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Rooney not signing a new contract?

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  • #1112
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,065 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    flahavaj wrote: »
    So whats your point?

    United do spend money or United don't?

    Or does it really matter as long as you get to have a good aul rant about United.

    Seize the day baby.

    My point is that they pay well over the odds for limited players and unproven players .


  • #1113
    ntlbell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,287 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Pro. F wrote: »
    Yes I agree it's the primary motivation. In a lot of cases anyway.

    If you'd said that in the first place I wouldn't have disagreed with you. But you said something quite different.

    Are you doing this on purpose?

    If the right amount of money can make a player disregard, everything else

    then everything is money?

    everyone has a price.


  • #1114
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    My point is that they pay well over the odds for limited players and unproven players .

    So why are you banging on about them not buying world class players these days when according you they've never done so?


  • #1115
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    ntlbell wrote: »
    Are you doing this on purpose?

    If the right amount of money can make a player disregard, everything else

    then everything is money?

    everyone has a price.

    To say that things like location and prospects of success aren't a factor is nonsense. Of course money is a big factor I'm not denying that.


  • #1116
    ntlbell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,287 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Pro. F wrote: »
    To say that things like location and prospects of success aren't a factor is nonsense. Of course money is a big factor I'm not denying that.

    They can be, all things equal. But when it's not E.G. one is offering more money, they can over ride everything else if the money is big enough.

    there goes, money is the be all and end all as it can override everything else.

    christ all mighty.


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  • #1117
    Thanx 4 The Fish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,399 ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Primary Motivation is money it can circumvent all other consideration as per the example I gave.

    That is not what you said though. Perhaps you should read some of the claptrap you come out with, then you could defend it without having to shift the goalposts.


  • #1118
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,065 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    flahavaj wrote: »
    So why are you banging on about them not buying world class players these days when according you they've never done so?

    Because alot of United players came through the youth team .
    Top class players like Scholes,Giggs,Beckham .
    They arent coming through anymore .
    Van Der Sar,Giggs and Scholes will be gone in 12 months time ,there are no replacements.
    You cant keep relying on buying unproven players and hoping they will be world class and you also cant buy attacking midfielders and try to convert them into defensive midfielders (something Ferguson has been consistently guilty of doing over the last 5 years )
    There are times when you need to go out and buy a few big proven world class players if you expect to be the "Biggest" club in the world .


  • #1119
    ntlbell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,287 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Why does every thread here require play ground explanations

    "Hai, i want success, sun and the womenz."

    Rea:, we have it all 50k a week.

    Chelsea, no sun here, suchess womenz and 100k a week

    Bolton, no sun no women no success. 250k a week.

    "I hear peter kay is funny!!"


  • #1120
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Because alot of United players came through the youth team .
    Top class players like Scholes,Giggs,Beckham .
    They arent coming through anymore .
    Van Der Sar,Giggs and Scholes will be gone in 12 months time ,there are no replacements.
    You cant keep relying on buying unproven players and hoping they will be world class and you also cant buy attacking midfielders and try to convert them into defensive midfielders (something Ferguson has been consistently guilty of doing over the last 5 years )
    There are times when you need to go out and buy a few big proven world class players if you expect to be the "Biggest" club in the world .

    Your argument is all over the place.

    Maybe you and recyclingbin should have a chat - he thinks he's a chequebook manager.


  • #1121
    d22ontour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭d22ontour


    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    £18 on Hargreaves.
    Thats alot of money.He hasnt bought a genuine top class central midfielder in 17 years.

    I know he's crocked but 18 quid... :)

    Also he was top class just injured a lot. ;)


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  • #1122
    Thanx 4 The Fish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,399 ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    ntlbell wrote: »
    Why does every thread here require play ground explanations

    "Hai, i want success, sun and the womenz."

    Rea:, we have it all 50k a week.

    Chelsea, no sun here, suchess womenz and 100k a week

    Bolton, no sun no women no success. 250k a week.

    "I hear peter kay is funny!!"

