Let's hope there are a few people on the plane now! Have a nice long training session tomorrow, so will shoot a sixty-shot match as a benchmark score to work from. Won't get to the 50m range this week though methinks, sadly.

dCorbus wrote: »

Question: Is this required for any and all competitions out of Ireland? e.g. IoM, Bisley, etc. - or just for some of them?

Also, what are the minimum qualifying scores mentioned in Joe's notice?

Thanks,

dC

No. It's required for any competition for which the NTSA has to sponsor you to go, such as a World Cup, European Championships or a World Championships. It's not required for anything you can attend off your own bat, such as the IoM Easter Shoot, ISCH Hannover or anything else. Moreover, these shoots are brilliant developmental platforms, and should form part of your own training schedule.

Minimum qualifying scores are based on previous competitions. It's the average of the score required to place in the top two thirds of the elimination round for each of the last three times the competition has been run. Since a world cup in Munich typically has two elimination rounds, that means the average of six results. However, it means inside the top two thirds, not at the mark itself, so let's say the two-thirds cut off shooter is number 46, and the score is 588, but the four shooters above him also have 588 and two shooters below him also have 588, that would mean that to qualify, you needed a 589 to be secure, so it's the average over the last three years of the competition. I was trying to check it myself and could only find results for 2008 and 2009, the result being 589.25, so I'd expect it'll be either 589 or 590. It's a solid cut-off score to ensure you're serious enough about it. The idea is that you get through the elimination and, as a minimum, get two matches worth of experience abroad. It's a good system. Personally I'd like to see a second tier, for shooters putting in an Olympic MQS, who can travel without funding, on the basis that having shooters put in an MQS abroad widens the pool of people who are entitled to shoot in the Olympics should we be awarded a wild-card or win quota places, but until we see the scores published and any additional details, it won't be possible to see the full picture of how it'll be run. Looking forward to it anyway, going to be an interesting few months.

Sparks wrote: »

Yeah, but yours is at least sound - mine is now nine years old, and it's seen it's fair share of wear and tear in that time and then some. I was planning on getting a new one earlier in the year anyway, and I only held off because of the ISSF's fecking about over composite materials.

Aye, it's not much of a jacket anymore alright. Decided on a replacement yet? Presumably you'd be having new trousers made too?

In short, and to avoid wandering through more of the process than is necessary, expect the prone qualifying score to be somewhere between 589 and 591. The Olympic MQS is 587, and I would hope that someone on that score would be offered a chance to go and to shoot the MQS over there, as it would be good for the sport as a whole to get more people exposed and experienced.

Sparks wrote: »

Yes and yes. Thrashed it out in here, in fact, a while back:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055753854

Wasn't sure you were sticking with the Kustermann Fusion after the ISSF fluffy shíte that was going on. It looks a very good jacket, would say you'll do well with it. Have to say though, my Thune Adventure is still a hell of a jacket for the price. Hard to go wrong with any from Sauer, AHG, Thune or Kustermann it seems.

dCorbus wrote: »

Thanks,

Ahhhh, I see.....(I think).......so you can still go to the "MQS" shoots (for lack of a better term) and other shoots, off your own bat, in the meantime to get practice and higher-level competition time in, but as an Individual but not representing Ireland?

Not as I understand it. It's still a world cup and still requires the NGB's involvement, but it's a lower entry cost and there are no prizes available. The only thing you can do is post the MQS and you don't get an elimination match and a qualification match, so the exposure is less. Not a huge amount of point, basically. If you're going, you might as well go in the full match, get the extra shoot out of it (hopefully) and post the MQS there anyway, as it'll still count.

MiGiD wrote: »

having had enough badgering from IWM, I have finally expressed an interest in doing the Women's 50m Prone at the European Championships.

Now all I need:
-a legal jacket
-time to train
-a coach
-core training
-to learn to shoot outdoors (I have only shot outdoors three times)
-to learn to shoot in general
etc... etc...

ugh

Excellent. The goal is half the battle. The rest is sorted handily enough then.

Bananaman wrote: »

well done

outdoor shooting is the same as indoor shooting except the lights go off on their own. ;-)

B'Man

And up and down and round about, and there are those pesky breezes, too.