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The Hobbit may be filmed in Ireland

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Nah Grima Wormtongue is not in the Hobbit, so that rules Bertie out.
    Thought Wormtongue was already played by Eoghan Harris, Ryan Tubridy, et al?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭chakotha


    NZ will look better. It has the mountains to carry off the Misty Mountains plus the Lonely Mountain of course. And I'm sure it has more forest than Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Three pages in and nobody has compared Smaug to NAMA, Harney or the HSE!!


    Shame!
    :D:D

    In fairness Harney is closer to the pig from The Black Cauldron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Firehen


    I agree than NZ would look much better than here for the film.

    Looking back at the LoTR trilogy, do you think it would have been as epic had it been set in Ireland? Sure, a lot of the scenes would transfer without notice, but others, especially the mountainous scenes, would look a little.......small.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Waestrel


    excellent thread, would read again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Did you even read or watch LOTR? Christ, I hate the films, but The Hobbit is about getting treasure from Smaug, and LOTR is a film about walking. Oh and a ring.

    has someone been listening to Kevin Smith?:D


    Anyway I think it would be good to have the film done here. I believe Christopher Lee, who played Sauraman in the LOTR said he couldn't do The Hobbit because of the long distance travel he would have to do to New Zealand, but Ireland is a lot closer so he could proberly play Sauraman again. Also it's always good to talk about how movies were made here. We still talk about how part Saving Private Ryan was done in Wexford.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭ValJester


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    has someone been listening to Kevin Smith?:D


    Anyway I think it would be good to have the film done here. I believe Christopher Lee, who played Sauraman in the LOTR said he couldn't do The Hobbit because of the long distance travel he would have to do to New Zealand, but Ireland is a lot closer so he could proberly play Sauraman again. Also it's always good to talk about how movies were made here. We still talk about how part Saving Private Ryan was done in Wexford.

    Only problem is Saruman isn't in The Hobbit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    ValJester wrote: »
    Only problem is Saruman isn't in The Hobbit.

    He's referenced in the book, like when Gandalf has to leave the group, he meets Saruman, Galadriel and a council to talk about the Necromancer(Sauron), Saruman is the leader of the council. They'll proberly have cutscenes of this like they did in LOTR when Gandalf went to meet Sarumon and was imprisoned by him. But I thought there was talk of bringing Christopher Lee into the filming anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 IrishGreenSheep


    To be fair the film really belongs in New Zealand but it would be fantastic for it to be shot here :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I didn't think there was enough room for another fantasy movie here, because they're still filming the Chronicles of Nama.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Mary Harney to play Smaug anyone? Playing a giant monster would be perfect for her.

    Also Cowen and Bertie as the trolls.

    And the local scumbags can play the goblins. They won't even need make-up.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Aldebaran


    ValJester wrote: »
    Only problem is Saruman isn't in The Hobbit.

    As far as I know, they are actually making two movies. One is The Hobbit, and the other takes place in between The Hobbit and LOTR. Saruman would probably feature in the second.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    It won't be filmed here, the landscape isn't "epic" enough being completely honest. Maybe the parts in the Shire could be carried off but that's about it.
    Aldebaran wrote: »
    As far as I know, they are actually making two movies. One is The Hobbit, and the other takes place in between The Hobbit and LOTR. Saruman would probably feature in the second.

    The 2nd film is a non runner. It has no book to be based on with no storyline to follow etc Definately not happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    Damn! Wish i was still in the FCA, I'm sure theyl be called into active service again to provide extras for the movie like they did in braveheart and private ryan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭Flojo


    Aldebaran wrote: »
    As far as I know, they are actually making two movies. One is The Hobbit, and the other takes place in between The Hobbit and LOTR. Saruman would probably feature in the second.


    They better not.. that's blasphemy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Aldebaran


    The 2nd film is a non runner. It has no book to be based on with no storyline to follow etc Definately not happening.

    It's apparently based on the appendices to LOTR which document the period in between The Hobbit and LOTR.

    There's definitely two films being made anyway, and I don't see how they're going to stretch out The Hobbit over two feature-length movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭Flojo


    Aldebaran wrote: »
    It's apparently based on the appendices to LOTR which document the period in between The Hobbit and LOTR.

    There's definitely two films being made anyway, and I don't see how they're going to stretch out The Hobbit over two feature-length movies.

    I was thinking maybe something from Unfinished tales etc alright but not enough to make a whole movie out of it surely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭davepatr07


    Here's some interesting articles from the real Middle Earth:


    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10683054


    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/4275149/Hobbits-makers-want-more-money


    They held demonstrations here in Wellington last week to stop the film from going overseas. The Hobbiton set in Matamata is all built and ready (see pic..sheep inc!) :D

    Richard Taylor the Weta Workshop owner says all the resources for the film are here why bother moving it away. True


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Aldebaran wrote: »
    It's apparently based on the appendices to LOTR which document the period in between The Hobbit and LOTR.

    There's definitely two films being made anyway, and I don't see how they're going to stretch out The Hobbit over two feature-length movies.

