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No Redress For Victims of Magdalen Laundries

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  • #62
    Gunsfortoys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    Well is anyone honestly surprised? Instead of complaining there should be some sort of fundraising for the victims, the sooner people realise that this government are only interested in their own pockets the better.


  • #63
    JonJoeDali
    Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭JonJoeDali


    Gunsfortoys wrote: »
    Well is anyone honestly surprised? Instead of complaining there should be some sort of fundraising for the victims, the sooner people realise that this government are only interested in their own pockets the better.

    Actually, the sooner people realise that the "victims" are only interested in their own pockets, the better.

    I have yet to see one example of an abuse survivor in the last five years who has not received a large compensation payout.

    Those who have already been compensated (sometimes 20 years ago) see the sums on offer today and are jealous that they didn't get as much. There's a lot of that kind of stuff going on at the moment. The compensation gravy train is coming to an end and people are clambouring over themselves to keep the wheels turning.


  • #64
    bronte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    JonJoeDali wrote: »
    Actually, the sooner people realise that the "victims" are only interested in their own pockets, the better.

    I have yet to see one example of an abuse survivor in the last five years who has not received a large compensation payout.

    Those who have already been compensated (sometimes 20 years ago) see the sums on offer today and are jealous that they didn't get as much. There's a lot of that kind of stuff going on at the moment. The compensation gravy train is coming to an end and people are clambouring over themselves to keep the wheels turning.


    Are you actually serious?
    You don't think these women should be compensated for the horrors they endured? :confused:


  • #65
    Ostrom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Ostrom


    JonJoeDali wrote: »
    Actually, the sooner people realise that the "victims" are only interested in their own pockets, the better.

    I have yet to see one example of an abuse survivor in the last five years who has not received a large compensation payout.

    Those who have already been compensated (sometimes 20 years ago) see the sums on offer today and are jealous that they didn't get as much. There's a lot of that kind of stuff going on at the moment. The compensation gravy train is coming to an end and people are clambouring over themselves to keep the wheels turning.

    You might have a read of Frances Finnegan's 'do penance or perish' for accounts of lifetime imprisonment, routine humiliation, and forced labour of the sick, pregnant and 'feeble minded'. June Goulding's account of the sale of children into adoptive families whilst their mothers laboured on the convent grounds, and many more recent stories of mass burial grounds for lifetime penitents. Disgusting, ignorant attitude.


  • #66
    Millicent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    JonJoeDali wrote: »
    Actually, the sooner people realise that the "victims" are only interested in their own pockets, the better.

    I have yet to see one example of an abuse survivor in the last five years who has not received a large compensation payout.

    Those who have already been compensated (sometimes 20 years ago) see the sums on offer today and are jealous that they didn't get as much. There's a lot of that kind of stuff going on at the moment. The compensation gravy train is coming to an end and people are clambouring over themselves to keep the wheels turning.

    I think they should be compensated for the work they did. Would you work for free? Ignoring the abuse, which you seem more than willing to do so this hypothetical shouldn't prove difficult to accept, would you be willing to work in a place for up to 40 years, live and die there, and never get paid for your efforts?

    If you had have informed yourself, you would realise that these women didn't get released from these institutions out of the goodness of anyone's heart. The laundries were closed, in 1996 IIRC, because the minimum wage laws were brought in and it was illegal for them not to pay women for what was essentially slave labour.

    I would have argued in that case that the fact the Gardai and prison services used the laundries but never sued for fraud when it was discovered that the women were not being compensated would prove them quite complicit.

    These women should all go and sue the church for back wages and you should go and educate yourself or back under your bridge, whichever comes first.


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  • #67
    wolfpawnat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    JonJoeDali wrote: »
    Actually, the sooner people realise that the "victims" are only interested in their own pockets, the better.

    I have yet to see one example of an abuse survivor in the last five years who has not received a large compensation payout.

    Those who have already been compensated (sometimes 20 years ago) see the sums on offer today and are jealous that they didn't get as much. There's a lot of that kind of stuff going on at the moment. The compensation gravy train is coming to an end and people are clambouring over themselves to keep the wheels turning.


    I have a member of my family who was in state care during the worst part of it. He hasn't looked for a penny. And when you say the word Artane you see a look in his eyes that is chilling. He doesn't want their money, he doesn't think it would make up for all that happened!

    But other people have the right to look for it! Hit the church the only place they care about.......their pockets!


  • #68
    senordingdong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    myflipflops wrote: »
    Sue the Cathloic Church. If they say they have no money then tell them to sell some of the huge amount of expensive real estate they own. That church at the crossroads in Donnybrook must be worth a few quid.

    THis helps in 2 ways:

    1. Abuse victime are compensated.

    2. The church has less money and therefore less power and influence and is less able to inflict it's will on innocent people. It spent enough time f**king up the country - time to give something back folks.

    I'd love to see that happen, but not sure that it's possible.
    Surely it would have been approached by now.


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