What TV Network is Better? - RTE OR BBC?

Pherekydes · 16-10-2010 06:37PM

Lapin wrote: »

And as a previous poster said, RTE's sports coverage is much better.
At least RTE still treat the sports viewer with a degree of intellegence.

No it's not and no they don't. RTE paid for the 2009 World Athletics Championships and then didn't bother showing them. Their sports coverage is all about the lowest common denominator. They covered the World Swimming Championships this year the week AFTER they were over, and then they only showed races that had Irish competitors. How ****ing bizarre. Why don't they apply this reasoning to the soccer world cup? It'd save a lot of money and broadcast time. And a lot of their so-called homegrown shows are straight copies of what the Beeb do.

dr.bollocko · 16-10-2010 06:40PM

Moved from After Hours.

Napper Hawkins · 16-10-2010 06:41PM

The BBC is far superior to RTE and their budgets have absolutely fuk all to do with it, quality over quantity as someone else mentioned.

It's also not pro-Brit/anti-Irish to say so either.

And for those saying RTE's sports coverage is better......maybe it is.
But what about those of us who couldn't give a toss about sports?

If that's their only strong point then they have absolutely nothing to offer the rest of us.

Oh, apart from ad breaks and breaking away to the news in the middle of a film maybe.

Minstrel27 · 16-10-2010 06:58PM

senordingdong wrote: »

It's nothing to do with the budget...it should be about quality over quantity.
RTE churns out planks like Pat Kenny and Ryan Tubridy.
And the quality of their journalism is cringe worthy.

I remember listening to live RTE report and counted the word 'eh' being used 43 times. What sort of journalist says 'eh'?

I am going to file your post as talking out of your arse.

Minstrel27 · 16-10-2010 07:03PM

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

Oh, apart from ad breaks and breaking away to the news in the middle of a film maybe.

You probably wont believe me when I tell you that the BBC have broken films for the news too.

senordingdong · 16-10-2010 07:08PM

<Ollie> wrote: »

Chums like Pat Kenny and Ryan Tubridy? So why did the BBC want Tubridy to present Jonathan Ross's Saturday morning radio show then? Pat Kenny is also a brilliant political broadcaster. The BBC also made numerous big money offers to Gay Byrne over the years to poach him from RTE.

Chums??
I said 'churns'.

These presenters were likely approached because they have large followings.
If they were to go to the BBC, the hope would be that they would take their audiences with them.
This is not a reflection on the quality of their presenting.

Minstrel27 wrote:

I am going to file your post as talking out of your arse.

Well don't give an explanation whatever you.

Minstrel27 · 16-10-2010 07:10PM

senordingdong wrote: »

If they were to go to the BBC, the hope would be that they would take their audiences with them.
This is not a reflection on the quality of their presenting.

Why would the BBC care about an Irish audience for any of their channels, especially radio? BBC radio is hardly widespread in this country anyway.

senordingdong · 16-10-2010 07:12PM

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Why would the BBC care about an Irish audience for any of their channels, especially radio? BBC radio is hardly widespread in this country anyway.

Because all of their stations are recieved over here....

Minstrel27 · 16-10-2010 07:14PM

senordingdong wrote: »

Because all of their stations are recieved over here....

That doesn't answer the question at all. BBC receive no advertising money so why would they care about Irish listeners? We do not pay them.

I can receive their radio stations via satellite. Not much use to anyone who listens to the radio in the car, ie. most people.

Our man in Havana · 16-10-2010 07:22PM

Moved to correct forum.

Napper Hawkins · 17-10-2010 03:34AM

Minstrel27 wrote: »

You probably wont believe me when I tell you that the BBC have broken films for the news too.

I believe you, but RTE were sods for it more so than the rest I reckon.

Minstrel27 · 17-10-2010 11:18AM

ITV are the worst offenders.

STB · 17-10-2010 12:44PM

It has everything to do with budget.

RTE TV licence income is apx €200m.

BBC TV licence income alone is apx €4000 million.

BBC also receive €336 million from government grants, and about €915 million from BBC Commercial Businesses.

They have sheds loads of money. They CAN and DO pay what they want for presenters, the type salaries that RTE could never compete with ! Their programming is high quality but it should be given the wads of cash they have to play with.

As said earlier its an unfair comparison. RTE's job is to provide a service that reflects the culture of Ireland of 5m. The BBC have to serve 66m people.

Oh and by the way, regardless of which is better, the viewing figures in Ireland make more interesting reading.

Channel/Share of total viewing (%)
1 RTÉ One 25.79
2 TV3 Ireland 12.30
3 RTÉ Two 9.65
4 BBC One NI 5.29
5 UTV 4.53
6 Channel 4 3.74
7 BBC Two 3.06
8 TG4 2.67
9 Sky1 1.92
10 E4 1.19

Source AGP Nielsen 2009.

invaderjim · 17-10-2010 01:00PM

Can't compare the two. RTE can only dream of producing such programmes like the David Attenborough BBC documentaries (Life, planet earth, life among the undergrowth, I could go on) which are some of the best programmes ever made by any tv station.

