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Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Are you going on Tuohy's present form or last year's form prior to his injury?
    You do realise he hasn't played so far this season!

    Last year's form. He was the form second row in the country last season.

    He's back in the team now, and the games are a fair bit away yet. If he plays like he did last year I don't think Ryan should be near the team. If he comes back sluggish then I could see Ryan picked ahead of him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭thehighground


    Last year's form. He was the form second row in the country last season.

    He's back in the team now, and the games are a fair bit away yet. If he plays like he did last year I don't think Ryan should be near the team. If he comes back sluggish then I could see Ryan picked ahead of him.

    If he was the form 2nd row last season, its amazing he didn't make the 6Ns 22 - particulary with 2nd row injuries. And Ulster were struggling pretty badly towards the end of last season.

    He did well against the Maori - but Ryan did very well against the ABs in Thomond!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    If he was the form 2nd row last season, its amazing he didn't make the 6Ns 22 - particulary with 2nd row injuries. And Ulster were struggling pretty badly towards the end of last season.

    He did well against the Maori - but Ryan did very well against the ABs in Thomond!

    It's my opinion that he was the form 2nd Row. I was going mad on here when he was left out of Irish squads last year. I wouldn't have him ahead of POC, DOC or Cullen but I've always been a very big fan of his. He was Ulster's best player (along with Boss arguably) when they were playing well and kept up the level of performance when they dropped away.

    He was eventually rewarded during the summer. Hopefully now he's got his foot in the door he'll be looked to more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    CiaranMT wrote: »
    I can understand the first three, but Caldwell? Really? He went backwards last year, if anything.

    He's playing savage since the last month of last season and has continued on this year. Has everything Ryan has but is just as inconsistent unfortunately. Keep an eye on him against Connacht he's cut out all the stupid penalties.

    Personally I don't rate Touhy as highly as some. He's great in the lose and with ball in hand but needs a lot of work on his primary tasks. Has all the tools though so hopefully he'll improve. I was more impressed with EOD in the summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Rebel Boy


    I'm looking for tickets for Munsters Heineken Cup match on Sat Oct 16th. Would anyone know how I could get a few tickets? Would greatly appreciate it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭andrewdcs


    Rebel Boy wrote: »
    I'm looking for tickets for Munsters Heineken Cup match on Sat Oct 16th. Would anyone know how I could get a few tickets? Would greatly appreciate it.

    Go to the London Irish site, they are on general sale now I'm pretty sure.



    In other news Mafi has been cited twice for Saturdays game. His 'tackle' on D'Arcy was bad but never saw any punches?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭Risteard


    andrewdcs wrote: »
    Go to the London Irish site, they are on general sale now I'm pretty sure.



    In other news Mafi has been cited twice for Saturdays game. His 'tackle' on D'Arcy was bad but never saw any punches?

    That citing was for the forearm to D'arcy.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    Wonder if Cian Healy will get a citing also then.
    Clearly saw him throwing a slap at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    castie wrote: »
    Wonder if Cian Healy will get a citing also then.
    Clearly saw him throwing a slap at least.

    If throwing a slap gets you a citing then Quinlan would be attending hearings every week.

    Unless you're equating whatever Healy did to what Mafi did. Which would be insane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Mafi deserves to be cited. Hes reckless and will do somebody alot of damage one of these days if he's not controlled.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    He'll miss the LI game at least, the ML have to give him some sort of ban. Honestly, it would suit Irish rugby more if he wasn't available. An Irish player would get in somewhere if he is missing. Foreigners should really only be brought in if they can add something to the first XV that isn't available from the Irish pool. That's why Mafi isn't needed.

    Assuming Earls isn't back, we have a number of options.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Deasy at 12 and Tuitupou at 13 or Tuitupou at 12 and Barnes at 13. Retain Murphy on the wing. We gotta start giving youngsters exposure to see if they are made of the right stuff. Certainly the likes of Mapusua will test them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    The problem I see is that they can play exactly the same as they have all season and still beat LI who are flashy but porous. I don't have a lot of faith in McGahan and I expect him to stick to the conservative game.

    Murphy/Wawrick/Howlett is a very useful back 3 and its a shame they're used primarily to defend/chase. Tuitupou is an out and out 12. I think Earls would thrive off him myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    He'll miss the LI game at least, the ML have to give him some sort of ban. Honestly, it would suit Irish rugby more if he wasn't available. An Irish player would get in somewhere if he is missing. Foreigners should really only be brought in if they can add something to the first XV that isn't available from the Irish pool. That's why Mafi isn't needed.

