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Why is AH so misogynistic?

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  • #212
    IvySlayer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,193 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    It's a joke ffs.

    Don't call AH sexist if you don't have a sense of humour.


  • #213
    midlandsmissus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    so why complain about something but not report it and then complain that after hours isn't being cleaned up even though you know how to clean it up?

    But on other threads where there is racism/ discrimination there is usually a quick mod comment after it with XXXX banned.

    Surely all these posts are not reported? The mods just know it is unacceptable.

    Whereas we are told that the mysoginy is acceptable, by the inaction of mods, and as there is a majority of male posters on here and a majority of male mods on here we don't know what to do!

    In fairness to the mods this has obviously led to the situation where they didn't realise how big a deal it was.

    But it is a HUGE deal. It can't go on like this, it's actually really bad. I hate it to be honest.


  • #214
    Pookah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Pookah


    liah wrote: »
    For those of you asking. I didn't see infractions by any of them (except one, I think). The mods had been aware of the thread and could have taken action.

    Do they have to be reported first or can the mods take action by themselves?


  • #215
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    midlandsmissus wrote: »
    But on other threads where there is racism/ discrimination there is usually a quick mod comment after it with XXXX banned.
    .

    They aren't jokes....


  • #216
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    EMF2010 wrote: »
    Isn't your argument a little bit circular?

    You said earlier that nobody was asking her to read the thread. I think this is a bit of a silly argument btw - why shouldn't somebody read a thread which looks interesting? They shouldn't read it because it might offend them or contain an opinion they disagree with? That's mad.

    I actually understand what you're saying - there is a method in place and I for one will look at using the report function more often rather than just ignoring things, but saying 'you don't have to read the thread' and then 'read the thread and report it' is a tad unfair. Which is it to be?

    surely if you don't like a post or a thread you have two options,ignore it and let it run off you or report and deal with the matter in a structured manner,not let it boil up and totally lash out causing a big commotion attacking people because they found something funny


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  • #217
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    AnnyHallsal wrote: »
    Well Billy Connolly doesn't resort to an endless array of kitchen/I'd do her jokes.

    I was aware of that, thanks. He used have a bigger beard too....


  • #218
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    liah wrote: »

    For those of you asking. I didn't see infractions by any of them (except one, I think). The mods had been aware of the thread and could have taken action.

    These examples are from one single thread btw.

    Again I will say not one of those posts were reported, why were they not reported?


  • #219
    Catari Jaguar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    of course not,however it is a public forum,just because you don't find something funny doesn't mean that nobody else can

    It's not a PUBLIC forum. It's private and can be censored. A lot of people find racist jokes funny. Can you tell them here? Nope.

    And just because YOU find it funny doesn't mean that we can't have a problem with it. It works both ways.

    Besides, any one that finds degrading another person/ race/ gender funny needs to grow up and cop on.


  • #220
    liah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    It's a joke ffs.

    Don't call AH sexist if you don't have a sense of humour.

    Do the posts I quoted seem like just jokes? Because they come across as quite patronizing and misogynistic to me.
    Pookah wrote: »
    Do they have to be reported first or can the mods take action by themselves?

    Pretty sure the mods can take action for themselves. Could be wrong?


  • #221
    Catari Jaguar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Again I will say not one of those posts were reported, why were they not reported?

    Because on AH sexism is teh win


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  • #222
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    cherub rock wrote: »
    Because on AH sexism is teh win


    Well if you believe that, that is the way it will be.


  • #223
    midlandsmissus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Again I will say not one of those posts were reported, why were they not reported?

    Because we feel intimidated! 'All lads for themselves' kinda thing.


  • #224
    AnnyHallsal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭AnnyHallsal


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    It's a joke ffs.

    Don't call AH sexist if you don't have a sense of humour.

    Yeah everything in AH is hilarious in a completely innocent way.


  • #225
    midlandsmissus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    Nodin wrote: »
    They aren't jokes....
    You think the posts just quoted there from the other thread were all jokes?


  • #226
    Pookah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Pookah


    Pookah wrote: »
    Do they have to be reported first or can the mods take action by themselves?

    Pretty sure the mods can take action for themselves. Could be wrong?

    Could a mod answer this question, please?


  • #227
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Pookah wrote: »
    Do they have to be reported first or can the mods take action by themselves?

    The Mods can & do take action when they see fit. One of them yellow carded me earlier for one of my posts, but I think he was trying to impress the ladies with that one.



    (Just kiddin' Mickey!)


  • #228
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    midlandsmissus wrote: »
    Because we feel intimidated! 'All lads for themselves' kinda thing.

    If you feel "intimidated" by a stupid joke on the internet in the safety of your own home, the intarwebz - and indeed the real world - is not the place for you.


  • #229
    Catari Jaguar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    As Mickey the Mod pointed out earlier... if you find a post offensive, report it. I'm not going to go reporting posts for you.

    Nice attitude.


  • #230
    AnnyHallsal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭AnnyHallsal


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    surely if you don't like a post or a thread you have two options,ignore it and let it run off you or report and deal with the matter in a structured manner,not let it boil up and totally lash out causing a big commotion attacking people because they found something funny

    This is lashing out causing a big commotion rather than a rational discussion?


