Engagement Ring in NYC

Theboinkmaster · 28-10-2010 05:17PM

magneticimpulse wrote: »

to the guy who made a saving €5k....:eek: are you pat kenny or something? i be motified if my bloke was going around telling everyone he "saved" money on my engagement ring. id rather a 20 quid claddagh ring at that rate.

i think €1k is definitely maximum for an engagement ring. it doesnt matter how much it costs...what matters is that your engaged and in love.

also when i say they might not have rings. i do actually like claddagh rings and celtic jewellery and hence you wouldnt be able to get that in NYC or belgium. :mad:

No I'm not pat kenny WTF?! :eek:

I'm not going around telling anyone how much i saved, I'm only stating it here to demonstrate to the OP what the price difference are. Fact is if i were to re-buy the ring i bought in NY here on grafton St it would be €5k more. Surely that's relevant information, especially given the times we're in.

And €1k maximum for a ring!? there is no maximum or minimum it completely depends on each couple. Someone earning €250k a year could spend €30k on a ring and best of luck to them, it's their money what business is it of yours?
Conversely you wouldn't look down on someone who spent €100 on a ring would you, it's really quite arrogant to suggest what someone should be spending on a ring when you don't know them.

toby2111 · 28-10-2010 05:25PM

magneticimpulse-You're right,it is a lot of money to spend on a ring.I'd sooner go an an even better,cooler honeymoon but thats me!My girlfriend could quite easily pick out a ring thats not 3 or 4k but much less.At the end of the day,once she's happy.....and my credit card is not mangled!!!

toby2111 · 28-10-2010 05:30PM

boink-I'll do what you say,the Tiffany experience will be good for us to gauge what she wants/likes.Hopefully it'll all work out.Gotta get a cheap ring/costume jewelery to propose with now!!

magneticimpulse · 28-10-2010 06:11PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

No I'm not pat kenny WTF?! :eek:

I'm not going around telling anyone how much i saved, I'm only stating it here to demonstrate to the OP what the price difference are. Fact is if i were to re-buy the ring i bought in NY here on grafton St it would be €5k more. Surely that's relevant information, especially given the times we're in.

And €1k maximum for a ring!? there is no maximum or minimum it completely depends on each couple. Someone earning €250k a year could spend €30k on a ring and best of luck to them, it's their money what business is it of yours?
Conversely you wouldn't look down on someone who spent €100 on a ring would you, it's really quite arrogant to suggest what someone should be spending on a ring when you don't know them.

it is relevent. personally i would far prefer a ring which cost €100.

it is relevent, because for insurance purposes on the house contents etc or whatever insurance you get for it...the price of insurance will depend on the price of the ring.

you seem to be pushing figures around and putting pressure on OP....as a woman myself, i would never wear a ring that cost more then €1000 on my finger unless your a celebrity and have body guards around you 24/7. I wouldnt carry 1000 quid cash in my pocket or any more for that matter so why would you want to do sport, go to work etc with 5000 dollars stuck on your hand which someone could easily grab off you.

OP's gf doesnt seem fussy. in all fairness to your advice, maybe your gf expected 5000 dollar ring, but it doesnt seem like OP's gf even wants a ring in that price bracket so no point putting him under that pressure or that impression that he has to spend that much. its a recession you know!!

magneticimpulse · 28-10-2010 07:02PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

I'm not suggesting you buy it in Tiffanys - but use them to dertermine what style you'd like.

They cater for all budgets and are not snobby at all. Trust me - bring her into Tiffany just for the experience and to use their expertise and look at the styles.

Then take note of your favourites and head down to diamond district. So say for $4k you'd get a 0.4c in Tiffany - you'd probably get 0.7 or 0.8c in diamond district.

well tiffany's, they dont really cater for all budgets...$9000 for their basic engagement ring is still mad amount of money for what at the end of the day is just a ring.

personally i think its all crazy. sure you could save money, but is a girl really going to have a hissy fit if you dont spend 4000 on a ring and if she does have a hissy fit is she really mature enough to get married to???

basically whats important is that a couple is engaged, not how much the ring costs and if someone has to go to great lengths to get a diamond???

