How to clear our national debt FAST!

Johro · 20-10-2010 12:36AM

Stekelly wrote: »

And in turn has led to a happy , content society that is trouble free. There is no downside to this, we need to start now.

You have a point. No I was thinking more of the government wanting to subdue us, more cuts on the way and all that. Plus the money of course. Two birds, one stone.

Johro · 20-10-2010 12:42AM

Jamiekelly wrote: »

legalize marijuana

Nah. They'd only slap a tax on it, like on tobacco. Nearly 9 euro for a 25g packet of Drum..
4 euro 60c. on the continent, for 50g.

ArtSmart · 25-10-2010 03:40PM

Jamiekelly wrote: »

legalize marijuana

or criminalise coffee (after buying and hoarding lots of it)

Overheal · 25-10-2010 03:49PM

Johro wrote: »

Grow Opium.

lol you dont have the climate for that.

bonzodog2 · 25-10-2010 03:52PM

Johro wrote: »

You have a point. No I was thinking more of the government wanting to subdue us, more cuts on the way and all that. Plus the money of course. Two birds, one stone.

Is that one of those videos that you can't unwatch ?

Harekin · 25-10-2010 04:12PM

Johro wrote: »

Nah. They'd only slap a tax on it, like on tobacco. Nearly 9 euro for a 25g packet of Drum..
4 euro 60c. on the continent, for 50g.

If they taxed it too highly it'd lead to a blackmarket emerging.

The legalising cannabis argument is a solid argument, realistically, because a large minority of the population is doing it anyways! A few bulletpoints highlighting the reasons cannabis alone could fix our economy.

1. Free up prison places for what are generally non-violent crimes (it costs between 50-90 thousand euro per prisoner per year), there are over 600 jailbirds walking the streets because of overcrowding.

2. Free up police resources because they waste SO much money on a drug that is less harmless than the national favourite alcohol (which is also a drug, you think if alcohol was only discovered now it would be legal?!) and then go and attack the drugs that ACTUALLY harm society.

3. Massively boost tourism (do you think people go to Amsterdam for the architecture?!)

4. Coffeeshops (or whatever outlet would emerge) would pay taxes, employ people (who pay PAYE), electricity charges for growing, they'd probably buy their supplies in Ireland meaning more money ploughed back into our economy.

5. The drugs gangs would lose their main source of income and even the ditch weed that international criminals import into Ireland would no longer be of an acceptable quality thus meaning Ireland wouldnt be contributing to the international criminality.

6. Probably more importantly, people suffering for a HUGE range of illnesses (cancer, HIV/AIDS, MS, Parkinsons, etc) would be able to live a higher quality of life than they do currently and freely access the substance to do so.

A few other points:

People wouldnt try harder drugs...the Gateway Effect I personally believe is because currently people must buy their weed off a dealer, who in turn offer you harder stuff ("You wanna try some of this?").

You could regulate it the same as alcohol, with stricter penalties for underage sales and DUI.

Let me provide some statistics just for the craic aswell:

ANNUAL AMERICAN DEATHS CAUSED BY DRUGS

TOBACCO ........................ 400,000
ALCOHOL ........................ 100,000
ALL LEGAL DRUGS ................ 20,000
ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS .............. 15,000
CAFFEINE ....................... 2,000
ASPIRIN ........................ 500
MARIJUANA ...................... 0

Source: United States government
National Institute on Drug Abuse,
Bureau of Mortality Statistics

I really dont see a disadvantage?

Cheap Thrills! · 25-10-2010 04:13PM

Round up all the politicians, bankers, regulators, crooked developers, senior Civil servants and other miscellaneous societal parasites.

Set up a pay-in human safari park. Provide paint guns and pellet guns to paying members of the public.

Dress the crooked cannon fodder in meat suits and release them into the park. (park would be havily populated with foxes, hungry dogs and other meat lovin critters) Commence hunting them down through rough terrain and shooting them till their fat blubbery bodies are riddled with painful bruises and nibble wounds from the rabid mob and assorted peckish wildlife.

Round them all up again at nighttime and feed them enough to keep them alive and house them in cages at night. Release them again every day until the admission fee's ensure the debt is cleared. Might take several million aeons.

