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Gardai prepare plan for Queen's arrival

  • 03-10-2010 7:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Johnny Utah


    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gardai-prepare-plan-for-queens-arrival-2362710.html


    By JIM CUSACK

    Sunday October 03 2010







    GARDAI are preparing for their biggest security operation since the visit of Pope John Paul for Queen Elizabeth II's visit next year.

    The date of the visit is not known but high-level discussions between British security services, police and the Garda Siochana have taken place.

    The Queen's visit has been preliminarily scheduled to mark the completion of the peace process and establishment of the power-sharing assembly at Stormont.

    The final leg of the transfer of powers over policing and justice took place in March, and it had been agreed by both governments that following this there would be a historic first visit by the British monarch to mark the completion of the settlement after more than 30 years of Troubles in Northern Ireland.

    There has been persistent speculation about the visit but it has only now emerged that gardai have been instructed to prepare for the massive operation to ensure the visit goes off efficiently and peacefully.

    The visit will also mark the centenary of the last royal visit to Ireland, that of the Queen's grandfather, King George V, in 1911.

    Planning has already begun under Commissioner Fachtna Murphy, whose retirement, originally due in December, is to be deferred so as to ensure continuity of management of the event.

    Unlike the Papal visit in September 1979, the visit of a British monarch carries potentially serious security risks from republican terror groups. The dissident republican groups are, however, riven with internal disputes both north and south of the Border.

    - JIM CUSACK

    Sunday Independent










    Looks like the Queen will be paying us a visit in 2011. Is it right that we should have to pay for a massive security operation for this visit when our country is struggling financially?


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  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    Queen have been awful since Freddie died.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    If the Pope visited would you complain?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Here we go again.......:pac::pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭Taco Corp


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Here we go again.......:pac::pac:

    Yeah, paying for something we can't afford and don't really want


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Superbus wrote: »
    Queen have been awful since Freddie died.


    :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    I understand that we can't scupper a visit without looking like backward-looking tw*ts, but I don't think the entertainment value of the typical insults her husband (assuming he tags along) will throw about is worth the cash.

    She's England's parasite, let them foot the bill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,459 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    As a country who is expecting the arrival of a foreign diplomat(especially one such as the Queen) we are expected to provide security for the benefit of said person. While she will most likely be accomanied by her own security it's only fitting that we provide our own for her as well.

    Is it right, well I don't know but I reckon it's for the best. There are still a lot of people over here who still hold grudges, is it enough to threaten her safety? well time will tell.
    Queen have been awful since Freddie died.

    It's not really Queen anymore though is it? it's just Brian May and Roger Taylor, along with Paul Rogers now. For me Queen will always be Mercury, May, Taylor and Deacon and nothing else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    She can stay the **** away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    I hope the Gardai call on this guy for advice


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,165 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Superbus wrote: »
    Queen have been awful since Freddie died.
    galwayrush wrote: »
    Here we go again.......:pac::pac:

    Yep, we certainly do.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    RonMexico wrote: »
    I hope the Gardai call on this guy for advice

    Shirley you're not serious?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Cool, I hope they do a raffle where 1 citizen of the state randomly gets to have dinner with her. If I was picked I'd use a dessert spoon to eat soup!!!

    That'd show her!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    "Gardai draught massive overtime plan to compensate for fall in rental income"


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    I don't mind if she comes over if she pays for it. It's a financial issue at this point.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    JohnathanM wrote: »
    I understand that we can't scupper a visit without looking like backward-looking tw*ts...

    We can just crouch down under the sofa when she calls. she'll get tired eventually. just wait for her to fuck off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    I know the preparing I would do for the old cnut...:mad::mad::mad:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    This is gonna be excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Nolanger wrote: »
    If the Pope visited would you complain?

    I am sure many would. You may have missed some of the headlines on the news over the last while.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    We could kidnap her for a large ransom.

    Oh wait Charlie wouldn't agree to pay it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    bryaner wrote: »
    Let her visit, but she has to be face fcuked by every man in the country.

    Why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    If it means the English Queen comes here, peace has been TOO high a price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Snakeblood wrote: »
    I don't mind if she comes over if she pays for it. It's a financial issue at this point.