Theboinkmaster · 28-10-2010 08:14PM

magneticimpulse wrote: »

it is relevent. personally i would far prefer a ring which cost €100.

it is relevent, because for insurance purposes on the house contents etc or whatever insurance you get for it...the price of insurance will depend on the price of the ring.

you seem to be pushing figures around and putting pressure on OP....as a woman myself, i would never wear a ring that cost more then €1000 on my finger unless your a celebrity and have body guards around you 24/7. I wouldnt carry 1000 quid cash in my pocket or any more for that matter so why would you want to do sport, go to work etc with 5000 dollars stuck on your hand which someone could easily grab off you.

OP's gf doesnt seem fussy. in all fairness to your advice, maybe your gf expected 5000 dollar ring, but it doesnt seem like OP's gf even wants a ring in that price bracket so no point putting him under that pressure or that impression that he has to spend that much. its a recession you know!!

woah woah are you reading my posts correctly?

You're talking about what YOU'd prefer - but everyone had different tastes and money. I am not pushing figures around I'm using figures to illustrate the savings which can be made. I think the OPs budget is $4k and he'll get an amazing ring for that, as you would if he spend $500 or $30k.

And don't talk about my GF expecting anything. I spent what i spent because i had the cash and could afford it. She would have been happy with a $5 ring and im lucky enough to be able to spoil her if i wish.

The OP mentioned $6k and the other poster said his budget was about $4k but his budget really is irrelevant. My posts are about the best way of buying in NY and getting the best value for money.

I mentioned some illustrative figures and you went off on a complete tangent and sound like you have a huge chip on your shoulder. Let the OP spend what he likes and can comfortably afford - we cannot offer advice in that regard.

Re-read my posts.

Theboinkmaster · 28-10-2010 08:16PM

magneticimpulse wrote: »

well tiffany's, they dont really cater for all budgets...$9000 for their basic engagement ring is still mad amount of money for what at the end of the day is just a ring.

personally i think its all crazy. sure you could save money, but is a girl really going to have a hissy fit if you dont spend 4000 on a ring and if she does have a hissy fit is she really mature enough to get married to???

basically whats important is that a couple is engaged, not how much the ring costs and if someone has to go to great lengths to get a diamond???

you're talking pure sh!te have you even been to Tiffany? I was in Tiffany NY only 6 weeks ago and they have platinum diamond engagement rings starting from $2,500.

what are you talking about hissy fits for who even suggested anyone would have one, are you even posting on the correct thread?!

Theboinkmaster · 28-10-2010 08:24PM

toby2111 wrote: »

boink-I'll do what you say,the Tiffany experience will be good for us to gauge what she wants/likes.Hopefully it'll all work out.Gotta get a cheap ring/costume jewelery to propose with now!!

Don't let anyone tell you what to spend - I'm sure you'll GF will love whatever ring you buy, it's the sentiment and fact you're engaged etc that's important.

I would personally recommend the Tiffany exeperience (not buying there though just browse and try on) and their sales associates are excellent in judging you're girlfriends tastes and narrowing down their selection to what she likes. Just make sure to give them your budget so they're not showing her diamonds for 2ct which you can never afford!

I thought about the costume ring thing but this is what i did - i went into Tiffany in BT Dublin and got their blue book catelogue. Then i wrapped this up and gave it to GF as i proposed. When she opened it i was on one knee etc and explained we had a 10am appointment the next morning.....

That was just my thing though and to be honest it really doesn't matter how you do it! she will love it and say yes, just enjoy the experience and shopping for ring together.

