Squats the story - the Off Topic Thread...

gymfreak · 25-10-2010 04:53PM

Mellor wrote: »

Made a pig of myself this weekend.

yup..I can empathise aswell:(:(..burgers nah...chocolate..yes please

itsallaboutheL · 25-10-2010 06:18PM

Someone needs to teach me how to low bar squat before i break my everything

the drifter · 25-10-2010 06:25PM

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Someone needs to teach me how to low bar squat before i break my everything

I had you squatting just fine...then you went off training by yourself and lost everything...

brianthebard · 25-10-2010 07:05PM

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Someone needs to teach me how to low bar squat before i break my everything

whats wrong with your high bar position?

G86 · 25-10-2010 07:29PM

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Someone needs to teach me how to low bar squat before i break my everything

COH....

He fixes things.

the drifter · 25-10-2010 08:20PM

brianthebard wrote: »

whats wrong with your high bar position?

his bar position is fine....its when the rest of him tries to do a good morning is when the problems start

Mellor · 26-10-2010 02:09AM

d'Oracle wrote: »

Any Burgers?

Friend came over for the weekend, long story short, i got the munchies.
Basically chips, chicken wraps, nuggets and icecream.
No burgers, well the wrap is from a burger place, just got it on a wrap, epic tbh

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 26-10-2010 10:05AM

Hanley wrote: »

Floor wipers - ab exercise.

I was looking at 300 workout and saw the floor wipers being done, I can't decide if they're the stupidest exercise I've ever seen, or the most awesome!

Either way I'll be trying them out, are they done on the bench or the floor?

TommyKnocker · 26-10-2010 10:53AM

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

I was looking at 300 workout and saw the floor wipers being done, I can't decide if they're the stupidest exercise I've ever seen, or the most awesome!

Either way I'll be trying them out, are they done on the bench or the floor?

Have seen guys in my gym doing them on both the bench and the floor. Tbh is I was going to try them I would do the the first few times using the power cage, Just in case

And if you want some more ideas for targeting your abs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk_usVg7Fp0

M

itsallaboutheL · 26-10-2010 12:21PM

B-Builder wrote: »

Have seen guys in my gym doing them on both the bench and the floor. Tbh is I was going to try them I would do the the first few times using the power cage, Just in case

That's like cutting off your testicles before you have sex for the first time.... just in case.

TommyKnocker · 26-10-2010 12:38PM

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

That's like cutting off your testicles before you have sex for the first time.... just in case.

I see it as more of a safety precaution, more like wearing a raincoat than self mutilation tbh

M

itsallaboutheL · 26-10-2010 12:42PM

B-Builder wrote: »

I see it as more of a safety precaution, more like wearing a raincoat than self mutilation tbh

M

So use a spotter, i don't see how you could do them in a rack with the safeties up tbh ?

TommyKnocker · 26-10-2010 12:48PM

Safeties would be 4-6 inches below the bar when your arms are extended, but still well above your head. I just think it would be a little safer the first time you try floor wipers. You still support the weight above your head, but should you lose balance, then the safeties will catch the weight.

Honestly don't think it would be that difficult to do in a rack tbh. I mean I have seen folks do floor presses in the rack, laying on the floor and doing a type of bench press.

M

itsallaboutheL · 26-10-2010 01:27PM

B-Builder wrote: »

Safeties would be 4-6 inches below the bar when your arms are extended, but still well above your head. I just think it would be a little safer the first time you try floor wipers. You still support the weight above your head, but should you lose balance, then the safeties will catch the weight.

Honestly don't think it would be that difficult to do in a rack tbh. I mean I have seen folks do floor presses in the rack, laying on the floor and doing a type of bench press.

M

You're forgetting your legs in this whole equation

COH · 26-10-2010 01:41PM

G86 wrote: »

COH....

He fixes things.

Shut up.. I dont want more people annoying me in work!

G86 · 26-10-2010 01:48PM

COH wrote: »

Shut up.. I dont want more people annoying me in work!

Work?? Is that what you're calling it now?:D

Anyhows, there's an opening seeing as I'm not there anymore!

TommyKnocker · 26-10-2010 01:50PM

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

You're forgetting your legs in this whole equation

Em, no I am not. I only need the top half of my torso in the cage to take advantage of the safety bars. My legs can be outside of the cage and free to move as required.

I am only suggesting this as a safe way to get used to holding the bar over head while you are moving your legs. Once you get used to this you would move out on to the floor/bench.

M

the drifter · 26-10-2010 01:56PM

B-Builder wrote: »

Em, no I am not. I only need the top half of my torso in the cage to take advantage of the safety bars. My legs can be outside of the cage and free to move as required.