    So what's the alternative? Make the British monarchy pay our police force to cover her visit.. or give the Gardai the day off and allow her to bring British officers with her to keep rule while she's here? I doubt those things would go down well either tbh!

    I'd rather she didn't visit.. don't see much point in it other than for posterity and a sign of how we've moved on. Ironic when it's likely to stir up disagreement really. She is not a political figure, and her visit should not be a state event


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Expect a lot of protests etc, the last thing this country needs is to be spending money for that woman to visit here.

    I know I will protest that visit, one of the few things I feel strong enough about to actually get me off the couch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭Sonz


    Wonder will the cement lorry pay a visit. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭Chaotic_Forces


    Annoying that we have to pay but other than that who gives a fu*k?

    Is she demanding that we give up the Republic to the UK? It's a fu*king visit. It's not as if she's planning on bombing us or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    Annoying that we have to pay but other than that who gives a fu*k?

    Is she demanding that we give up the Republic to the UK? It's a fu*king visit. It's not as if she's planning on bombing us or something.

    That's what she wants you to think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭Chaotic_Forces


    Superbus wrote: »
    That's what she wants you to think.

    Shush! I was told I'd get to stay on the dole if I tried to convince people she was purely here not to bomb us.:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Expect a lot of protests etc, the last thing this country needs is to be spending money for that woman to visit here. .

    I've a son in the Defence Dept in the UK, refused to raise the Union Jack over thier own building in London, where he was a new employee [porter]. They gave him different duties.

    In Ireland, totally stuff the Queen, don't ANYONE turn up, deserted Ireland policy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    Looks like the Queen will be paying us a visit in 2011.

    And what "Queen" would that be? The one and only "Queen" on the planet? Is this the same "Queen" that Dutch people speak of? That Norwegians speak of? That Spaniards speak of?

    Let me guess: of all these foreign monarch you mean the British queen when you say "the Queen"? Are you Irish, or merely Oirish?

    Unsurprisingly given this mentality your source is the most trashiest pro-British/anti-Irish rag in all of the Oirish media (including The Sun and The News of the World), the Sunday Independent. Horrendous shít altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    And what "Queen" would that be? The one and only "Queen" on the planet? Is this the same "Queen" that Dutch people speak of? That Norwegians speak of? That Spaniards speak of?

    Let me guess: of all these foreign monarch you mean the British queen when you say "the Queen"? Are you Irish, or merely Oirish?

    Unsurprisingly given this mentality your source is the most trashiest pro-British/anti-Irish rag in all of the Oirish media (including The Sun and The News of the World), the Sunday Independent. Horrendous shít altogether.

    Jaysus thats some tirade of dung..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭Chaotic_Forces


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    And what "Queen" would that be? The one and only "Queen" on the planet? Is this the same "Queen" that Dutch people speak of? That Norwegians speak of? That Spaniards speak of?

    Let me guess: of all these foreign monarch you mean the British queen when you say "the Queen"? Are you Irish, or merely Oirish?

    Unsurprisingly given this mentality your source is the most trashiest pro-British/anti-Irish rag in all of the Oirish media (including The Sun and The News of the World), the Sunday Independent. Horrendous shít altogether.

    When we say "the Queen" it's obvious who we mean, at least if you were from Ireland anyway...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    bryaner wrote: »
    Jaysus thats some tirade of dung..

    I suspect you've fallen in some, and your eyes are clouded. Perhaps?

    You're entitled to an opinion, what's yours? Exactly and coherently like. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    gbee wrote: »
    I suspect you've fallen in some, and your eyes are clouded. Perhaps?

    You're entitled to an opinion, what's yours? Exactly and coherently like. Thanks.

    More muck!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 354 ✭✭srfc19


    Snakeblood wrote: »
    I don't mind if she comes over if she pays for it. It's a financial issue at this point.

    Since when do people have to pay for their own holidays, thats just crazy talk!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    I'm not saying this from a nationalist point of view. But why are we paying for a visit we don't want, that we all know will cause trouble.

