hung over Brian Cowen on rte morning Ireland, how many pints do you think he had??

Paparazzo · 14-09-2010 04:10PM

Mark200 wrote: »

A 9 minute radio interview is equivalent to a 'big conference'?

Anyway, the point is that there was nothing wrong with the interview he gave.

Morning Ireland has half a million listeners. So it would be a quite large one, yes

moonpurple · 14-09-2010 04:11PM

the press association take:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jKrpiD1QQq2F8oh543DfZeurMIFQ

Cowen denies alcohol impairment
(UKPA) – 7 minutes ago
Taoiseach Brian Cowen has denied giving a live radio interview while drunk or hungover.
Mr Cowen was challenged over his handling of an RTE morning broadcast from his Fianna Fail party's annual get together ahead of the new Dail term.
The opposition claimed the interview came on the back of a late night and prompted concerns over Mr Cowen's ability to lead the country.
Copyright © 2010 The Press Association. All rights reserved.

recylingbin · 14-09-2010 04:12PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Do you work for yourself or for someone else, out of interest?

irrelevant.

With regards to Cowen, people are just pissed off at the idea he was hung over because it would be nice to think the man respects the public enough to NOT be hungover during a broadcast interview...i imagine it implies disrespect to both the media and the populace in their minds.

Nothing too shocking there.

Whether he was hung over or not means nothing.
The content of the interview is all that matters to me.
As usual, there was no content as the interviewer asked nothingof substance and allowed himto dodge any questions that were nearly pertinent.

It demonstrates the quality of journalism in the country when they want to focus on this instad of asking the questions that need to be asked and pressing the politicians on these issues.

Signifies the ever growing 'tabloidisation' of the media in general imo

nacho libre · 14-09-2010 04:12PM

Mark200 wrote: »

What is actually an embarrassment is the reaction of the power hungry idiot opposition TDs and how (presumably) one journalist pondering the idea of whether a hoarse voice means hungover can cause this non-story to become headline news.

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isn't this what the opposition generally tend to do though? in a principled world the opposition would only oppose constructively. what i mean is, if the situation was reversed, i suspect some ff tds would have done the exact same thing.

DonJose · 14-09-2010 04:12PM

Mark200 wrote: »

Well actually we have 88% employment and our health and education systems are consistently ranked very high in comparison to other Western Democracies.

If the 455,000 on the dole also emigrated we'd have 100% employment!!!

R P McMurphy · 14-09-2010 04:13PM

Is hard to tell if he was drunk, or hung over, tired or simply mumbling. I guess it does not matter as it is perception that counts and the international coverage looks bad

Biggins · 14-09-2010 04:14PM

Yahoo news: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100914/tuk-cowen-denies-alcohol-impairment-e1cd776.html

Foreign Affairs Minister Micheal Martin defended his party leader and the Taoiseach's interview performance, saying he was hoarse: "Of course, the Taoiseach was very hoarse during the interview, that was self-evident and very clear. But it seems to me that that seems to be what the issue is about, that the Taoiseach was hoarse."

Aaa... yes, talk about stating the obvious! LOL

thebigbiffo · 14-09-2010 04:15PM

Biggins wrote: »

You will find a link in the following RTE new write-up: http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0914/fiannafail.html

this link wouldn't work for me, thanks though biggins

mikom wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11295462

thanks for the link mikom.

juding by the 2m:07s of that interview, i see absolutely nothing wrong.

Gophur · 14-09-2010 04:15PM

Mark200 wrote: »

..........

Anyway, the point is that there was nothing wrong with the interview he gave.

Apart from sounding rough, incoherent and clueless, correct, there was nothing "wrong" with the interview.

If that interview was acceptable, you have some serious standards.

God help us all if this man is deemed suitable to lead the Country.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 14-09-2010 04:18PM

patmac wrote: »

recession session?

or just re-session

Mark200 · 14-09-2010 04:22PM

Gophur wrote: »

Apart from sounding rough, incoherent and clueless, correct, there was nothing "wrong" with the interview.

If that interview was acceptable, you have some serious standards.

God help us all if this man is deemed suitable to lead the Country.

In comparison to his usual standard in interviews, there was nothing wrong with it. Certainly nothing to make it news worthy.

_feedback_ · 14-09-2010 04:24PM

How are people defending this guy?

He won't even admit he over-indulged last night, even though some of his party members have said he was "socialising" or "socialisation" as one put it!

Nevermind the interview, they are supposodly there to brainstorm for new ideas etc. He didn't sound in bright idea form this morning.

