Massey Ferguson 390/390T Vs Fiat 110-90

Would definately go for the fiat. Have an 80-90 2wd, workhorse of a tractor. Would pull the socks off the 390. Have used my fiat for all sorts of work, pulling 1300 gallon tanker and even baling with a welger rp200. I would say the 110-90 would be grand for loader work. The only problem they don't come with a shuttle box which is handy. If buying a fiat try to get one with the wide super comfort cab.

The gears arrangement in the fiat could be annoying if your using it for loader work and changing from forward to reverse repeatedly plus you could find yourself in a forward gear easy enough if you loose your bearings when your changing from forward-reverse :rolleyes: how do i know that . i would imagine that it would be difficult to see the loader when its raised when loading straw for example i think youd be sat a bit too far back and youd be hunched over the wheel alot of the time but for pulling or pto work fiat would strip a 390 but a 399 im not so sure
The 390 would be a perfect for around the yard but might struggle with heavy going with a trailer. But then agian ive seen plenty use them with out fault. The comment about the hitches is if they are negected wear on the hooks etc means a gap comes in between the tip of the pick up hitch and the retaining plate which shouldnt be allowed to come in them in the first place either plates should be welded on or the hooks replaced which we recently did on our 3085 for €250. But this is a good indication that shes been used for alot of trailer work. And the 300 series dont seem to suffer badly from rust either ive seen a few abused examples and when you compare it to what can be found on some 3000 series that are stored under cover :eek:.
Rust is something quite alot of fiats suffer from especially doors and pillar and around the windscreen which should be watched for

hi just to add my bit would agree with snowman there landani would be best bet for that money, i have 1993 landani blizard 85 with rossmore loarder on it bought it 3 years ago for 8grand needed new cluch and bit of work spent bout 2 grand on cluch and other parts done all work myself and she running perfect now, perkins engine massy front axle it is a massy tractor all over only landani stickers, no electricks on it but there are a shuttle on it great with loader. i know the 390 and 110/90 are far more horsepower and better tractors but for your budget i would realy say a landini,

adne wrote: »

I'd run a mile from a 399

Why?

Same tractor as a 390 with a Perkins 6cyl engine?

id go for the 399 with the phaser engine, not the 6354. lovely machine. forget the fiat ( Fix It Again Tomorrow ), front axle is shoddy with the 2 rams, clutch is a pain to do an they go regularly enough.

maidhc wrote: »

It can't be that bad if New Holland replaced the Carraro single ram on the 40 series fords with a 2 ram Fiat one in the more modern TS series.

Thas called good business. If you owned new holland and bought out fords interest on tractors, would you replace a major component like a front axle with something you made yourself instead of buying it from carrero? regardless of how good carreros axle was, and it was a top line axle, new holland were always going to do it for margin, profit and market share for their product.

pure breed wrote: »

Hi i'm on the lookout for a 4wd tractor
I ave narrowed it down to MF 390/390T or Fiat 110-90/100-90 both with loader
my budget ia approx €10k preferably less
I am just looking for some advice on the pros and cons of each
Would be using it for silage grab and front loader in winter , maybe be slurry in the future.
and cutting hay etc during summer
We have had 35x with front loader, 165, and 185 with the last 30 yrs or so on the farm, and they have some work done.
cheers

I'm also looking for a similar tractor,4wd with loader 80 to 90hp range, a dealer in navan has asked me E14000 for a Case 4240 1998, I hav'nt seen it yet, they are waiting for it to come from Cork, pricewise its the best deal yet, I've been asked for more money for older tractors, a dealer in Mullingar asked E17000 for a Case 4230 1997, I saw it , it's a good tractor but much too dear.
I've been told to go for Landini Blizzard and MF 390.
let me know how you are getting on
Tom

have driven both, if I was doing alot of loader work it HAS to be the Massey because they has super oil-flow, tight turning circle, good gears, easy on fuel and good visability.

Now if I was getting a tractor for pulling and other heavy work it HAS to be the Fiat, heavy back end, faster, little bit more comfortable and cheaper.

Both good reliable tractors with very little or no electronics so easy repair.
Good luck with your choice..

As a matter of interest purebreed i am thinking of getting a similar tractor but without a loader was thinking of a case. How did you fair out with your budget ?