I am only suggesting this as a safe way to get used to holding the bar over head while you are moving your legs. Once you get used to this you would move out on to the floor/bench.

M

erm....

floorwipers...

if your legs were outside the cage...and you needed to bring them up to touch the plates...wouldnt the cage get in the way?

TommyKnocker · 26-10-2010 02:02PM

I am suggesting this simply as a method to get used to holding the weight up, while moving your legs. So you get used to stabilising the weight and don't drop it.

I honestly don't think that anybody, whether in a cage or not is going to be hitting perfect form and tipping the plates with their toes on their first attempts. Now I am sure there will be a few that can but IMO most won't be able to hit correct form first time out.

As I said I just think that there could be some benefit in using the cage to get used to stabilising the weight while you move the lower part of you body from side to side, even if you only moved your legs from the 12 o clock position to 9 and back and then 12 to 3 and back.

M

Hanley · 26-10-2010 02:06PM

B-Builder wrote: »

I am suggesting this simply as a method to get used to holding the weight up, while moving your legs. So you get used to stabilising the weight and don't drop it.

I honestly don't think that anybody, whether in a cage or not is going to be hitting perfect form and tipping the plates with their toes on their first attempts. Now I am sure there will be a few that can but IMO most won't be able to hit correct form first time out.

As I said I just think that there could be some benefit in using the cage to get used to stabilising the weight while you move the lower part of you body from side to side.

M

So you think you should do the exercise in a manner that removes the entire point of the exercise.?

the drifter · 26-10-2010 02:07PM

B-Builder wrote: »

I am suggesting this simply as a method to get used to holding the weight up, while moving your legs. So you get used to stabilising the weight and don't drop it.

I honestly don't think that anybody, whether in a cage or not is going to be hitting perfect form and tipping the plates with their toes on their first attempts. Now I am sure there will be a few that can but IMO most won't be able to hit correct form first time out.

As I said I just think that there could be some benefit in using the cage to get used to stabilising the weight while you move the lower part of you body from side to side, even if you only moved your legs from the 12 o clock position to 9 and back and then 12 to 3 and back.

M

thats like half squatting.....or curling in the rack just incase!

TommyKnocker · 26-10-2010 02:10PM

Hanley wrote: »

So you think you should do the exercise in a manner that removes the entire point of the exercise.?

No I don't, but I think it would be tricky on your FIRST ATTEMPT to stabilise a weight over head while you are moving your lower body in the required fashion. I simply thought that getting used to stabilising the weight in the relative safety of the cage might help. Simple as that.

M

itsallaboutheL · 26-10-2010 02:11PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7movKfyTBII

TommyKnocker · 26-10-2010 02:13PM

Frankly I would rather take the safe approach the take the risk of injuring myself or worse still somebody else.

But to each their own.

M

d'Oracle · 26-10-2010 02:15PM

the drifter wrote: »

thats like half squatting.....or curling in the rack just incase!

NO SQUATTING IN THE CURL RACK!

TommyKnocker · 26-10-2010 02:19PM

the drifter wrote: »

thats like half squatting.....or curling in the rack just incase!

I don't see it like that.

If you were teaching somebody to squat for the very first time, would you have them use the safety bars in the cage or not?

When you are squatting or curling for that matter you are standing and have (or at least should have) a pretty solid stance and good balance.

I don't imagine you are quite so well balanced while laying down with a weighted bar held above your head.

So my suggestion was simply that it may help to get used to stabilise the weight. You all don't agree obviously, that's ok. No issue.

M

Hanley · 26-10-2010 02:19PM

B-Builder wrote: »

Frankly I would rather take the safe approach the take the risk of injuring myself or worse still somebody else.

But to each their own.

M

Frankly, if you don't think the exercise is safe, don't do it.

d'Oracle · 26-10-2010 02:23PM

Hanley wrote: »

Frankly, if you don't think the exercise is safe, don't do it.

But....but its in the 300 workout.
You have to do it.

itsallaboutheL · 26-10-2010 02:34PM

I can get a kilogram more over my head than she can.....

she weighs half of what i do.

She's 16.

TommyKnocker · 26-10-2010 02:54PM

Hanley wrote: »

Frankly, if you don't think the exercise is safe, don't do it.

Alternatively you can do a modified form of the exercise and build up to doing the exercise as it's meant to be performed.

Here is what somebody calls floor wipers. This could easily be done in a cage. This is how I envision most first timers would look, though maybe without the control over the bar on their first attempts that this guy has.

Here is somebody elses version of floor wipers. I don't believe the additional floor press is by design

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQghUBTbzbg

And here is where you should be aiming to get to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1pYIrVwjqw

M

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