    The unionist parade in 06 caused riots, Blair's book signing nearly ended in the same. This visit is just going to cause trouble, and it's absolutely ****ing ridiculous to think it wont.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    RMD wrote: »
    This visit is just going to cause trouble, and it's absolutely ****ing ridiculous to think it wont.

    I'm a suspicious sort and I can't help wondering if that's half the point. We don't have her, trouble - they're living in the past. We do have her, trouble - bunch of animals. We have to have her, and just hope people keep themselves under enough control to just not bother showing up. That would certainly be the best thing. Polite, cordial and uneventful.

    What I would like to know, given that paranoia, is who's idea it was.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    bryaner wrote: »
    Jaysus thats some tirade of dung..

    When I want your opinion I'll tell you it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Not only am I from Ireland but I am Irish and "the Queen" would never occur in a real life conversation in my part of Ireland. Then again I'm not a cultureless Dublin knacker who is obsessed with the British garrison game or who'd be undereducated enough to buy any newspaper owned by Sir Anthony O Reilly with contributors such as Eoghan Harris, Ruth Dudley Edwards and Kevin Myers.

    "The Queen" my arse. Plebs.

    What part of Ireland are you from?

    I'd put a lot of money on it if you went throughout Ireland and asked who the "Queen" is, you'd be told the Queen of Britain. It's not the Irish trying to imitate British culture, it's simply just who most would associate the word Queen with.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Wonder if the guards will have to restrain Mr Myers from frantically humping her leg like a chihuahua, or will he exercise restraint?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Not only am I from Ireland but I am Irish and "the Queen" would never occur in a real life conversation in my part of Ireland. Then again I'm not a cultureless Dublin knacker who is obsessed with the British garrison game or who'd be undereducated enough to buy any newspaper owned by Sir Anthony O Reilly with contributors such as Eoghan Harris, Ruth Dudley Edwards and Kevin Myers.

    "The Queen" my arse. Plebs.

    Normal Cork rebel county blah blah..................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Not only am I from Ireland but I am Irish and "the Queen" would never occur in a real life conversation in my part of Ireland. Then again I'm not a cultureless Dublin knacker who is obsessed with the British garrison game or who'd be undereducated enough to buy any newspaper owned by Sir Anthony O Reilly with contributors such as Eoghan Harris, Ruth Dudley Edwards and Kevin Myers.

    "The Queen" my arse. Plebs.

    You sing the national anthem when you **** dont you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    That woman is not THE Queen but merely "a queen", just like if I refer to "The president" I will be talking about OUR president and not say, Obama.


    I wonder will the monarch in question will care to apologize for the barbaric acts carried out in her name by her armed forces on this island? Maybe she would like to strip those paras of the honors she gave them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Dostoevsky


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    That woman is not THE Queen but merely "a queen", just like if I refer to "The president" I will be talking about OUR president and not say, Obama.

    + 1.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    I wonder will the monarch in question will care to apologize for the barbaric acts carried out in her name by her armed forces on this island? Maybe she would like to strip those paras of the honors she gave them?

    AFAIK she doesn't have the authority to do those things. She's just a very, very expensive figurehead. They keep her around so they don't need to move to a presidential system and can keep things chugging along as they are. A useful idiot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Jamiekelly


    The Queen and Brian Cowen in the same room?
    Wheres Lee Harvey Oswald when ya need him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭FarmerGreen


    The best way to deal with it is with a snub.

    When she goes out to 'meet the people' there aren't any.
    Not one.
    If you see it coming, turn your back and walk away.
    The worst insult you can give to people like that is ignoring them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    Jamiekelly wrote: »
    The Queen and Brian Cowen in the same room?
    Wheres Lee Harvey Oswald when ya need him?

    Is her mum still alive? Now her and Cowen in a room together would be something... no naked flames.


  • Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭_sparkie_


    gbee wrote: »
    I've a son in the Defence Dept in the UK, refused to raise the Union Jack over thier own building in London, where he was a new employee [porter]. They gave him different duties.

    if he has a problem with the union jack then why did he get a job that pretty much has the closest job description to 'union jack flag raiser'. also, way to make friends in the office as the new guy.


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