regulars and you need to see it as a community rather than "me and my mates vs the the newbs/the mods/the other gym/etc"

This is exactly the issue BossArky!

I presume dartothseas and Hanley's conversation realated to my comment about not getting proper form solely from a book.Well, I stand by that.

@Hanley, your attitude in your posts stinks imo, and has for a long time.
You deem yourself knowledgeable, and you are, but you just don't seem to be able to leave your ego at the door. It goes everywhere with you.. right down to replying to mods.. all smart comments and profanities etc. Far too long have you acted this way. It doesn't help anybody, least of all your reputation.

@dartotheseas, if you have an issue with a post then engage in intelligent debate rather than referring to my point of view as 'horse****'.

As I said before, I fully support the mods here because this forum needs a clean slate. The hostile environment g'em speaks of does exist and has for a long time. This is not a forum for little groups to slag each other; this forum is for people to be supported in attaining their goals, to be educated in their training and at times to engage in intelligent, calm and constructive debate.

d'Oracle · 18-11-2010 05:45PM

eroo wrote: »

This is exactly the issue BossArky!

I presume dartothseas and Hanley's conversation realated to my comment about not getting proper form solely from a book.Well, I stand by that.

@Hanley, your attitude in your posts stinks imo, and has for a long time.
You deem yourself knowledgeable, and you are, but you just don't seem to be able to leave your ego at the door. It goes everywhere with you.. right down to replying to mods.. all smart comments and profanities etc. Far too long have you acted this way. It doesn't help anybody, least of all your reputation.

@dartotheseas, if you have an issue with a post then engage in intelligent debate rather than referring to my point of view as 'horse****'.

As I said before, I fully support the mods here because this forum needs a clean slate. The hostile environment g'em speaks of does exist and has for a long time. This is not a forum for little groups to slag each other; this forum is for people to be supported in attaining their goals, to be educated in their training and at times to engage in intelligent, calm and constructive debate.

Good lord....Do we really need this?

These peoples last posts were two days ago.
What is dragging them up to lecture them really going to achieve?
Its certainly not constructive.

Hanley · 18-11-2010 06:27PM

eroo wrote: »

This is exactly the issue BossArky!

I presume dartothseas and Hanley's conversation realated to my comment about not getting proper form solely from a book.Well, I stand by that.

@Hanley, your attitude in your posts stinks imo, and has for a long time.
You deem yourself knowledgeable, and you are, but you just don't seem to be able to leave your ego at the door. It goes everywhere with you.. right down to replying to mods.. all smart comments and profanities etc. Far too long have you acted this way. It doesn't help anybody, least of all your reputation.

@dartotheseas, if you have an issue with a post then engage in intelligent debate rather than referring to my point of view as 'horse****'.

As I said before, I fully support the mods here because this forum needs a clean slate. The hostile environment g'em speaks of does exist and has for a long time. This is not a forum for little groups to slag each other; this forum is for people to be supported in attaining their goals, to be educated in their training and at times to engage in intelligent, calm and constructive debate.

Lol you're funny... I could have absolutely served you the other day when you started talking about squats and deadlifts involving triple extenstion, but I figured you may have just made a mistake or didn't realise what you were saying, so I was nice about it. Good to see that was appreciated.

I know most of the mods in real life, some I would consider friends. Others have been very helpful to me, as I have to them. I talk to them on here as I would in person. I'm sure they'll confirm that. If you don't like that, tough. If they don't like it, they can tell me.

But it's funny that you think my posts don't help anybody. Have a look at my post history over the last few days and compare how many people I've helped versus how many you have k?

Ugh. There's my ego again.

Renn · 18-11-2010 06:29PM

Basically confirming what he's just said, wp.

d'Oracle · 18-11-2010 06:39PM

Renn wrote: »

Basically confirming what he's just said, wp.

No, no he isn't.

COH · 18-11-2010 07:06PM

Renn wrote: »

Basically confirming what he's just said, wp.

Its not arrogance if its fact

(Jesus said that)

eroo · 18-11-2010 07:45PM

Hanley wrote: »

But it's funny that you think my posts don't help anybody. Have a look at my post history over the last few days and compare how many people I've helped versus how many you have k?

Ugh. There's my ego again.

You're right there it is again, rearing it's ugly head. Sad really that you can't leave your ego behind you.

Also, I didn't say every single one of your posts don't help anybody.. just the ones where your ego takes over or your use of profanities take over.

An example being; some posters may find that offensive, not me personally, but some might.

F*ck you, you f*cking b*stards. I hate you all. Leave me alone.

I was on my period.

F*ck you all. Shower of c*nts

Hanley · 18-11-2010 07:49PM

COH wrote: »

Its not arrogance if its fact

(Jesus said that)

I said nothing of the sort!!!

Ugh. Crap. I did it AGAIN.

Hanley · 18-11-2010 07:53PM

An example being; some posters may find that offensive, not me personally, but some might.

"

You missed the obvious humour in that post. I actually feel sorry for you if you don't realise I was joking. Look at the people who thanked it, they're people I know in real life, and understand the back story to it.

I'm sorry if you didn't get it, but the original post was made by Kevpants as a joke, and I responded in kind. Blame him.

Hanley · 18-11-2010 07:55PM

eroo wrote: »

You're right there it is again, rearing it's ugly head. Sad really that you can't leave your ego behind you.

Also, I didn't say every single one of your posts don't help anybody.. just the ones where your ego takes over or your use of profanities take over.

You said "it doesn't help anybody". Is it unreasonable to infer from the that, that you meant I never help anyone?

What about that post contained any ego to it? It was a simple statement of fact.

COH · 18-11-2010 08:00PM

Hanley wrote: »

I said nothing of the sort!!!

You're not my son either

g'em · 18-11-2010 08:01PM

eroo with all fairness to Hanley that particular post was purely in jest - he'd had the mick taken put of him and he took it in good sport.

I think Hanley will also be the first to admit that he has a monstrously big ego, it's helped him get to where he is today and it's not a bad thing when it's used productively. But I think he's really taken on board a lot of stuff that's been said in the last few days and I've been getting a great vibe here since we started to discuss what needs to change.

I don't like singling out posters, it rarely comes to any good, and so I'd like us to dropthis now and continue with the really positive and encouraging atmosphere that's been generated by the Sticky revamp thread.

When I say "I'd like... " I do of course mean (anyone) post any more about this and yore banned

g'em · 18-11-2010 08:04PM

P.S. The only ego here bigger than Hanleys is mine and I'll freely admit that so it's not at all insult when I comment on his - it certainly isn't meant that way

eroo · 18-11-2010 08:07PM

Duly noted g'em. As I said in my last post, I have said my piece.

COH · 18-11-2010 08:08PM

g'em wrote: »

P.S. The only ego here bigger than Hanleys is mine and I'll freely admit that

As a self made man who worships his creator I strongly disagree

Hanley · 18-11-2010 08:09PM

g'em wrote: »

P.S. The only ego here bigger than Hanleys is mine and I'll freely admit that so it's not at all insult when I comment on his - it certainly isn't meant that way

FEED THE EGO.

That's all this is doing anyway. Aside from proving everything that I've said is wrong with forum.

Aaaaaaaanyway moving on, anyone going to see The Twelves tonight? Should be good!

Hanley · 18-11-2010 08:11PM

COH wrote: »

As a self made man who worships his creator I strongly disagree

This is about to descend into "my ego is bigger than your ego" and to be honest, I don't feel the need to prove my ego to anyone, and think that anyone who does musn't have that big of an ego anyway

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