"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

irishbucsfan · 30-09-2010 1:00pm

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

Are you taping it? Will an mp3 be available? PLEASE SAY YES! :D:D

Edit: I'm an idiot, it's a radio station

The interview will be available after. Although, I'm not sure in what format, possibly a stream from the site itself.

sponsoredwalk · 30-09-2010 1:03pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

The interview will be available after. Although, I'm not sure in what format, possibly a stream from the site itself.

Yeah I've got it going and the presenter said he'd be on later, terrible music
so far

irishbucsfan · 30-09-2010 1:19pm

darjeeling wrote: »

Is it not time to forget about Mr May? The story was once newsworthy due to the science minister's involvement. However that is now over, and May's book doesn't merit any further attention.

Maybe.

However, you must admit it will be interesting to hear what he has to say to Dr. Mariani

Improbable · 30-09-2010 1:21pm

I've had discussions with Stefano, he's part of the genetics team at UCD. Fairly nice guy but will tear May to shreds with regards to anything about biology/genetics/evolution.

robindch · 30-09-2010 1:52pm

Improbable wrote: »

Fairly nice guy but will tear May to shreds with regards to anything about biology/genetics/evolution.

Having thought otherwise previously, I now think it's a bad idea for qualified people to debate creationists. It's much better to put people like Hitchens, Dara O'Briain, Eddy Izzard etc up against them. The Department of Geography wouldn't send serious people out to debate flat-earthers.

Creationism is a similar joke and it should be treated as such.

BTW, scientists in the UK and the USA generally don't debate creationists for this very reason.

Improbable · 30-09-2010 1:58pm

I love Hitchens as well, he's a very eloquent and articulate man. But I'd rather try to raise awareness. You'll never convince May, but if there are still creationists in the audience, then maybe you get can through to the more logical ones.

smokingman · 30-09-2010 2:06pm

"I respect biology"

Improbable · 30-09-2010 2:06pm

He actually said "it's only a theory"... WOW!!!

sponsoredwalk · 30-09-2010 2:11pm

"I've read the books on it..." :pac:

Improbable · 30-09-2010 2:12pm

HAHA, half a penis, quarter of a vagina.

smokingman · 30-09-2010 2:13pm

"There are no half penises" Ah god this guy is hilarious!

sponsoredwalk · 30-09-2010 2:13pm

Improbable wrote: »

HAHA, half a penis, quarter of a vagina.

"Where did it come from?"
"I don't know, YOU SAID IT!"

:D:D

sponsoredwalk · 30-09-2010 2:15pm

Abiogenesis: That's a cop out? What a joke of a man...

Improbable · 30-09-2010 2:16pm

Wow, he's getting angry.

sponsoredwalk · 30-09-2010 2:17pm

Oh man, he's onto the holy bread

sponsoredwalk · 30-09-2010 2:22pm

"You will never collect it" Sounded very passionate when he said that
because it's true.

smokingman · 30-09-2010 2:23pm

10,000 euro lads, he said he'd offer it to anyone who proves evolution - where's that studio again?

Improbable · 30-09-2010 2:25pm

Biochemical evidence: "Orthologous proteins from different species. DONE"

sponsoredwalk · 30-09-2010 2:26pm

Goldfish? :eek:

smokingman · 30-09-2010 2:26pm

"A barnacle can change his penis"....bit fond of that word isn't he

Improbable · 30-09-2010 2:27pm

LOL, It's trillions of years old!!!! woo, go you!!!!

sponsoredwalk · 30-09-2010 2:30pm

Abiogenesis never happened :eek:

Improbable · 30-09-2010 2:31pm

This is so similiar to this thread and to the video that liamw posted earlier that it's scary!

sponsoredwalk · 30-09-2010 2:31pm

Improbable wrote: »

This is so similiar to this thread and to the video that liamw posted earlier that it's scary!

The predictive power of that video is so uncanny it's almost supernatural :eek:

irishbucsfan · 30-09-2010 2:32pm

The interview will be available ASAP, I'll leave a note here when it is. Thanks for listening

sponsoredwalk · 30-09-2010 2:35pm

He said that abiogenesis is a cop out because "life beget life".

Does he understand the logic of that foolish argument? Seriously?
The logical inference of that stupid thing he said is that life have
been alive forever. I mean, life must have been alive before the
earth formed if he is correct :pac: The earth formed around 4.6 billion
years ago after the previous star, of which our sun was just a part,
exploded and the remnants of that formed the solar system.
Apparently life survived that and was unrecognisable until around a
billion years after the earth began to form. Stunningly stupid...

Improbable · 30-09-2010 2:44pm

I loved the bit at the end where Stefano corrected him. "You, don't use logic and reason. That would be what I do." Class!

smokingman · 30-09-2010 2:49pm

Anyone notice JC hasn't posted today?
Hmmm, maybe he's driving away from a studio

liamw · 30-09-2010 2:55pm

lol just noticed the Tags on this thread

J C · 30-09-2010 8:10pm

House wrote: »

And you are missing our point.

Complex biological structures and organisms are not the product of chance. They are the product of beneficial mutations aided by natural selection. You have failed to discern this yet.

... and you are failing to appreciate the fact that the useless combinatorial space prevents a non-intelligently directed system from producing the 'beneficial changes' that NS could then select.

Evolutionism 'puts the cart before the horse' ... random mutation in tandem with NS is the equivalent to randomly hitting a lump of metal with a hammer and then hoping that a selection mechanism will produce a Ferrari ... you couldn't even produce a functional nut and bolt using such a system ...
and the amount of useless scrap produced would literally fill the Universe ... and you still wouldn't have even one functional hex nut!!
The problem with the theory of Evolution isn't the selection mechanism, Natural Selection ... it is the mechanism for providing anything useful for NS to select that is missing.

"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

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