Nothing has changed - they are still taking the pee out of the public!

Biggins · 10-10-2010 11:06PM #1

Nothing has changed - they are still taking the pee out of the public!
While they were actually OFF on their holidays from the Dail, our TD's on ALL sides racked up millions in expense claims!

With a joke of a clock-in system at the Dail (they don't have to clock out!!!) and others can clock in for an another - its a further insult to the intelligence to the Irish people!

They are 'living in a parallel universe' and lack 'moral authority', says leading economist
THE nation's TDs received over €2.3m in expenses payments between June and September, despite the Dail's 12-week break, the Sunday Independent can reveal.
Figures published by the Houses of the Oireachtas showed that between the beginning of June and the end of September, members claimed €2,303,138, in total, between them -- even though the Dail rose on July 8 and only returned on September 29. The figures also showed that despite there being no committee hearings in August, as well as no Dail sittings, the 163 members of the lower house claimed €575,000 in expenses during the month.

...Mr Sheehan recently resigned as his party's deputy spokesman on agriculture, after the Sunday Independent revealed that he was involved in a drunken incident with a female garda who claimed he threatened her.
"I have no comment other than to say I am the furthest TD from the Dail and the closest to the White House. You would want to cop on. . ."

The next two highest claimants were independent Jackie Healy Rae and Fine Gael's Dinny McGinley, who each received €20,932 in expenses payments. Both face round trips of over 700kms from their homes to the Dail. (Even though it was closed!!!)

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/tds-euro23m-in-summer-expenses-2372912.html

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A nice wad of money to claim (On top of already MASSIVE wages) for ones holidays!

Joey the lips · 10-10-2010 11:12PM

Yes i have to say i read this today and it pee;d me off. I can accept like teachers they get paid when off but to actually get expenses etc... It seems to me these people see there wages as a basic and expenses as commission.

I really cannot see a need any more for a upper house I actually think we should do away with the senate....

The sad thing about these expenses is fine gael cant even complain as they are listed as the highest.

galwayrush · 10-10-2010 11:13PM

Name and Shame . I hope people take note of things like this and not ever vote for the cheating scumbags again. Is that too much to ask?

starbelgrade · 10-10-2010 11:14PM

Ah come on Biggins. You don't actually expect them to pay for their foreign holidays out of their own pockets, do you?

Guy:Incognito · 10-10-2010 11:14PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Name and Shame . I hope people take note of things like this and not ever vote for the cheating scumbags again. Is that too much to ask?

Name and Shame? It was all the parties so theres no one left to vote for

th3 s1aught3r · 10-10-2010 11:16PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Name and Shame . I hope people take note of things like this and not ever vote for the cheating scumbags again. Is that too much to ask?

I think the Sunday Indo had a list of some of the perpetrators
Apparently that Kerry cap wearing gombeen had a load of expenses

Biggins · 10-10-2010 11:18PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Ah come on Biggins. You don't actually expect them to pay for their foreign holidays out of their own pockets, do you?

True, we still have one non-tax compliant sod (Bertie) in the Dail and another who though he could fly between his home in Ireland, London, Nice, Cannes Film Festival and the English races while supposedly doing his job in the Dail ...and thats only two!

starbelgrade · 10-10-2010 11:18PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Name and Shame . I hope people take note of things like this and not ever vote for the cheating scumbags again. Is that too much to ask?

All expenses taken by members of the Dail & Seanad are now published monthly on the Oireachtas website. Most of them are still unvouched for.

Biggins · 10-10-2010 11:18PM

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

I think the Sunday Indo had a list of some of the perpetrators
Apparently that Kerry cap wearing gombeen had a load of expenses

Right-hand side!
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galwayrush · 10-10-2010 11:20PM

Stekelly wrote: »

Name and Shame? It was all the parties so theres no one left to vote for

Time for something new then. Honestly, i doubt if things will ever change, too many gob****e sheep will vote for the incompetent cheats anyways.

Guy:Incognito · 10-10-2010 11:22PM

At least PJ Sheehan is being consistant: (from the article about him and the Garda)

"After emerging, last year, as the TD claiming the largest amount of expenses, PJ Sheehan said, “somebody has to come out on top of the list.”

He's a busy man, Gards wont threaten themselves

Guy:Incognito · 10-10-2010 11:25PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Time for something new then. .

Do you honestly think any new party wont be claiming expenses like this? It's possible they might not for a few years while running on the moral high ground ticket but once they settle in to life in politics, normal service will resume.

th3 s1aught3r · 10-10-2010 11:26PM

ARE THESE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR WITH RECEIPTS ?

gizmo · 10-10-2010 11:28PM

I'm guessing they're just including the receipts from every time they buy petrol. Nothing else could explain how their expenses during the Dail break could match those when it's in session.

orourkeda · 10-10-2010 11:31PM

I admire their stones (in the metaphorical sense of course)

You just have to stand back and applaud their complete inhibition when it comes to the stroke. Truly awe inspiring.