Also the fact that we went to hanikens and bought there and not in Tiffany didnt bother us at all, as the rings were just as good but the price/size difference of about 30% was too massive to ignore. But when comparing remember all Tiffany diamonds are graded as "excellent" so when in hanikens ask to only see "excellent" cut GIA graded diamonds, otherwise you won't be comparing like with like.

Best of luck dude!

magneticimpulse · 28-10-2010 08:26PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

you're talking pure sh!te have you even been to Tiffany? I was in Tiffany NY only 6 weeks ago and they have platinum diamond engagement rings starting from $2,500.

what are you talking about hissy fits for who even suggested anyone would have one, are you even posting on the correct thread?!

haha if you re read my posts you would see i specifically said I BOUGHT MY OWN TIFFANY DIAMOND ring, so I know what im talking about.

Theres a thing called a website...a tiffany website and if you go on there the cheapest engagement ring starts at $9000.Sure they sell Diamond rings but they start at $700, but they are not engagement rings...i know because IVE A TIFFANY 6 stone DIAMOND RING...and im telling you that my own experience, i think its not what its all cracked up to be.

The OP has not proposed yet, and so how is he meant to know how much to spend. Im giving him a womans perspective.

Think logically, would you go around with 1000 quid in your pocket in cash?? Maybe you do, which by all means great for you. But not all of us can afford that. And the Pat Kenny reference, meant that the only people in Ireland on good salaries in Ireland are the likes of RTE employee's on 400,000 to 600,000K a year.

With the budget on December 7th, i doubt very many people will be able to afford that kind of money.

If so, where can i find this rich men with wad loads of cash?? With preference to older ones?

magneticimpulse · 28-10-2010 08:31PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Don't let anyone tell you what to spend - I'm sure you'll GF will love whatever ring you buy, it's the sentiment and fact you're engaged etc that's important.

I would personally recommend the Tiffany exeperience (not buying there though just browse and try on) and their sales associates are excellent in judging you're girlfriends tastes and narrowing down their selection to what she likes. Just make sure to give them your budget so they're not showing her diamonds for 2ct which you can never afford!

I thought about the costume ring thing but this is what i did - i went into Tiffany in BT Dublin and got their blue book catelogue. Then i wrapped this up and gave it to GF as i proposed. When she opened it i was on one knee etc and explained we had a 10am appointment the next morning.....

That was just my thing though and to be honest it really doesn't matter how you do it! she will love it and say yes, just enjoy the experience and shopping for ring together.

Also the fact that we went to hanikens and bought there and not in Tiffany didnt bother us at all, as the rings were just as good but the price/size difference of about 30% was too massive to ignore. But when comparing remember all Tiffany diamonds are graded as "excellent" so when in hanikens ask to only see "excellent" cut GIA graded diamonds, otherwise you won't be comparing like with like.

Best of luck dude!

think id prefer the Costume jellewery to be honest then a catalogue...here have the Argos catalogue!!! not very romantic at all.

Toto Wolfcastle · 28-10-2010 08:36PM

I think the brochure idea is cute. I know a lot of people who would attach a lot of value to the ring that is used during the proposal and who wouldn't want one to be used if it wasn't the 'real thing'. The brochure is different, and in fairness, I think a Tiffany's brochure is different to an Argos catalogue. (And this is coming from someone who would never want anything from Tiffany's.)

magneticimpulse · 28-10-2010 08:43PM

janeybabe wrote: »

I think the brochure idea is cute. I know a lot of people who would attach a lot of value to the ring that is used during the proposal and who wouldn't want one to be used if it wasn't the 'real thing'. The brochure is different, and in fairness, I think a Tiffany's brochure is different to an Argos catalogue. (And this is coming from someone who would never want anything from Tiffany's.)

You can pick up engagement rings on Amazon for 20 quid to at least propose with. The brochure idea is really naff. Id rather a barn brack ring then a brochure. Seriously if your going to get down on 1 knee at least have a ring...not a brochure. Thats just very cringe. Imagine telling all your friends he proposed with a catalogue??