MACHEAD · 17-10-2010 04:28PM

Agricola wrote: »

Wheres the option for TV3?

Or even 3e! Who so lovingly provide that little square picture in the centre of the screen, for all those dewey eyed lovers of nostalgia. Joking aside though, for the minuscule budget they have to work with RTÉ provide quite a good service on both radio and television. Their news and current affairs coverage are as good as anything the others produce. Granted they may not have the slick hi tech presentation of some of them, but thats a monetary issue not creative or editorial.

Mike 1972 · 18-10-2010 03:39PM

invaderjim wrote: »

Can't compare the two. RTE can only dream of producing such programmes like ......

RTE might not be able to produce such programming but they could still show them. While some might argue that given the high level of BBC penetration in Ireland theres little point rehashing programmes currently/recently shown on the Beeb there are other sources for such programming. e.g. the better offerings from PBS.

RTE often use the terms "public service" and "home produced" programming as if they are one and the same thing which is patently nonsense.

Of course domestic productions are important (and to be fair to RTE the standard of the documentaries they do produce have improved somewhat in recent years) but the emphisis should be on quality over quantity.

One downside of the move to digital TV is that if it leads to more RTE channels being set up the programming budget could be spread even thinner than it is now.

byte · 18-10-2010 09:41PM

invaderjim wrote: »

Can't compare the two. RTE can only dream of producing such programmes like the David Attenborough BBC documentaries (Life, planet earth, life among the undergrowth, I could go on) which are some of the best programmes ever made by any tv station.

For the likes of Life and Planet Earth, I'm pretty sure Discovery channel had a big part to play too.

Minstrel27 · 18-10-2010 10:09PM

They did. They co-produced them.

watty · 18-10-2010 10:38PM

However this thread is only exceeded in pointlessness in this forum by threads about (not paying) The Tv Licence!

Mike 1972 · 19-10-2010 12:43PM

watty wrote: »

However this thread is only exceeded in pointlessness in this forum by threads about (not paying) The Tv Licence!

So if you consider such threads to be so "pointless" why do you not only choose to read them but bump them back up to the top of the board by contributing to commenting on them

Its not as if boards.ie force you to financially contribute to their hosting of "pointless" threads

So all in all commenting on the "pointlessness" of the odd thread in an otherwise interesting forum does seem rather ....well pointless !

Elmo · 19-10-2010 11:20PM

Not a great poll really. You really cannot compare RTÉ and the BBC.

senordingdong · 20-10-2010 08:25AM

Elmo wrote: »

Not a great poll really. You really can compare RTÉ and the BBC.

Ah it's ok.
You seem to think so yourself.

Elmo · 20-10-2010 10:53AM

senordingdong wrote: »

Ah it's ok.
You seem to think so yourself.

???? I voted and made a comment. You can't compare RTÉ to the BBC because of a number of fact not least the amount of money the BBC receive from the UK licence fee and the amount of commercial money that is received by the BBC.

byte · 20-10-2010 09:23PM

See your previous post, and spelling therein - I think that's what senordingdong spotted

joolsthedog · 29-10-2010 05:14PM

RobitTV wrote: »

What TV Network is better?
RTE Or BBC?

Vote in the Poll aswell

This a pretty dumb poll, BBC has better quality programming, better resourcing & no advertising interuptions. The best RTE has to offer is Pat Kenny or Ryan Tubridy - the only exceptions are Miriam O'Callaghan and Marian Finnucane who have more than 2 neurones sparking at the same time

mikom · 29-10-2010 05:19PM

The BBC provide a better service for Irish viewers than RTE, and they don't even try to cater to us but succeed all the same.
What does that tell you.

Elmo · 29-10-2010 06:06PM

mikom wrote: »

The BBC provide a better service for Irish viewers than RTE, and they don't even try to cater to us but succeed all the same.
What does that tell you.

How do you work this one out?

STB · 29-10-2010 06:30PM

mikom wrote: »

The BBC provide a better service for Irish viewers than RTE, and they don't even try to cater to us but succeed all the same.
What does that tell you.

Hopefully James Connolly hasnt logged onto to the site from beyond the grave. If you have James I am truly sorry.

mikom · 29-10-2010 07:16PM

STB wrote: »

Hopefully James Connolly hasnt logged onto to the site from beyond the grave. If you have James I am truly sorry.

James Connolly is too busy answering the coffin lid to Tv licence inspectors to log on.
After all........... funds must be collected to allow Tubridy hawk his book around.

Minstrel27 · 29-10-2010 08:13PM

Elmo wrote: »

How do you work this one out?

Do you not think that the BBC news bulletins are good for Irish news? Perhaps mikom can tell us how the BBC are better at that.

What TV Network is Better? - RTE OR BBC?

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