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Sun storm to hit Earth with 'force of 100 bombs'

  • 21-09-2010 04:27PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    AFTER 10 years of comparative slumber, the sun is waking up - and it's got astronomers on full alert.

    This week several US media outlets reported that NASA was warning the massive flare that caused spectacular light shows on Earth earlier this month was just a precursor to a massive solar storm building that had the potential to wipe out the entire planet's power grid.

    NASA has since rebutted those reports, saying it could come "90 years away or just 100 days", but an Australian astronomer says the space community is betting on the sooner scenario rather than the latter.

    Despite its rebuttal, NASA's been watching out for this storm since 2006 and reports from the US this week claim the Storm could hit Earth On one of those Disaster dates - 2012!

    The 2012 storm has the potential to be even more disruptive Then the one back in 1859 and 1921

    "The general consensus among general astronomers (and certainly solar astronomers) is that this coming Solar maximum (2012 but possibly later into 2013) will be the most violent in 100 years," astronomy lecturer and columnist Dave Reneke said.

    "They can even trip circuit breakers and knock out orbiting satellites, as has already been done this year."

    No one really knows what effect the 2012-2013 Solar Max will have on today's digital-reliant society.

    Dr Richard Fisher, director of NASA’s Heliophysics division, told Mr Reneke the super storm would hit like "a bolt of lightning”, causing catastrophic consequences for the world’s health, emergency services and national security unless precautions are taken.

    NASA said that a recent report by National Academy and sciences found that if a similar storm occurred today, it could cause “$1 to 2 trillion in damages to society's high-tech infrastructure and require Five to 10 years for complete recovery”.

    he reason for the concern comes as the sun enters a phase known as Solar Cycle 24.

    All the alarming news building around the event is being fuelled by two things.

    The first is a book by disaster expert Lawrence E. Joseph, Guilty of Apocalypse: The Case Against 2012, in which he claims the "Hurricane Katrina for the Earth" may cause unprecedented planetwide upheaval.

    The second is a theory that claims sunspots travel through the sun on a "conveyor belt" similar to the Great Ocean Conveyor Belt which controls weather on Earth.

    Most experts agree, although those who put the date of Solar Max in 2012 are getting the most press.

    They claim satellites will be aged by 50 years, rendering GPS even more useless than ever, and the blast will have the equivalent energy of 100 million hydrogen bombs.

    “We know it is coming but we don’t know how bad it is going to be,” Dr Fisher told

    “Systems will just not work. The flares change the magnetic field on the Earth and it’s rapid, just like a lightning bolt.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    What kind of bombs? Are we talking fireworks here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    Michio Kaku was talking about about a year ago. Bye, bye electronics. Could be very serious.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I hope it don't effect the playboy channel!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,127 ✭✭✭✭Leeg17


    It's the end of Boards as we know it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    quick everybody, run for the hills


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    This has always been one of the hypothetical ways in which civilisation ends - the internet and all computer data gets wiped, petrabytes of research data is lost, banking data goes....


    Basically, we all run around, cracking each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside.




    Or not. Depends how big it is. Would have to be REALLY big.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    This has always been one of the hypothetical ways in which civilisation ends - the internet and all computer data gets wiped, petrabytes of research data is lost, banking data goes....


    Basically, we all run around, cracking each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside.




    Or not. Depends how big it is. Would have to be REALLY big.

    And it would have to be aimed our way. No guarantee of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    I've got two words for you: Millenium Bug.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,586 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Biggins wrote: »
    I hope it don't effect the playboy channel!

    So cable tv is the way to go then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭conorhal


    This smacks of Y2K paranoia all over again, thanks for the tip though, I'm off to put my money into tinned goods and tents, I'm so going to make a killing!





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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Sweet. I can squander my sons' college funds on drugs and drink if the world isn't going to be around in a few years time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    2012 eh? Up there with the assumption that we will be wiped out by an asteroid in 100 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    I've got two words for you: Millenium Bug.

    *SIGH*

    There was a Millenium Bug, it isn't the fault of computer scientists that journalists can't be bothered fact-checking to determine what EXACTLY a threat is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    So will any of us actually die in this "Sun Storm" ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    RobitTV wrote: »
    article-1286539-0A0845BE000005DC-905_468x644.jpg

    I thought only Americans thought France was in orbit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Pyr0 wrote: »
    So will any of us actually die in this "Sun Storm" ?

    Only if you are in an aeroplane. The die-off occurs after when food production and distribution suffers.

    Also, if rioting breaks out, then that would kill people too.

    Again, this may not acually happen at all.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    This is the very reason why I still have Porno Mags.

    Hard Copy... just in case...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭curlzy


    :eek::eek::eek: PANIC! PANIC! PANIC!, WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDRN!!!!!! :eek::eek::eek:. Oh wait, nope not panicky at all, dude we have like 2 years to stock up on sun block:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    RobitTV wrote: »
    The 2012 storm has the potential to be even more disruptive Then the one back in 1859 and 1921

    I think a squirrel gnawing through a power line would be more disruptive than anything that happened in 1859.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    They say that if it happens, it could take up to 50 years to fully restore electricity supplies. I think a generator takes something like 500 man horurs to build, and hundreds of thousands would be needed

    it happened a hundred odd years ago and took down the telegram grid


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    So cable tv is the way to go then
    ...But there is feck all boobies on display in Eastbenders!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    Only if you are in an aeroplane. The die-off occurs after when food production and distribution suffers.

    Also, if rioting breaks out, then that would kill people too.

    Again, this may not acually happen at all.

    Ah that's alright then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Bahh ..in 18whatever the storm took 18 hours to reach earth.
    So all we need this time is someone to watch the sun and when it happens, spread the word and we'll just unplug everything for 18 - 24 hours until it's over :D

    Just make sure to have your freezer fairly empty or everything will spoil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭KilOit


    hopefully it will be exciting like the movie Knowing

    Spoiler if hadn't seen it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    2012 eh? Up there with the assumption that we will be wiped out by an asteroid in 100 years.

    Coronal mass ejections pose a more likely threat than an asteroid strike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    This has always been one of the hypothetical ways in which civilisation ends - the internet and all computer data gets wiped, petrabytes of research data is lost, banking data goes....


    Basically, we all run around, cracking each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside.




    Or not. Depends how big it is. Would have to be REALLY big.
    Its not the end of civilization its just a serious setback in technology. Banking data, personal data and research is always backed up with hard copies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Kaidan wrote: »
    hopefully it will be exciting like the movie Knowing

    Spoiler if hadn't seen it

    Seriously? That's the first I've ever heard those two phrases in the same sentence.

    If this does happen, whats the bets there's going to be a bunch of impressionable people in Knock claiming they just saw the Mudder of Chris doing the lambada with Elvis, with Budda looking on in jealousy?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Can someone explain how it will actually wipe out the grid?
    Its related to ElectroMagnetic Pulse (EMP) and is a huge topic in itself.
    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811


    Can someone explain how it will actually wipe out the grid?

    Fcuks up the earth's magnetic field I think.
    Might be wrong though.

    Edit: See above!


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