Theboinkmaster · 28-10-2010 09:14PM

magneticimpulse wrote: »

haha if you re read my posts you would see i specifically said I BOUGHT MY OWN TIFFANY DIAMOND ring, so I know what im talking about.

Theres a thing called a website...a tiffany website and if you go on there the cheapest engagement ring starts at $9000.Sure they sell Diamond rings but they start at $700, but they are not engagement rings...i know because IVE A TIFFANY 6 stone DIAMOND RING...and im telling you that my own experience, i think its not what its all cracked up to be.

The OP has not proposed yet, and so how is he meant to know how much to spend. Im giving him a womans perspective.

Think logically, would you go around with 1000 quid in your pocket in cash?? Maybe you do, which by all means great for you. But not all of us can afford that. And the Pat Kenny reference, meant that the only people in Ireland on good salaries in Ireland are the likes of RTE employee's on 400,000 to 600,000K a year.

With the budget on December 7th, i doubt very many people will be able to afford that kind of money.

If so, where can i find this rich men with wad loads of cash?? With preference to older ones?

Listen you're talking nonsense i was only there 6 weeks ago - sure here's one for $1,520:

http://www.tiffany.com/Engagement/item.aspx?GroupSku=GRP10001&selectedSku=23932474#f+0/0/0/0/0/0

Anyway i don't think the OP is actually going to buy there - just try on.

Theboinkmaster · 28-10-2010 09:16PM

magneticimpulse wrote: »

You can pick up engagement rings on Amazon for 20 quid to at least propose with. The brochure idea is really naff. Id rather a barn brack ring then a brochure. Seriously if your going to get down on 1 knee at least have a ring...not a brochure. Thats just very cringe. Imagine telling all your friends he proposed with a catalogue??

I give up :cool:

magneticimpulse · 28-10-2010 09:17PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Listen you're talking nonsense i was only there 6 weeks ago - sure here's one for $1,520:

http://www.tiffany.com/Engagement/item.aspx?GroupSku=GRP10001&selectedSku=23932474#f+0/0/0/0/0/0

Anyway i don't think the OP is actually going to buy there - just try on.

Sure sure your telling me i didnt buy a Tiffany Diamond ring. Look i know what im talking about, its a ring...sure it was great buying it in Tiffany's...3 years later...i look at it and think...god could have flow to Australia 1st class for the price of that ring (oh wait i did do that). Anyhow you get the picture...at the end of a day its just a ring, it aint going to make anybody happy.

Look you might find it hard to believe that a woman can go into Tiffany's by herself and by a diamond ring by herself! But I did and im saying i had trouble getting it insured in Ireland etc (not that i live there, I actually love on a vineyard in France)...but I just checked it out as I was being curious. IMO its a waste of money. You be better off spending it on a nice holiday.

Theboinkmaster · 28-10-2010 09:29PM

magneticimpulse wrote: »

Sure sure your telling me i didnt buy a Tiffany Diamond ring. Look i know what im talking about, its a ring...sure it was great buying it in Tiffany's...3 years later...i look at it and think...god could have flow to Australia 1st class for the price of that ring (oh wait i did do that). Anyhow you get the picture...at the end of a day its just a ring, it aint going to make anybody happy.

where exactly did i say you didn't buy a Tiffany ring?! im sure you did, good for you.

you said "the cheapest engagement ring starts at $9000"

you were wrong, they start at $1,500.

Anyway it's beside the point - nobody is suggesting the OP buy a Tiffany ring, just have a look then go down to the diamond district and buy a cheaper or bigger one IMO

magneticimpulse · 28-10-2010 09:30PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

where exactly did i say you didn't buy a Tiffany ring?! im sure you did, good for you.

you said "the cheapest engagement ring starts at $9000"

you were wrong, they start at $1,500.

