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Icelandic EX-PM Referred to Court

  • 29-09-2010 09:42AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭


    The Icelandic Parliament has sent Former PM Geir Haarde to court to answer charge for criminal neglect over the banking crisis in Iceland.

    Amazing the difference between Iceland and here. Just think if Bertie Ahern was Icelandic he would be in the dock :pac: and probably Cowen as well.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11432362


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭phill106


    While i would love if someone was found criminally responsible, I would be much happier if someone was found financially responsible.
    None of this signing off assets to partners rubbish either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    iceland sounds like a s'hithole


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    He's only answering charges. We'll have to wait to see how things pan out. Even if he's found guilty it will only serve to satisfy the icelandic peoples need for revenge and will not solve any of their problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    orourkeda wrote: »
    He's only answering charges. We'll have to wait to see how things pan out. Even if he's found guilty it will only serve to satisfy the icelandic peoples need for revenge and will not solve any of their problems.


    Personally I'm always up for a bit of revenge.


    The problems need to be solved but revenge is good and if criminal neglect took place well then.......


    From that Freefall programme it seems that the government barely took an interest in the banking sector.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    orourkeda wrote: »
    He's only answering charges. We'll have to wait to see how things pan out. Even if he's found guilty it will only serve to satisfy the icelandic peoples need for revenge and will not solve any of their problems.

    What about also communicating to other politicians that corruption and negligence won't go unchecked? We could do with some of that ourselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Its fairly dangerous in a democracy.

    Every politician will make some mistake(s) in a 4/5 term of government.
    If the incoming government, as a matter of course, looks to press neglect or criminal charges against the preceding government, then it can quickly turn into tit-for-tat nonsense.

    But it also gets to the stage where in order to avoid it, the current government does everything in their power to stay in power. You end up with Africa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Its fairly dangerous in a democracy.

    Every politician will make some mistake(s) in a 4/5 term of government.
    If the incoming government, as a matter of course, looks to press neglect or criminal charges against the preceding government, then it can quickly turn into tit-for-tat nonsense.

    But it also gets to the stage where in order to avoid it, the current government does everything in their power to stay in power. You end up with Africa.

    With lions and elephants. Brilliant. :D

    But what is the point of transparency and accountability in politics then? Not that there is much. We'd be much better off with a benevolent monarchy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0929/iceland.html
    Iceland's parliament has voted to bring court charges for negligence against former Prime Minister Geir Haarde, who led the country during events leading up to its banking collapse in 2008.

    The parliament declined to press charges against the former foreign and finance ministers, Ingibjorg Solrun Gisladottir and Arni Mathiesen, as well as former Business Minister Bjorgvin Sigurdsson.

    A court hearing would mean the first sitting of the Landsdomur, a special chamber set up in 1905 to try government ministers accused of crimes.

    AdvertisementThe next step is that parliament will appoint a special prosecutor who will bring the charges against Mr Haarde before the court.

    Mr Haarde was the first political leader to lose power as a direct result of the global financial crisis when his coalition collapsed after protests.

    The former prime minister, who apologised in 2009 for being partly responsible for the events leading up to the banking collapse, told Icelandic broadcaster RUV that parliament's decision was 'difficult and hard to bear'.

    Mr Haarde, 59, pointed out that two current government ministers - Prime Minister Johanna Sigurdardottir and Foreign Minister Ossur Skarphedinsson - previously held seats in his coalition cabinet.

    The parliamentary vote was close, with 33 members voting to proceed with the charges and 30 voting against.

    Iceland's three main banks collapsed in late 2008 under a mountain of debt built up during a decade of overseas expansion, sending the economy into a tailspin and investors running.

    The country remains in deep recession and cut off from overseas capital markets while it tries to recover from the banking crisis with help from the International Monetary Fund and its Nordic neighbours.

    Mr Haarde was prime minister from 2006 to 2009 when the country's high-flying banks entered the final stages of an aggressive expansion and was blamed by many Icelanders for not averting financial meltdown.

    The coalition government comprising his Independence Party and the Social Democrats fell in early 2009 in the face of sometimes violent protests in the North Atlantic island country, and his party lost power in snap elections.

    Efforts to assign blame for the economic collapse have been under way since then and in April this year, an official investigation accused Mr Haarde, central bank head David Oddsson and other former officials of gross negligence.

    Investigators said authorities should have reacted when Iceland's main banks - Kaupthing, Glitnir and Landsbanki - grew to eventually dwarf the island's economy, setting the stage for the meltdown at the height of the global financial crisis.

    I wonder what the likelihood of taking such actions here would be....or are we all doomed to just run cement trucks at the Dáil?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    Ild say the Icelandic PM was a proper Geyser


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭phill106




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Yep, I saw, within two minutes of each other.
    But there's no mechanism to allow me delete it.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Merged


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    the current government does everything in their power to stay in power. You end up with Africa Ireland.

    FYP :cool:

    It'd never happen here, the cronyism is embedded in the DNA of this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Social Disorder


    Nothing will happen. Similar to Bertie's tribunal.

    Lots of noise and nothing done, atleast it will satisfy peoples need to shake their fist at something for a while.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    iceland sounds like a s'hithole

    You've obviously never been there. It's landscapes are some of the most stunning places on earth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    You've obviously never been there. It's landscapes are some of the most stunning places on earth.

    I went there for a football match a few years ago for about three days. The place was stunning. I was so taken with it that I returned the next year for two weeks. We flew to Reykjavik and then flew North to Akureyri. After that we slowly drove south back to the capital in a small Nissan Micra (everybody else had huge and I mean huge jeeps). Iceland is the most beautiful, astounding, even hell-like in places you will come across. You can drive for hours along dust roads and not meet anybody with steam rising from the ground and massive waterfalls thundering down from the mountains beside you. Its like nowhere else on earth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    iceland sounds like a s'hithole

    Well, obviously anywhere would pale in comparison to the heart-stopping splendour of Offaly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 stanislaw


    thats what we should be doing here !!

    from bertie and brian and all the ceo's and regulators who did'nt do their jobs properly, there's been no sanctions or penalties paid by any of them. sure, some of them lost their jobs, but they all retire very wealthy.
    and in most cases are probably most likely to appear on some board or other in the future on another gravy train.

    a bit of punishment would be very welcome, if only to make regular people feel better because we're going to be paying for this for a very long time !!

    and what would'nt you give to see bertie and co. behind bars for a few years


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