    Assuming Earls isn't back, we have a number of options.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Deasy at 12 and Tuitupou at 13 or Tuitupou at 12 and Barnes at 13. Retain Murphy on the wing. We gotta start giving youngsters exposure to see if they are made of the right stuff. Certainly the likes of Mapusua will test them.

    Completely forgot Deasy. Would much rather see him in the team than Mafi, would benefit Munster/Ireland far more in the long term


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Yeah LI are porous but they have a penchant for getting tries and Mapusua is a very underrated player.

    I agree Tuitupou is a 12. We'll need to see a bit more from him in attack though. He has all the defensive capabilities. Incidentally phat who would you play with him at centre assuming Earls and Mafi are unavailable?

    Vital that we get Buckley back. MOD has a case of getting a start, I was very impressed with him when he came on at the weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Thomond my friend you are losing your marbles if you think Mafi isn't a loss to us, personally I couldn't give a toss about developing irish players a week before a Heineken Cup campaign begins.
    We can do that against Treviso when we will be resting our Irish players, we need everyone available for the big games i.e Heineken Cup. A suspension though justified could well b a disaster for us now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Mafi IS no loss. He's been no loss for 18 months.

    He is hotheaded and an accident waiting to happen (indeed he is a recurring accident).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    Yeah LI are porous but they have a penchant for getting tries and Mapusua is a very underrated player.

    I agree Tuitupou is a 12. We'll need to see a bit more from him in attack though. He has all the defensive capabilities. Incidentally phat who would you play with him at centre assuming Earls and Mafi are unavailable?

    Vital that we get Buckley back. MOD has a case of getting a start, I was very impressed with him when he came on at the weekend.

    LI can score tries against weak teams but revert to a grunt game against the better ones. I don't think they have the forwards to beat Munster to be honest.

    Mapusua isn't underrated by anyone, though Sky over hype him, you know what you get with him though and there should be some big clashes between him and Tuiptupou.

    Sorry it must seem like I'm disagreeing with you on every thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    LI can score tries against weak teams but revert to a grunt game against the better ones. I don't think they have the forwards to beat Munster to be honest.

    Mapusua isn't underrated by anyone, though Sky over hype him, you know what you get with him though and there should be some big clashes between him and Tuiptupou.

    Sorry it must seem like I'm disagreeing with you on every thread.

    Don't worry about disagreeing, if it's your opinion it's your opinion! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    LI can score tries against weak teams but revert to a grunt game against the better ones. I don't think they have the forwards to beat Munster to be honest.

    Mapusua isn't underrated by anyone, though Sky over hype him, you know what you get with him though and there should be some big clashes between him and Tuiptupou.

    Sorry it must seem like I'm disagreeing with you on every thread.

    Bob Casey is one of the most overrated forwards around. Nick Kennedy is great but apart from him, Danaher and Dermody I think their forwards are a real weakness.

    Could be a good day for Munster to arm wrestle LI out of the game and allow ROG to do that one thing he does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    Bob Casey is one of the most overrated forwards around. Nick Kennedy is great but apart from him, Danaher and Dermody I think their forwards are a real weakness.

    Could be a good day for Munster to arm wrestle LI out of the game and allow ROG to do that one thing he does.

    I agree and when the tries don't come easily for them they bring on Leinsters favourite opposition 10 and tighten up. Can see Munster winning this fairly comfortably.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Rebel Boy


    andrewdcs wrote: »
    Go to the London Irish site, they are on general sale now I'm pretty sure.



    In other news Mafi has been cited twice for Saturdays game. His 'tackle' on D'Arcy was bad but never saw any punches?

    Its for the Toulon game on October 16th. London Irish is on the 9th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭theKramer




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭outwest


    im surprised by this,

    hopefully these kind of bans are handed out to all players who get cited,

    hopefully mafi learns from this and cuts out them tackles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    He can't complain with that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Jigga


    He can't complain with that.
    Yes he can, 7 weeks ban is very harsh. When he got kicked in the face his assailant only got a 2 week ban but I suppose he was Irish qualified :rolleyes:.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭outwest


    mafi has a record for dirty play, sexton got his ban,

    its a fair result,

    hopefully they will show some consistentsy with other citings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    It's because he's NIQ of course, I guarantee that a current international would get far less and would definitely be available for the AIs ala John Hayes last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 26,591 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Yes, I think 7 weeks is longer than an Irish qualified player would get. The decision needs to be taking away from the home unions to dish out the punsihment.

    Overall, I hope it teaches him a lesson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    It's because he's NIQ of course, I guarantee that a current international would get far less and would definitely be available for the AIs ala John Hayes last year.

    Which is an indictment of the ban an international would get and nothing else, what Mafi did was easily worth 7 weeks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Please do not turn this into some tit for tat petty provincial pissing contest.


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