Anyway it's beside the point - nobody is suggesting the OP buy a Tiffany ring, just have a look y'know

well if their website wasnt so bloody hard to look at, im not getting engaged, so why would i troll along 44 engagement rings.

you sound so stuck up...good luck with your wedding, one less annoying guy to worry about meeting in the world

toby2111 · 29-10-2010 09:00AM

Folks relax!!There's a bit too much aggression flying around.Both of you have made good suggestions and I appreciate them.I will go to Tiffanys for a look and for the experience.I know what I can/can't afford and so will my girlfriend so I'm sure for my budget we'll get something lovely.As for the costume jewelery vs brochure thing..both are good and I'll consider them both.One final question boinkmaster,were did u propose in NYC?Think I might do it top of Rockefeller Centre.

Theboinkmaster · 29-10-2010 09:36AM

toby2111 wrote: »

Folks relax!!There's a bit too much aggression flying around.Both of you have made good suggestions and I appreciate them.I will go to Tiffanys for a look and for the experience.I know what I can/can't afford and so will my girlfriend so I'm sure for my budget we'll get something lovely.As for the costume jewelery vs brochure thing..both are good and I'll consider them both.One final question boinkmaster,were did u propose in NYC?Think I might do it top of Rockefeller Centre.

Like the costume ring, brochure and all that - it's really down to personal taste. I took my GF to the rivercafe for dinner about 8pm but then just proposed back in the hotel room afterwards, with candles, champagne etc.

This was just my preference, as there aren't many private places in NYC and both myself and GF would be embarassed to do it in public, so i wanted to do it in private.

Some ideas i did toy with though:

- top of rockefeller centre (though i was there during my trip and glad i didn't as it was very very busy, so not very romantic IMO -> unless you chose a time of day where it was extremely quiet)

- boat house in central park, renting a boat and rowing around the lake

- anywhere in central park

- brooklyn promenade (as i was over that way to rivercafe)

- in rivercafe or another restaurant itself

TBH NY IMO is one of the best cities in the world - wherever you choose will be great. If you do a search on google there are actuall loads of sites with the top places to propose in NY etc.

magneticimpulse · 29-10-2010 09:40AM

Paris would be better thou!! the most romantic city in the world

toby2111 · 29-10-2010 10:00AM

Well,its defo NYC.Was thinking about going to Rockefeller Centre first thing in the morning on Xmas Eve (we land day before).Hoping there wont be a big crowd at the top,I know there'll be a few but wouldn't want a major crowd around me at the big moment.Just think it would be pretty cool to be looking at that brilliant New York view and then pop the question!

magneticimpulse · 29-10-2010 10:32AM

toby2111 wrote: »

Well,its defo NYC.Was thinking about going to Rockefeller Centre first thing in the morning on Xmas Eve (we land day before).Hoping there wont be a big crowd at the top,I know there'll be a few but wouldn't want a major crowd around me at the big moment.Just think it would be pretty cool to be looking at that brilliant New York view and then pop the question!

no has to be empire state building, like those old 50s movies. you should rent one out and watch it! "an affair to remember"

never been to the rockefeller centre, only empire state building so no idea about it.

st.patricks church is also nice!!! how romantic would that be, listening to some carol singers in st.patricks church??

edit: oh rockefeller centre is the ice skating ring...oh maybe that would work...lets go to the ICE skating RING!! as for top of the building...ifs its to be at a top of a building in new york...empire state building by far. if its the rockefeller...would have to be while ice skating (not on top of building)

As they say in the movies: The Empire State Building...its the nearest thing we have to heaven in New York

Toto Wolfcastle · 29-10-2010 10:45AM

The Rockefeller Centre is pretty unromantic tbh. If you want to do it somewhere like that go for the Empire State. That might be better, although it's still not the most romantic of spots. It's the experience that counts though, isn't it? There will always be people around but it is possible to do it discreetly. Although maybe not if you're planning on going down on one knee.