    Hmm, don't think it'd make that good a film to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭chakotha


    I think there will be a lot on the wizards ousting Sauron from his stronghold in Mirkwood and he flees to Mordor.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Both films will be The Hobbit. While the book would make one film, they're fleshing out some of the back-story with elements taken from other Middle Earth sources. Who knows what this will end up like. Could end up as too bloated and dull or else Jackson knows exactly what he's doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭Flojo


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    Both films will be The Hobbit. While the book would make one film, they're fleshing out some of the back-story with elements taken from other Middle Earth sources. Who knows what this will end up like. Could end up as too bloated and dull or else Jackson knows exactly what he's doing.


    Jackson is back on the scene is he? I thought it was Del Toro... well then that "could" work. Fingers crossed it doesn't turn into a big mess and make me loose all respect for him. It still just doesnt feel right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Del Toro left the production a month or two ago. At the time, the production was in trouble over legal issues with MGM who owned the rights, and there were other things that jeopardized the production. So Del Toro left to do The Mountains of Madness. The only person left who could, nay, should take the director's seat was Peter Jackson. So he did. I trust Jackson to do the right thing by the production.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭dubtom


    Couldn't see a problem stretching two or even three films out of the Hobbit. As long as LOTR was it still only showed about ½ the book. Tolkien wrote a ton of stuff that could be included and I'm sure Smeagol will take up a good portion.
    I don't get the argument that the film belongs to NZ just because it looks nice,70% of the original was probably shot with blue screens anyway. I'm sure they could add a few thousand feet to the sugar loaf if needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭Flojo


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    Del Toro left the production a month or two ago. At the time, the production was in trouble over legal issues with MGM who owned the rights, and there were other things that jeopardized the production. So Del Toro left to do The Mountains of Madness. The only person left who could, nay, should take the director's seat was Peter Jackson. So he did. I trust Jackson to do the right thing by the production.

    I ment the second part of the film thingy! Jackson would do an awesome job on The Hobbit itself etc. It would just be interesting to see how he gets on with mashing a few different stories together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭cuppa


    i thought the films were pretty crap.why more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭Flojo


    cuppa wrote: »
    i thought the films were pretty crap.why more


    Because there is more people in the world than just you. :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Hobbit films to remain in New Zealand
    After a row so protracted that it has made the Lord of the Rings trilogy look endearingly brief, the Prime Minister of New Zealand, John Key has announced that the movie of The Hobbit will, after all, be made in NZ.

    Emerging from two days of crisis talks with Warner Bros executives at his official residence in Wellington, the capital, Mr Key said legislation would be brought in to resolve concerns about the country’s industrial laws which had threatened the $500 million project.

    In return, Warner Bros. would use its marketing clout to promote New Zealand as a tourist destination, the Prime Minister said.

    “It’s good to have the uncertainty over, and to have everyone now full steam ahead on this project,” he said.

    A bitter dispute with the actors’ union NZ Equity over pay had left the project, already cracking under the strain of soaring costs, legal battles and the loss of the original director Guillermo del Toro hanging by a celluloid thread .

    Peter Jackson, the director, had threatened to remove the film of J.R.R Tolkien’s prequel to the Lord of the Rings from his native NZ where he made the trilogy and which has since developed a thriving tourist industry based on the films.

    Those films, which grossed almost $3 billion and swept the boards at the 2003 Oscars, created a modern film industry for New Zealand centred at Sir Peter’s ‘Weta’ film studios in Wellington, or ‘Wellywood’ as it is now known.

    New Zealanders regard the movies as their own and over the weekend, thousands took to the streets to protest against The Hobbit moving offshore. Mr Key described the loss of the film as a potential “tragedy” for the country as other locations, including Watford were suggested for the shoot, which begins in February.

    Today, Mr Key said Sir Peter, who is also the film’s executive producer would “be a very happy camper,” and added that it was “unacceptable” to the New Zealand public to have the film go offshore.

    “I am delighted we have achieved this result,” Mr Key said.

    As well as a change in industrial laws, Mr Key said the film would get a NZ$15 million tax rebate - $7.5 million per film for the two-film project, a sum which he had indicated had been achieved by a “fair bit of hardball being played on both sides.”

    Meanwhile a furious Sir Peter claimed that the actors’ unions had already decided to blacklist the movie before it requested a meeting to discuss pay.

    Releasing a letter from the International Federation of Actors dated before discussions began and warning that it had instructed its members not to act in the film Sir Peter said: “From the outset they had a gun to our head.”

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Not really that surprised. I'm sure the NZ government would have done all in it's power to keep the production in New Zealand. It's not the Irish government, after all!
    I ment the second part of the film thingy! Jackson would do an awesome job on The Hobbit itself etc. It would just be interesting to see how he gets on with mashing a few different stories together.
    Well considering the whole production will be shooting simultaneously, I think it'd be awkward to have two directors. It's a massive production, and Jackson knows how to handle it. Del Toro has never tackled something that big. While I'd liked to have see what he'd have done, I'm happy enough to let Jackson loose in Middle Earth again.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    It was critical to New Zealands film industry to show alone that they could handle something of such a large scale again and that its wasn't a once off. That they hope will attract more interest from others.
    Obviously it will be a boost their new growing employment sector.


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