how do Gardai/Detectives go to murder/homicide scenes and not be affected?

CorkMan · 14-09-2010 10:09PM #1

It doesn't make sense. You would assume if you went to a scene where a person hung him/herself it would affect your mind a lot. Or a car crash where you had to pull out the bodies.

I assume they have some methods, because everybody is human.

Kasabian · 14-09-2010 10:10PM

Of course it affects them.

14-09-2010 10:10PM

dexter

Scuid Mhór · 14-09-2010 10:12PM

they're secretly sociopaths.

BluesBerry · 14-09-2010 10:13PM

Id say they have to do mandatory counseling sessions and are probably rotated on different crimes etc they are only human themselves

The state pathologist must be one strong person

Local-womanizer · 14-09-2010 10:13PM

They dont look at the damage behind the crime, ie that to the family of the murdered,dead etc but rather they look at it technically I assume, like how and why did this happen.

And jokes too I heard,seen it on a show 2 cops cleaning up a body and laughing while doing it,they said it is a release for them,helps them not to get emotionally attached.

14-09-2010 10:14PM

Don't they have a lot of psychology screening? Just to make sure you're strong enough to cope.

Mister men · 14-09-2010 10:14PM

Well if it's the usual case of some scumbag drugdealer or crook i'm sure it cheers them up a bit tbh. Must be hard if it's someone innocent mind you.

CorkMan · 14-09-2010 10:14PM

Kasabian wrote: »

Of course it affects them.

But I mean none of them are depressed/traumatized by it. It is their job to do it, and they do it for 30+ years.

kowloon · 14-09-2010 10:19PM

I'd say you can detach yourself from bodies and the like, to an extent.
The real trial would be telling the victims family. I couldn't knock on someones door to tell them their child was killed on the road or committed suicide, both situations more common than murder.

jd007 · 14-09-2010 10:22PM

Because they have no soul :pac:

Earthhorse · 14-09-2010 10:23PM

CorkMan wrote: »

But I mean none of them are depressed/traumatized by it.

Of course they are.

Big Nasty · 14-09-2010 10:24PM

The trick is too detach yourself from it by viewing it technically and joking about, or so I've read.

Easier said than done though - I know a chap who was a fireman / ambulance driver for years and spent his life scraping dead bodies off the road. Feckin' screamin' mad alco!

Bjorn Bored. · 14-09-2010 10:24PM

It is possible to detach your self from the emotions of such things, I mean how do you think Nurses and dotors and hospice workers cope seeing death and suffering on a daily basis? You just decide to opt out of the emotional attachment,just like flickin a switch in your brain..

ejmaztec · 14-09-2010 10:25PM

Don't they have to attend post mortems, like the pigs in the UK? A guy that I went to school with, dropped like a brick when it was his turn to witness the giblets being carved up.

NothingMan · 14-09-2010 10:26PM

I agree with Kowloon. I could handle the dead bodies, sure it's only meat and that person has nothing more to worry about, but seeing how it effects family would be much harder to deal with.

delta720 · 14-09-2010 10:26PM

Read Homicide by David Simon, or if you can't read, watch The Wire.

recylingbin · 14-09-2010 10:28PM

Yup. Sometimes upholding the law is messy. But you get by. One day at a time.

bobblepuzzle · 14-09-2010 10:29PM

I'm not sure about the bit that them being human matters...sure the Nazis were human, and not only killed in cold blood but also burned hundreds of thousands of bodies.... I'm sure they can find a few hundred Irish that can stomach a few murders

NothingMan · 14-09-2010 10:30PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Easier said than done though - I know a chap who was a fireman / ambulance driver for years and spent his life scraping dead bodies off the road. Feckin' screamin' mad alco!

I know a chap who was a plumber and he was a raging alco too. I don't think that's true to the vast majority of people in that sector. My uncle was a fireman his whole life and he was a gentleman and well rounded man.

Another uncle who was a soldier all his life, seargeant Major when he died and again, no effects of what he had seen in his life in his life outside work. Although aparently he was an absolute **** of a Seargeant, but that was his job.

Pighead · 14-09-2010 10:30PM

Of course they're affected but they've just gotta be strong and get on with it. Of course that's easier said than done but it's just the same as when someone on boards.ie calls you a horrible name. You've just gotta breath in, count to ten and suck it up. Otherwise you'll explode with anger and die or even worse get infracted.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 14-09-2010 10:36PM

Know cops who have seen some pretty horrific sh*t and there is mandatory counselling, which most really aren't that interested in.
Of course they do think about it when they lie back at night but they try not to.
And at work, there is unappropriate joking and whatnot but I don't think that's cold, you have to cope with that sort of thing. And the fact that gardai are often thought of as cold is often for the very reason that they are detaching themselves from whats happening, you could end up with a very jaded world view if you didn't

Kylo Ren · 14-09-2010 10:49PM

Bitch

Please...

The Paws · 15-09-2010 12:28AM

How they know they are/will be ok doing those jobs? Do they make them selves do it or got used to it...I dont get it!!!

brendansmith · 15-09-2010 12:32AM

CorkMan wrote: »

But I mean none of them are depressed/traumatized by it. It is their job to do it, and they do it for 30+ years.

Its essentially down to the fact that they are pricks.
They love seeing murder scenes because it all goes in the bank for later on.
They [EMAIL="w@nk"]w@nk[/EMAIL] whilst thinking of the dead smashed heads and then they eat their fried puppy dinner and then they cut into their chests with a knife.

mikemac · 15-09-2010 12:34AM

You detach yourself

That isn't a car wrapped around a tree with some mothers son dead inside.

No, it's a vehicle which left the road at this spot with 30 metres of skids marks at this time on this date.
One male deceased, currently working to identify.

Write a technical report and keep your distance

brendansmith · 15-09-2010 12:34AM

delta720 wrote: »

Read Homicide by David Simon, or if you can't read, watch The Wire.

Or if you dont fancy watching all 5 series of the wire just watch the die hard trilogy.

siltirocker · 15-09-2010 01:00AM

Someone i knew with Cassidy's team left the Gardai after being so traumatized by an incident so i would disagree with the OP.

DOC09UNAM · 15-09-2010 01:14AM

brendansmith wrote: »

Its essentially down to the fact that they are pricks.
They love seeing murder scenes because it all goes in the bank for later on.
They [EMAIL="w@nk"]w@nk[/EMAIL] whilst thinking of the dead smashed heads and then they eat their fried puppy dinner and then they cut into their chests with a knife.

dude what the fúck?

stovelid · 15-09-2010 01:16AM

kowloon wrote: »

I'd say you can detach yourself from bodies and the like, to an extent.

And do your business before they get too cold.

brendansmith · 15-09-2010 01:20AM

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

dude what the fúck?

If you have evidence to the contrary id love to see it.

how do Gardai/Detectives go to murder/homicide scenes and not be affected?

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