Theboinkmaster · 29-10-2010 10:47AM

toby2111 wrote: »

Well,its defo NYC.Was thinking about going to Rockefeller Centre first thing in the morning on Xmas Eve (we land day before).Hoping there wont be a big crowd at the top,I know there'll be a few but wouldn't want a major crowd around me at the big moment.Just think it would be pretty cool to be looking at that brilliant New York view and then pop the question!

Well Rockafeller easily provides to best view of NY - it's 10x better than empire state (search any tourist forums and they'll all say the same). I'd suggest maybe going early at sunrise or something? would be less people as it gets crowded up there

magneticimpulse · 29-10-2010 11:00AM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Well Rockafeller easily provides to best view of NY - it's 10x better than empire state (search any tourist forums and they'll all say the same). I'd suggest maybe going early at sunrise or something? would be less people as it gets crowded up there

Oh please, who ever goes up the rockafeller building??

everyone knows the empire state building is better. when was the rockafeller building in sleepless in seatle or affair to remember?? the rockafeller centre was never in any romantic movies...so why would you suggest it!!!

its like saying paris and the effiel tower and suggesting the arc du triumph to propose on!!!

Theboinkmaster · 29-10-2010 11:22AM

magneticimpulse wrote: »

Oh please, who ever goes up the rockafeller building??

everyone knows the empire state building is better. when was the rockafeller building in sleepless in seatle or affair to remember?? the rockafeller centre was never in any romantic movies...so why would you suggest it!!!

its like saying paris and the effiel tower and suggesting the arc du triumph to propose on!!!

I don't know what your problem is but you seem to deliberately try to contradict my every post for the sake of it.

Rockafeller is now more popular than empire state building and attracts more visitors. If you searched online you'd see this.

Rockafeller provides a full view of central park as well as midtown, whereas empire state only provides midtown. What is depicted in movies is irrelevant.

Google it FFS - look it up yourself.

Toby2111 is giving his ideas and you're just blowing him out of it for the sake of it - "don't do it in NY do it in paris", "don't do rockafella do empire state" and you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about.

toby2111 · 29-10-2010 11:25AM

Well,it seems that you two will disagree with each no matter what at this stage!!My bro living in NYC for 15 years and good friend of mine there past 3 years.Both would agree with boink that top of Rockefeller gives a better all round view of NYC.Just cos it aint in the movies doesnt mean its no good.It gives a clear view of empire state building+central park,manhattan.I did empire state before few years ago,personally thought it was a rip off.Packed,but had great view alright.Not gonna do it again.

magneticimpulse · 29-10-2010 11:26AM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

I don't know what your problem is but you seem to deliberately try to contradict my every post for the sake of it.

Rockafeller is now more popular than empire state building and attracts more visitors. If you searched online you'd see this.

Rockafeller provides a full view of central park as well as midtown, whereas empire state only provides midtown. What is depicted in movies is irrelevant.

Google it FFS - look it up yourself!

i dont need to because im a woman!!! not a man, and i think im highly informed being a woman as to where ROMANTIC places are to propose. what would you know, you proposed in a hotel room!!! could have done that anywhere in the world.

Women know where are nice places to be proposed are and top of the rockafeller centre is not one of them....the only thing romantic about that building is the ice skating ring.

Theboinkmaster · 29-10-2010 11:29AM

toby2111 wrote: »

Well,it seems that you two will disagree with each no matter what at this stage!!My bro living in NYC for 15 years and good friend of mine there past 3 years.Both would agree with boink that top of Rockefeller gives a better all round view of NYC.Just cos it aint in the movies doesnt mean its no good.It gives a clear view of empire state building+central park,manhattan.I did empire state before few years ago,personally thought it was a rip off.Packed,but had great view alright.Not gonna do it again.

+1 you're right

magneticimpulse · 29-10-2010 11:33AM

whatever, im just happy a guy i never going to propose to me on top of the rockafeller centre...how disappointing that would be.

at least the ice skating ring, would have been more fun skating around hand in hand and then pretending to tie your ice skating boot while down on 1 knee.

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