  • #231
    liah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Again I will say not one of those posts were reported, why were they not reported?

    Why had the mods not taken action? At least the majority, if not all of quoted posts (save the one I remarked on) above should have been immediately recognized as far less than good natured ribbing. I don't believe I'm being oversensitive as seeing them in this light, but perhaps I'm wrong. Maybe they really are hilarious jokes all meant in good fun but it doesn't seem that way to me. And it certainly doesn't come across as attacking the post in a lot of cases, there's more than a few direct references to various female posters.

    I also assumed someone else may have reported it, and as I mentioned before, I haven't bothered with the report system basically ever as even when people do, nothing changes, so what's the point in wasting effort if in the next thread the exact same thing happens?


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  • #232
    AckwelFoley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    AnnyHallsal wrote: »
    Well Billy Connolly doesn't resort to an endless array of kitchen/I'd do her jokes.

    Is making a comment on finding somone attractive what bothers you or is it the joke made of it that bothers you.

    If its the former, read the ladies lounge, they have plenty of eye candy threads,


    If its the latter, well - you just dont like the jokes,


  • #233
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    cherub rock wrote: »
    It's not a PUBLIC forum. It's private and can be censored. A lot of people find racist jokes funny. Can you tell them here? Nope.

    And just because YOU find it funny doesn't mean that we can't have a problem with it. It works both ways.

    Besides, any one that finds degrading another person/ race/ gender funny needs to grow up and cop on.

    it is a public forum people aren't invited to join,i agree you can have a problem with it,however why not stick to the charter rules of the "censored" forum and report posts?,users who find certain posts funny aren't responsible for censoring and if it is found to be offensive they are penelised under the charter rules.If you want something done,do it by the structure,i'm not responsible for your hang ups on what you find offensive therefore i won't censor my sense of humour for your benefit,i sympathise but don't apologise.


  • #234
    Earthhorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Again I will say not one of those posts were reported, why were they not reported?

    Again I will ask; does a post need to be reported in order to be acted upon? Would similar posts, based on a poster's nationality, be acted upon?


  • #235
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    cherub rock wrote: »
    Nice attitude.

    Now you are just giving out for the sake of giving out.


  • #236
    IvySlayer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,193 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    liah wrote: »
    Do the posts I quoted seem like just jokes? Because they come across as quite patronizing and misogynistic to me.



    Pretty sure the mods can take action for themselves. Could be wrong?

    Don't rise to trolls, report them.
    AnnyHallsal wrote: »
    Yeah everything in AH is hilarious in a completely innocent way.

    There's been far worse jokes. Rape, jokes about Maddy, animal abuse jokes , Bono. If I don't like a joke, I'll move along. And use the report button if necessary. I won't scroll through threads looking for something to get offended at.

    What do you want, a complete ban on women jokes?


  • #237
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    AnnyHallsal wrote: »
    This is lashing out causing a big commotion rather than a rational discussion?

    well maybe a bad choice of words,but it's a tad over rational


  • #238
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    midlandsmissus wrote: »
    You think the posts just quoted there from the other thread were all jokes?

    Most of them most certainly were. Others were certainly wind ups. Whether you find them funny or not is another matter.


  • #239
    DoneDL
    Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭DoneDL


    I have known women who hate women, men who hate men, women who hate men, men who hate women, beautiful men and women who were ugly, men and women who would curdle water who could light up your life but I have to say I have never met so many people who work on the assumption that to find something funny defines your ability to know right from wrong or good from bad.


  • #240
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    liah wrote: »
    Why had the mods not taken action? At least the majority, if not all of quoted posts (save the one I remarked on) above should have been immediately recognized as far less than good natured ribbing. I don't believe I'm being oversensitive as seeing them in this light, but perhaps I'm wrong. Maybe they really are hilarious jokes all meant in good fun but it doesn't seem that way to me. And it certainly doesn't come across as attacking the post in a lot of cases, there's more than a few direct references to various female posters.

    I also assumed someone else may have reported it, and as I mentioned before, I haven't bothered with the report system basically ever as even when people do, nothing changes, so what's the point in wasting effort if in the next thread the exact same thing happens?

    liah, we don't always read every post of every thread. Now that we are aware of the thread, action will be taken where appropriate.

    Also the "some will else will report it" or "It wouldn't change anything anyway" are weak arguments and you should really reconsider your position on those opinions.


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  • #241
    liah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Don't rise to trolls, report them.



    There's been far worse jokes. Rape, jokes about Maddy, animal abuse jokes , Bono. If I don't like a joke, I'll move along. And use the report button if necessary. I won't scroll trhough threads looking for something to get offended at.

    What do you want, a complete ban on women jokes?

    Nope. We want "attack the post, not the poster." Everything you referenced was NEVER made in reference to ANY boards poster, and if it was I guarantee it was immediately remedied by the mods. I've never seen anything like that last more than a few minutes, tops.

    Normally the mods are incredibly good about the attack the post not the poster rule, but when it comes to women, it's no holds barred, and I took quite a few references out of one thread alone if you don't believe it to exist.


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