Why aren't any football players 15-16 stone or more?

CorkMan · 09-11-2010 06:08AM #1

The biggest seems to be 14 and a half stone, the likes of Drogba, John Terry, all 6'2 lads. But I watch a lot of boxing and the heavyweights are like 15 and a half stone at least lately of pure muscle, up to a still fit looking 19 stone.

Is it just not suited to Football? Being that big.

daftdave · 09-11-2010 06:41AM

CorkMan wrote: »

The biggest seems to be 14 and a half stone, the likes of Drogba, John Terry, all 6'2 lads. But I watch a lot of boxing and the heavyweights are like 15 and a half stone at least lately of pure muscle, up to a still fit looking 19 stone.

Is it just not suited to Football? Being that big.

the less you weigh the more mobile you are gonna be , its pretty simple really:rolleyes:

Xavi6 · 09-11-2010 07:29AM

I accidentally just hit the 'Follow Thread' button.

Must correct that asap...

NukaCola · 09-11-2010 08:56AM

:pac:

DOC09UNAM · 09-11-2010 08:57AM

CorkMan wrote: »

just not suited to Football?

Congratulations OP, you answered your own question.

jaykay74 · 09-11-2010 09:02AM

CorkMan wrote: »

The biggest seems to be 14 and a half stone, the likes of Drogba, John Terry, all 6'2 lads. But I watch a lot of boxing and the heavyweights are like 15 and a half stone at least lately of pure muscle, up to a still fit looking 19 stone.

Is it just not suited to Football? Being that big.

Sure that might be the case in the Premier League but you drop down to your standard 3 a side game in the park and you'll find the fat kid in nets. A fat kid who blocks half the goal is worth his weight in gold (which is a lot).

Frisbee · 09-11-2010 09:05AM

CorkMan wrote: »

The biggest seems to be 14 and a half stone, the likes of Drogba, John Terry, all 6'2 lads. But I watch a lot of boxing and the heavyweights are like 15 and a half stone at least lately of pure muscle, up to a still fit looking 19 stone.

Is it just not suited to Football? Being that big.

I'd imagine weighing 16 stone and trying to chase Torres around for 90 minutes would be a bit of a toughie...

Seriously though, thread locked.

Frisbee · 09-11-2010 12:43PM

Thread re-opened for the moment

homerjay2005 · 09-11-2010 12:51PM

you obviosuly aint heard of Any Reid then....here is a pic of him and his former manager kicking about in training.

racso1975 · 09-11-2010 01:13PM

The main reason is that it is not primarily a contact sport. You look at rugby players who are at that 14-16 stone mark and are excepionally agile but they need to be that size due to the impacts of the tackles and he very physical nature of the game.

A soccer player does not need that muscle content and if they did have it not only would it possible slow them down at the start of a game but over 90 minutes their body would have a lot more work to due.

Example: sprinter big mucle content due to the explosive nature of the race, marathon runner low muscle content due to the endurance aspect of the sport and the body would require a lot more fuel to keep large muscle groups working

stovelid · 09-11-2010 01:25PM

Pies are no longer an acceptable form of half-time nourishment so that ponce Wenger came to England.

RasTa · 09-11-2010 01:31PM

racso1975 wrote: »

The main reason is that it is not primarily a contact sport. You look at rugby players who are at that 14-16 stone mark and are excepionally agile but they need to be that size due to the impacts of the tackles and he very physical nature of the game.

A soccer player does not need that muscle content and if they did have it not only would it possible slow them down at the start of a game but over 90 minutes their body would have a lot more work to due.

Example: sprinter big mucle content due to the explosive nature of the race, marathon runner low muscle content due to the endurance aspect of the sport and the body would require a lot more fuel to keep large muscle groups working

Great post on the matter. Habanna for example is 15 stone and would destroy any footballer for pace and strength

orourkeda · 09-11-2010 01:33PM

Frisbee wrote: »

I'd imagine weighing 16 stone and trying to chase Torres around for 90 minutes would be a bit of a toughie...

Just look at him crooked. He'll be taken off injured.

M5 · 09-11-2010 01:36PM

Shhhhh Sol Campbell might hear ye!

orourkeda · 09-11-2010 01:40PM

RasTa wrote: »

Great post on the matter. Habanna for example is 15 stone and would destroy any footballer for pace and strength

Something of a generalisation I suspect.

Bryan Habana isn't even 6 feet

mikemac · 09-11-2010 01:49PM

Ade Akinbiyi was critized a few years ago by his manager. Spending a lot of time in the weight room bulking up which affected his pace.