Revolution9 · 10-10-2010 11:31PM

Actually suprised they're brave enough to do this in the midst of our crumbling economy and the general anger directed at them from the public everyday.

The wonders never cease with these crooks.

starbelgrade · 10-10-2010 11:33PM

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

ARE THESE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR WITH RECEIPTS ?

Yes.

Biggins · 10-10-2010 11:35PM

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

ARE THESE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR WITH RECEIPTS ?

They are allowed to claim with having to produce receipts up to a certain figure.
Once they go over that figure, supposedly they have to produce the paperwork - like I would honestly trust their paperwork anyway is Calley is anything to go by!

I suspect that O'Rea and co have just managed to claim just by coincidence :rolleyes: just under the proper amount before they are supposed to produce the supposed receipts.

They know how to play the game well in the Dail when it come to their own ways of raking it in.

Biggins · 10-10-2010 11:40PM

A new travel and accommodation allowance of €12,000 for Dublin TDs to almost €38,000 for those furthest away will be paid.
It will be sanctioned if attendance is 80% or more of the 150 required days in Leinster House.
(BUT IF IT's CLOSED - you can still claim for being there!!!)

A second public representative allowance will be paid for expenses such as constituency offices, mobile phones, home telephones, newspaper advertising, leaflets, newsletters, relevant conferences and other engagements.

Varying levels apply for Senators, TDs and Ministers - but a TD can get €15,000 a year unvouched and audit free or up to €25,700 vouched with receipts and the risk of an audit.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/new-rules-for-tds-expenses-unveiled-445660.html#ixzz11zxavuRc

starbelgrade · 10-10-2010 11:40PM

Biggins wrote: »

They are allowed to claim with having to produce receipts up to a certain figure.
Once they go over that figure, supposedly they have to produce the paperwork

Even those who go for unvouched expenses have to have their receipts in order, in case they are audited, or hell freezes over, whichever comes first.

th3 s1aught3r · 10-10-2010 11:43PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Even those who go for unvouched expenses have to have their receipts in order, in case they are audited, or hell freezes over, whichever comes first.

Can I see the receipts ?
I would love to know what Jackie Healey Rae spent 20k on expenses during the summer, WHILE THE DAIL WAS CLOSED

starbelgrade · 10-10-2010 11:43PM

crixus veritas wrote: »

For those of you near Cork at the time or for those who might take the initiative from the people down South, a response from the People is coming:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=133903089991951

Woo hoo!! A Facebook protest page. That'll sort the bastards out.

Tilt Gone · 10-10-2010 11:44PM

orourkeda wrote: »

I admire their stones (in the metaphorical sense of course)

You just have to stand back and applaud their complete inhibition when it comes to the stroke. Truly awe inspiring.

Standing back and admiring these gob****es is what has us in this mess in the first place. thank you very much for your contribution to the running of the country.

Biggins · 10-10-2010 11:44PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Even those who go for unvouched expenses have to have their receipts in order, in case they are audited, or hell freezes over, whichever comes first.

True. Sadly as we have seen, paperwork can be dodgy and/or questionable at times.
they know how to walk the legal boundary lines as Cally and Co in the Senate has and still is, showing.

To get back to the paper report... claiming for attending Dublin Dail even when closed???

starbelgrade · 10-10-2010 11:44PM

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

Can I see the receipts ?
I would love to know what Jackie Healey Rae spent 20k on expenses during the summer, WHILE THE DAIL WAS CLOSED

Tweed caps.

MagicMarker · 10-10-2010 11:44PM

I fúcking hate this country.

starbelgrade · 10-10-2010 11:48PM

The difference between Irish people & Irish politicians

Joe Soap "Holidays are expensive"

Irish TD "Holidays are expenses"

Biggins · 10-10-2010 11:49PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

The difference between Irish people & Irish politicians

Joe Soap "Holidays are expensive"

Irish TD "Holidays are expenses"

Well said!
Short and to the point!

TimTim · 10-10-2010 11:51PM

Revolution9 wrote: »

Actually suprised they're brave enough to do this in the midst of our crumbling economy and the general anger directed at them from the public everyday.

The wonders never cease with these crooks.

Make hay while the sun shines. Although I suspect we will end up re-electing large percentage of these people back in.

Biggins · 10-10-2010 11:54PM

Well if the the IMF has to come into this country and as part of its mandate, see corruption is more seriously looked at, I will be damn pointing them towards one bloody building in Dublin!

It beggers belief what they are getting away with! It really does!
...And then they tell us YOU AND I HAVE TO CUT BACK again and again and again and again ...for the next four years!!!

Chorizo · 10-10-2010 11:55PM

So wait. If I scammed 20k from the country what would happen?

Nothing has changed - they are still taking the pee out of the public!

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