Then churn them up into mincemeat and feed them to the critters. :cool::pac:

strobe · 25-10-2010 04:17PM

1. Pick a county, somewhere that doesn't really serve any purpose.......Sligo in other words. Commandeer all the land and property, move the people that used to live there to the ghost estates scattered all over the country.

2. Employ all the out of work construction workers to demolish the majority of homes and businesses that used to be there.

3. Legalize prostitution and the sale and possession all forms of illegal drugs in Sligo, and change the licensing laws to allow everywhere to stay open 24hrs a day.

4. Have the construction workers build hundreds of brothels, nightclubs, casinos and drug dens. Then have them build an international airport and a big wall around the newly built city.

5. Once the new kick ass party city is built train all the construction workers and support staff up as brothel, nightclub, casino, airport and drug den workers. Train more unemployed to fill any more positions needed.

6. Once Sligo starts exceeding it's capacity, move onto the next county that's dragging it's feet in terms of usefulness. Looking at you Mayo.

7. Enjoy the creation of thousands of jobs and billions a year in tourist monies.

OutlawPete · 25-10-2010 04:19PM

Is there any country in the world that doesn't owe money?

TPD · 25-10-2010 04:19PM

Harekin wrote: »

I really dont see a disadvantage?

I don't think I've ever seen an 'anti cannabis' person change their mind, no matter how much relentless logic and reason is thrown at them. Those who'd agree with you probably already do, and those who wouldn't probably never will.

I'm all for it by the way.

Kasabian · 25-10-2010 04:28PM

strobe wrote: »

1. Pick a county, somewhere that doesn't really serve any purpose.......Sligo in other words. Commandeer all the land and property, move the people that used to live there to the ghost estates scattered all over the country.

That means Sligo people having to mingle with normal people, not good.

2. Employ all the out of work construction workers to demolish the majority of homes and businesses that used to be there.

Thats about a weeks work.

3. Legalize prostitution and the sale and possession all forms of illegal drugs in Sligo, and change the licensing laws to allow everywhere to stay open 24hrs a day.

Already in place just ask any Garda who has had the misfortune of being in Sligo.

4. Have the construction workers build hundreds of brothels, nightclubs, casinos and drug dens. Then have them build an international airport and a big wall around the newly built city.

Shall we rename it hell, oh wait let me rethink that one

5. Once the new kick ass party city is built train all the construction workers and support staff up as brothel, nightclub, casino, airport and drug den workers. Train more unemployed to fill any more positions needed.

Only someone from Sligo would consider it a city, to the rest it's a village of inbreds and once the construction workers start breeding with the locals only a nuclear bomb will fix the problems.

6. Once Sligo starts exceeding it's capacity, move onto the next county that's dragging it's feet in terms of usefulness. Looking at you Mayo.

See above, same issues

7. Enjoy the creation of thousands of jobs and billions a year in tourist monies.

Lets have a commitee formed as I see cracks appearing in your theory.

Cheap Thrills! · 25-10-2010 04:28PM

strobe wrote: »

1. Pick a county, somewhere that doesn't really serve any purpose.......Sligo in other words. Commandeer all the land and property, move the people that used to live there to the ghost estates scattered all over the country.

2. Employ all the out of work construction workers to demolish the majority of homes and businesses that used to be there.

3. Legalize prostitution and the sale and possession all forms of illegal drugs in Sligo, and change the licensing laws to allow everywhere to stay open 24hrs a day.

4. Have the construction workers build hundreds of brothels, nightclubs, casinos and drug dens. Then have them build an international airport and a big wall around the newly built city.

5. Once the new kick ass party city is built train all the construction workers and support staff up as brothel, nightclub, casino, airport and drug den workers. Train more unemployed to fill any more positions needed.

6. Once Sligo starts exceeding it's capacity, move onto the next county that's dragging it's feet in terms of usefulness. Looking at you Mayo.

7. Enjoy the creation of thousands of jobs and billions a year in tourist monies.

That's 'Amsterdam' from 'the Wire' !!!!

But still, it could work!!

:pac:

Kasabian · 25-10-2010 04:29PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Is there any country in the world that doesn't owe money?

.

I will have a guess at Saudi , Venezuela and Nashville

Tomtata · 25-10-2010 04:31PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Is there any country in the world that doesn't owe money?