. "I wasn’t playing at Sheffield so the only thing I was doing was weights. We didn’t even have reserve games and it was something to do. I put on a bit too much muscle and I lost about a yard of pace", he said. "I try to stay away from the weights room now. I’m sort of addicted."

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Leiva · 09-11-2010 01:58PM

...... Because this fella ate them all

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RasTa · 09-11-2010 02:05PM

orourkeda wrote: »

Something of a generalisation I suspect.

Bryan Habana isn't even 6 feet

He is 5ft 11 so not far off and no it's not a generalisation.

stovelid · 09-11-2010 02:10PM

mixednuts wrote: »

...... Because this fella ate them all

Jan. :pac:

That_Guy · 09-11-2010 02:15PM

What an odd thread.

mikemac · 09-11-2010 02:22PM

Pretty typical thread for this OP

Mrmoe · 09-11-2010 02:24PM

The main difference is in upperbody strength which isn't necessarily as important in soccer. A better comparison would be comparing rugby backs and footballers.

DOC09UNAM · 09-11-2010 02:27PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Pretty typical thread for this OP

A stimulating one that requires mountains of Thought?

The Rooster · 09-11-2010 02:29PM

That_Guy wrote: »

What an odd thread.

Well I suppose it might be interesting to debate why there's nobody like - for example - Jamie Heaslip playing soccer. He's 6'3", and 17 stone, mobile and pacy (and of course strong as a horse).

Likewise you could pick out the likes of Dara O'Se and Ciaran Whelan from GAA who'd be touching 16 stone, and wouldnt have suffered from lack of mobility or pace.

I wonder what weight are the biggest guys in the Premiership? Kyrgiakos is a big lump at Liverpool at 6'3", but according to the offical website he's only 14 stone (though perhaps he lied!).

Handsome Bob · 09-11-2010 02:40PM

mixednuts wrote: »

...... Because this fella ate them all

Ah big Jan, sure isn't he a great man altogether.

JPA · 09-11-2010 02:42PM

Richard Dunne is 15 and a half.

Raekwon · 09-11-2010 02:55PM

1 Neil Ruddock
Transfer-listed by Swindon after arriving back at the club overweight. At one stage, Razor even had to have his shorts specially made. For that fact alone, he takes the No.1 spot.

2 Fatty Foulkes
The nickname gives it away. Another goalie, he makes Neville Southall look slim by comparison. Apparently, the ‘Who ate all the pies?’ chant was created for Foulkes, so we owe him one.

3 Jan Molby
Famously never left the centre circle during a match.

4 Mick Quinn
‘He’s fat, he’s round, he’s worth a million pounds, Micky Quinn, Micky Quinn"

5 Neville Southall
Goalies can get away with a few extra layers, as Big Nev scaled a whopping 18 stone before he retired.

6 Paul Gascoigne
Gazza only looked slim standing beside his long time drinking pal Jimmy 'Five Bellies' Gardner

7 Ferenc Puskas
For a ‘fat little chap’ from Hungary, he could certainly play a bit.

8 John Barnes
No matter how much thirst-quenching Isotonic he drank, Barnesy was one of those players who required ‘very big shorts’ in the latter stages of his playing career.

9 Diego Maradona
Always a stocky little fella, but really let himself go after he retired. Had stomach surgery in 2005 to curb his overeating.

10 Thomas Brolin
A case of puppy fat turned to real fat.

Bodhisopha · 09-11-2010 03:01PM

CorkMan wrote: »

The biggest seems to be 14 and a half stone, the likes of Drogba, John Terry, all 6'2 lads. But I watch a lot of boxing and the heavyweights are like 15 and a half stone at least lately of pure muscle, up to a still fit looking 19 stone.

Is it just not suited to Football? Being that big.

No you don't.

razorblunt · 09-11-2010 03:17PM

I know these aren't top class examples but what would the likes of Harewood and Heskey weigh?

The right back for Wolves is built like a house as well!

racso1975 · 09-11-2010 03:30PM

Harewood 13.5st

Heskey 13.2

Jelle

van dame 13.1

John carew is 14.2 but i reckon thats due to the size of his head

applehunter · 09-11-2010 03:57PM

Anyone watching MNS last night would have heard Monaghan United's striker Philly Hughes being described as portly.

He must be 14/15 stone.

Still a good footballer and banging in the goals to boot.

Why aren't any football players 15-16 stone or more?

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