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Wearing of the Poppy! Should Irish citizens wear it?

  • 08-11-2010 12:14PM
    #1
    gent9662
    Closed Accounts Posts: 697 ✭✭✭


    After watching the x-factor over the weekend I saw that the Irish contestants were all wearing the red poppy. I don't personally see why not, given the vast number of Irish men who died in world war one, but there may be some people who will think differently.

    Should they 365 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    28% 104 votes
    Meh, whatever like
    71% 261 votes


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  • #2
    MrMatisse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭MrMatisse


    Oh Jesus not again.....


  • #3
    Aldebaran
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Aldebaran


    Oh no, not again! I still have nightmares about last years thread, it just wouldn't die!


  • #4
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes, we are essentially British and should be grateful for all they have done for us.


  • #5
    gent9662
    Closed Accounts Posts: 697 ✭✭✭gent9662


    Sorry folks!


  • #6
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    The X Factor and a poppy thread - Christmas is on its way! :pac:


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  • #7
    MrMatisse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭MrMatisse


    I will now summarize the rest of this thread for those who have started reading it here.


    Yup ya boya, go Celtic

    Sorry old boy but what did you say? Irelands a republic? Are you sure

    Gerry, martin, gerry, martin

    **** rangers

    so on so forth.......


  • #8
    wolfpawnat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    dclane wrote: »
    After watching the x-factor over the weekend I saw that the Irish contestants were all wearing the red poppy. I don't personally see why not, given the vast number of Irish men who died in world war one, but there may be some people who will think differently.

    The poppy is also associated with the men who died while in Ireland fighting the Irish. That is why people have a problem with it. Xfactor contestants are told they have to wear them.

    The young fella Eoghan Quigg revealed after the show that he was told wear it or leave. I myself would shove it clean up Cowells behind!

    And if people are complaining about this thread, why are ye after joining it!?!?!:confused:


  • #9
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    People can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't do anyone any harm.

    That applies to wearing a poppy, but not so for appearing on the X-Factor. :p


  • #10
    baldbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭baldbear


    Big Mary wasn't wearing one i think??.
    It's a fashion accessory on British tv that people put on without thinking .
    Personally i'd wear the Nazi symbol for all those brave SS troops who died.


  • #11
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Well we all live on the British Isles don't we? So why not.


    /runs for cover


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  • #12
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Every bloody year this...

    Look, respect our war dead however you see fit and let others do the same and don't trash one another for whatever form you choose.

    The end.


  • #13
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    not this can of worms again

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  • #14
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,365 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Abortions for some, poppys for others!


  • #15
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    GOD WINS!


  • #16
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,217 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It felt like we needed a poll...


  • #17
    Rebelheart
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    dclane wrote: »
    After watching the x-factor over the weekend I saw that the Irish contestants were all wearing the red poppy.

    Yeah, it's called poppy fascism and they now have no choice but to wear these symbols of British nationalist warmongering when on British TV (Dara Ó Bríain said as much in his interview on RTÉ Radio 1 a couple of months ago). And I suppose if some Paddy joined the British Army to partake in the suppression of indigenous populations (that includes the Irish, by the way) then all this British colonial warmongering suddenly becomes a good thing worthy of being commemorated by Irish people?

    Jesus wept.


  • #18
    Rebelheart
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes, we are essentially British and should be grateful for all they have done for us.
    marco_polo wrote: »
    Well we all live on the British Isles don't we? So why not.

    This is why I love the poppy brigade; they can neatly encapsulate centuries of British imperialism in Ireland in one single solitary symbol of British jingoism and warmongering. Thank you for your honesty.


  • #19
    punchdrunk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    Tongue in cheek is hard.


  • #20
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    This is why I love the poppy brigade; they can neatly encapsulate centuries of British imperialism in Ireland in one single solitary symbol of British jingoism and warmongering. Thank you for your honesty.

    I can see that one went right over your head.


  • #21
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    biko wrote: »
    It felt like we needed a poll...

    Can we make opium from these poppies? I have Joe Duffy on speed dial..


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  • #22
    wolfpawnat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    This is why I love the poppy brigade; they can neatly encapsulate centuries of British imperialism in Ireland in one single solitary symbol of British jingoism and warmongering. Thank you for your honesty.

    It terrifies me what children are being taught in school if this is how they see the world!!!

    They are the Islands of Great Britain AND Ireland. Not all one and the same!!!!!

    We are not "essentially British" we have been have different for centuries. We are similar. Tigers and lions are similar, but you wouldn't call them the same!


  • #23
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    Tongue in cheek is hard.

    Are you sure that's a tongue in your cheek?
    :eek:


  • #24
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    Every bloody year this...

    Look, respect our war dead however you see fit and let others do the same and don't trash one another for whatever form you choose.

    The end.

    Amen to that. /thread.
    wolfpawnat wrote: »
    It terrifies me what children are being thought in school if this is how they see the world!!!

    They are the Islands of Great Britain AND Ireland. Not all one and the same!!!!!

    We are not "essentially British" we have been have different for centuries. We are similar. Tigers and lions are similar, but you wouldn't call them the same!

    Hopefully they are being taught properly.


  • #25
    Notorious97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Notorious97


    I don’t agree with it at all. It is a personal choice of course, i just think its not something Irish people should do. I will await the flurry of ‘my relatives died fighting for Britain in WW1’ to which i can reply well they were nothing but traitors. I myself have had two great grandfathers fight in this war and this is how i view them. I think the fact it is forced upon you if you are in the UK on TV for example is ridiculous. Of course people should be able to refuse wearing it, there is nothing that could make me wear one if it was requested, the x factor should be ashamed if it is forcing them to wear it.

    It is a symbol of oppression to many, Irish people fighting a foreign powers wars both in Ireland and abroad.


  • #26
    jimthemental
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    Poppies for Somme, miniature tricolour flags for others.;)


  • #27
    alandublin15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 169 ✭✭alandublin15


    i vill not tell you again.
    ve have vays of making you vear our national social symbol.

    anyway, already solved this - if in the uk you steal one, everyones happy.


  • #28
    getz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Yeah, it's called poppy fascism and they now have no choice but to wear these symbols of British nationalist warmongering when on British TV (Dara Ó Bríain said as much in his interview on RTÉ Radio 1 a couple of months ago). And I suppose if some Paddy joined the British Army to partake in the suppression of indigenous populations (that includes the Irish, by the way) then all this British colonial warmongering suddenly becomes a good thing worthy of being commemorated by Irish people?

    Jesus wept.
    when in rome,even the german ambassador had one on this week,its called respect, try it,you may make friends


  • #29
    wolfpawnat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Hopefully they are being taught properly.

    I am a diagnosed dyslexic, what's their excuse!


  • #30
    scientific1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    Id consider myself a nationalist but I dont see why not considering the thousands of brave Irishmen who died.


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  • #31
    wolfpawnat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    How about we get a white poppy for our dead, and not associate with Britland (and before Fratton Fred attacks me for it, it is a joke of Britain and England!)


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