See attached

Sea Sharp · 25-10-2010 04:42PM

Legalise marijuana and MDMA.
Then we sit back and watch all those crazy Europeans coming over for raves and/or stoner sessions.

Pauleta · 25-10-2010 06:04PM

Turn the empty building sites around Carrickmines and Cherrywood into state run super casino's and turn South Dublin into Europe's Las Vegas

ArtSmart · 26-10-2010 12:13AM

Pauleta wrote: »

Turn the empty building sites around Carrickmines and Cherrywood into state run super casino's and turn South Dublin into Europe's Las Vegas

I dibs a stripper job. (paint stripper / maintenance)

Johro · 26-10-2010 02:01AM

Harekin wrote: »

If they taxed it too highly it'd lead to a blackmarket emerging.

The legalising cannabis argument is a solid argument, realistically, because a large minority of the population is doing it anyways! A few bulletpoints highlighting the reasons cannabis alone could fix our economy.

1. Free up prison places for what are generally non-violent crimes (it costs between 50-90 thousand euro per prisoner per year), there are over 600 jailbirds walking the streets because of overcrowding.

2. Free up police resources because they waste SO much money on a drug that is less harmless than the national favourite alcohol (which is also a drug, you think if alcohol was only discovered now it would be legal?!) and then go and attack the drugs that ACTUALLY harm society.

3. Massively boost tourism (do you think people go to Amsterdam for the architecture?!)

4. Coffeeshops (or whatever outlet would emerge) would pay taxes, employ people (who pay PAYE), electricity charges for growing, they'd probably buy their supplies in Ireland meaning more money ploughed back into our economy.

5. The drugs gangs would lose their main source of income and even the ditch weed that international criminals import into Ireland would no longer be of an acceptable quality thus meaning Ireland wouldnt be contributing to the international criminality.

6. Probably more importantly, people suffering for a HUGE range of illnesses (cancer, HIV/AIDS, MS, Parkinsons, etc) would be able to live a higher quality of life than they do currently and freely access the substance to do so.

A few other points:

People wouldnt try harder drugs...the Gateway Effect I personally believe is because currently people must buy their weed off a dealer, who in turn offer you harder stuff ("You wanna try some of this?").

You could regulate it the same as alcohol, with stricter penalties for underage sales and DUI.

Let me provide some statistics just for the craic aswell:

ANNUAL AMERICAN DEATHS CAUSED BY DRUGS

TOBACCO ........................ 400,000
ALCOHOL ........................ 100,000
ALL LEGAL DRUGS ................ 20,000
ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS .............. 15,000
CAFFEINE ....................... 2,000
ASPIRIN ........................ 500
MARIJUANA ...................... 0
Source: United States government
National Institute on Drug Abuse,
Bureau of Mortality Statistics

I really dont see a disadvantage?

Agreed. Can't see it happening though. And a black market would emerge. Which would be illegal, again.

Capt'n Midnight · 26-10-2010 02:33AM

http://www.linwoods.co.uk/en/super_food.php?cat=8#prod10 :eek:

Hemp is a delicious snack or also a perfect accompaniment to cereal, fruit, yogurt, soup, juice, casseroles, smoothies, stir fry or baking.

Misanthrope · 26-10-2010 05:01AM

Steve Jobs will pay the debt if you keep him, finish him off even.Just make sure he never sees light of day.

or

You could kidnap Anne Coulter and threaten to let her go if the whole world doesn't pay up

Misanthrope · 26-10-2010 05:25AM

The best way to deal with the debt is start copying Switzerland.

Stashing gold, yodeling,skiing to cowbells,staying out of fights,finishing schools for ladies,colleges for American draftdodgers and a feather in your hat.That's how the Swiss roll,with or without puns.I reckon they must have the rosiest history of any Europeeon country.

Lets compare

Britain : 1AD -1100 AD : War,death, pestilence,starvation,disease and chasmic ignorance.
1100 - 1150 : Cricket and tea afterwards in the pavilion
1150 - 2010 : War,death,rape,world cup 66,more war,plenty more ignorance, child labour,incest,Posh Spice

Switzerland :1AD -2010 AD: Rich

You see the facts don't lie.

We need to basically legalise everything and anything that can make foreigners come here and give us their dough.