    It doesn't, they mostly require people who can see sense. Money is not always the only thing. If it was everyone would be playing for Monaco where they do not have to pay taxes on the same amount of money and so earn twice as much as a player in the prem for example.

    What every thread needs is people who are happy to accept that sometimes, no matter how odd it seems, they can be wrong or at least not as right as they think they are.


  • #1123
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Come on lads..

    06a2e9ae_someone-wrong-on-internet.jpg.png


  • #1124
    3hn2givr7mx1sc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Come on lads..

    06a2e9ae_someone-wrong-on-internet.jpg.png

    Bed at half 8?:P


  • #1125
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    ntlbell wrote: »
    They can be, all things equal. But when it's not E.G. one is offering more money, they can over ride everything else if the money is big enough.

    there goes, money is the be all and end all as it can override everything else.

    christ all mighty.
    ntlbell wrote: »
    Why does every thread here require play ground explanations

    "Hai, i want success, sun and the womenz."

    Rea:, we have it all 50k a week.

    Chelsea, no sun here, suchess womenz and 100k a week

    Bolton, no sun no women no success. 250k a week.

    "I hear peter kay is funny!!"
    Ugh.

    Money is not the only factor that determines where players go.
    Are you denying this?


  • #1126
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    baz2009 wrote: »
    Bed at half 8?:P



    I'm pretty sure a lot of them have school in the morning. ;)


  • #1127
    ntlbell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,287 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Pro. F wrote: »
    Ugh.

    Money is not the only factor that determines where players go.
    Are you denying this?

    Monery can over turn any stumbling block if the amount of money is right.


  • #1128
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    ntlbell wrote: »
    Monery can over turn any stumbling block if the amount of money is right.
    I agree.

    Edit: (I got distracted by the football) I agree that, in theory, if the amount is big enough money can overcome nearly any obstacle, but it still doesn't change the fact that money is not the only factor that determines where players go.


  • #1129
    3hn2givr7mx1sc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure a lot of them have school in the morning. ;)

    So do I.:pac:


  • #1130
    Roar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    banner at Old Trafford, which I thought was amusing..

    69162452768974559510114.jpg


  • #1131
    The Cannibal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭The Cannibal


    Put the money from Rooney towards bringing in Luis Suarez and Wesley Sneijder and the squad will be stronger for it.


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  • #1132
    recylingbin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Can't believe how disloyal Utd fans are to Rooney tbh.


  • #1133
    Essien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    The Cannibal wrote: »
    Put the money from Rooney towards bringing in Luis Suarez and Wesley Sneijder and the squad will be stronger for it.

    I doubt they'll get enough to buy Sneijder on his own tbh


  • #1134
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,450 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    recylingbin wrote: »
    Can't believe how disloyal Utd fans are to Rooney tbh.

    That is laughable


  • #1135
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    baz2009 wrote: »
    Bed at half 8?:P

    I have to get up at 11 in the morning.


  • #1136
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    John Giles's comment about a deal already being done was an interesting point. I wonder if his representives do have a verbal agreement with someone for Rooney


  • #1137
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Hilarious and rather expensive looking posters there. Glossy? Whatever happened to a white sheet and paintbrush?


  • #1138
    recylingbin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    That is laughable
    It was meant to be.


  • #1139
    Peyton Manning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    recylingbin wrote: »
    Can't believe how disloyal Utd fans are to Rooney tbh.

    Well to be fair, if there's one thing Rooney understands, it's disloyalty.

    Ask Everton.

    Ask United.

    Fúck it, even ask his wife.


  • #1140
    MarcusFenix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭MarcusFenix


    Does anyone else feel like they've been broken up with by a long term partner that they totally didn't see coming?:(


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  • #1141
    doc_17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭doc_17


    imo (and I'm not looking to rag anyone) it's hypocritical for some fans to get angry at Rooney for wanting to leave. It's for the same reasons he left Everton to go to United in the first place. More money and a better chance of winning things. It's just that the shoe is on the other foot now. It's all about perspective.

    I really think he should stay at United though. It would be best for him.


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