Capt'n Midnight · 26-10-2010 01:12PM

Misanthrope wrote: »

Lets compare

Britain : 1AD -1100 AD : War,death, pestilence,starvation,disease and chasmic ignorance.
1100 - 1150 : Cricket and tea afterwards in the pavilion
1150 - 2010 : War,death,rape,world cup 66,more war,plenty more ignorance, child labour,incest,Posh Spice

Switzerland :1AD -2010 AD: Rich

You see the facts don't lie.

We need to basically legalise everything and anything that can make foreigners come here and give us their dough.

I believe the quote you are looking for is

Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly.

actually they've never had 500 years of peace , Napoleon took them over and later on they had a civil war,

anyway the reasons they can be neutral don't apply to us
we aren't a major arms exporter , we can't hide behind our mountains while still churning out enough arms from hydroelectric arms factories , our entire population doesn't have guns at home , we don't have fallout shelters in every building

and besides no one trusts our banks

connundrum · 26-10-2010 01:22PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Is there any country in the world that doesn't owe money?

We could get a lend off Liechtenstein in lieu of a home win at the next Euro/World Cup Qualifiers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

strobe wrote: »

1. Pick a county, somewhere that doesn't really serve any purpose.......Sligo in other words. Commandeer all the land and property, move the people that used to live there to the ghost estates scattered all over the country.

2. Employ all the out of work construction workers to demolish the majority of homes and businesses that used to be there.

3. Legalize prostitution and the sale and possession all forms of illegal drugs in Sligo, and change the licensing laws to allow everywhere to stay open 24hrs a day.

4. Have the construction workers build hundreds of brothels, nightclubs, casinos and drug dens. Then have them build an international airport and a big wall around the newly built city.

5. Once the new kick ass party city is built train all the construction workers and support staff up as brothel, nightclub, casino, airport and drug den workers. Train more unemployed to fill any more positions needed.

6. Once Sligo starts exceeding it's capacity, move onto the next county that's dragging it's feet in terms of usefulness. Looking at you Mayo.

7. Enjoy the creation of thousands of jobs and billions a year in tourist monies.

Could we call it 'Las Connaughts'?

FreudianSlippers · 26-10-2010 02:16PM

Always look on the bright side of life *whistles*

scorpioishere · 26-10-2010 02:23PM

Cut all social Welfare by 100%

AnonoBoy · 26-10-2010 02:30PM

scorpioishere wrote: »

Cut all social Welfare by 100%

+ Not a popular opinion there Bob. With the amount of redundancies we've had in the past year the crowd will be baying for scorpioishere's blood if this policy is carried.

- Yes indeed Jim, he's basically condemning thousands and thousands of families around the country to a life of abject poverty. The rise in crime figures alone would be enough to make this policy a complete no-go area.

+ Thanks for that Bob. It's back to you in the studio Sharon.

Des Carter · 26-10-2010 03:16PM

I have the perfect plan to get out of the recession in 13 easy steps.

1.prank call the white house pretending to be Garth Brookes
2.tell Obama that you want to do a world tour in his honour but are lacking funds
3.set up a world tour
4. bring the tour to China
5.Set up a new Charity in China called " The Dragon Disaster Relief Fund" (DDRF)
6.?????
7.?????
8.spray paint the dragons so that they look like they are South African dragons
9.invest all of Irelands money in South African razor-blade companies
10.have the dragons kill everyone at the China concert and kidnap Obama and Garth Brooks
11.America will be pissed off and as Obama is kidnapped George Bush becomes president again.
12.America will go to war with South Africa
13.We become rich.

Ok so how does this make us rich?
well we set up the (DDRF) in China before the attack so we would have a monopoly on the money donated to the victims, and as China is still being censored etc we will be able to take all the donated money and send it back to Ireland without anyone knowing.

Also we invested in the razor-blade companies in South Africa so when America invades them the soldiers will have to shave and so the share prices in these companies will rise significantly giving Ireland more mony?

Yes it is genious!

corpo3030 · 26-10-2010 03:33PM

You misspelled 'genius', genius.

FreudianSlippers · 26-10-2010 04:03PM

corpo3030 wrote: »

You misspelled 'genius', genius.

It's a very common misspelling of that word and one which I never quite understand.

Sea Sharp · 26-10-2010 04:08PM

OisinT wrote: »

It's a very common misspelling of that word and one which I never quite understand.

google chrome spell check FTW

How to clear our national debt FAST!

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