Dara Calleary - Fianna Fail Blog wrote:

It is important that the Parliamentary Party get together like this once a year and take time out to discuss issues, debate policy and hear from outside experts. It helps to fuel our thinking and fresh ideas and approaches are always welcome.

fuel our thinking - ha !

http://www.fiannafail.ie/blog/

Logical Fallacy · 14-09-2010 04:24PM

recylingbin wrote: »

irrelevant.

I don't think so, you used the term "the proletariat" in what came across as a mildly derogatory manner. I was asking if you were a wage or salary worker as that is really the defining factor of someone being in the proletariat, the fact that they effectively sell labour....I am working off the assumption that you didn't mean the Greek meaning.

So not really irrelevant, more just trying to figure out exactly how much weight i should give your postings...i tend to just ignore people who throw terms around without understanding what they infer.

Whether he was hung over or not means nothing.
The content of the interview is all that matters to me.
As usual, there was no content as the interviewer asked nothingof substance and allowed himto dodge any questions that were nearly pertinent.

It demonstrates the quality of journalism in the country when they want to focus on this instad of asking the questions that need to be asked and pressing the politicians on these issues.

Signifies the ever growing 'tabloidisation' of the media in general imo

I'm not arguing either way, merely stating and observation. Did i say that i was personally annoyed at the concept of Cowen being hungover? Nope.

I agree with you, it's more of a media circus that anything...but look at the reaction to this thread? It's a subject that is getting people talking and i think we both know, and have issue with the fact, that it will get people buying papers tomorrow.

I completely agree with you on the last point you made about the media.

jd007 · 14-09-2010 04:25PM

This is being blown ridiculously out of proportion ffs! Ok if the Irish media have a field day over it but for global media? I didn't even think he sounded that bad.

thebigbiffo · 14-09-2010 04:26PM

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Is hard to tell if he was drunk, or hung over, tired or simply mumbling. I guess it does not matter as it is perception that counts and the international coverage looks bad

exactly.

looks more to me like the opposition, the media and their various spinsters saw a chance to accuse BC of a hangover and cause another (unneeded) controversy. this kind of thing is all bolloxx as far as i'm concerned. ffs, attack the policies at least - not the f'uckin tone of a mans voice.

as i said before, it's more to do with that fact that he looks like a big ugly mucker that most of you dont like him.

Gophur · 14-09-2010 04:28PM

elviscostello wrote: »

How are people defending this guy?

He won't even admit he over-indulged last night, even though some of his party members have said he was "socialising" or "socialisation" as one put it!

Nevermind the interview, they are supposodly there to brainstorm for new ideas etc. He didn't sound in bright idea form this morning.

fuel our thinking - ha !

http://www.fiannafail.ie/blog/

Dara Calleary should know what he's talking about, he was with the Glorious one all last night!:rolleyes:

DonJose · 14-09-2010 04:29PM

This country is in great hands.

14-09-2010 04:30PM

Chairman Meow wrote: »

I love all the comments along the lines of 'who hasnt gone to work hungover?' or this is non-news etc.
Can you picture Obama giving an interview after a night on the piss? Or David Cameron? Or Angela Merkle?
They wouldnt do it, so why should we accept it from our supposed leader? Any other PM or president would be lambasted for it.

But this is Ireland and I would at least like to think we have a bit of a more easy going opinion on life and can look at other nations at laugh when they take minor incidents like this way out of context.

Look if he went up sick as a pig on budget day or at some international leaders conference it might be a bit more of an issue, but this was a radio interview during what is basically a glorified social event and I listened to all the interview and as far as I'm concerned he was not much different to his usual rambling, rubbish talking self.

Gophur · 14-09-2010 04:31PM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

exactly.

looks more to me like the opposition, the media and their various spinsters saw a chance to accuse BC of a hangover and cause another (unneeded) controversy. this kind of thing is all bolloxx as far as i'm concerned. ffs, attack the policies at least - not the f'uckin tone of a mans voice.

as i said before, it's more to do with that fact that he looks like a big ugly mucker that most of you dont like him.

Today is the result of something that has been bubbling under for a long time, it was bound to erupt sometime. Cowen is in trouble, and rightly so.

There is no need for any opposition to try to bring him down, he'll do it all himself.

Mark200 · 14-09-2010 04:31PM

elviscostello wrote: »

He won't even admit he over-indulged last night, even though some of his party members have said he was "socialising" or "socialisation" as one put it!

Ah so you can't socialise without 'over-indulging'? :rolleyes:

_feedback_ · 14-09-2010 04:37PM

Mark200 wrote: »

Ah so you can't socialise without 'over-indulging'? :rolleyes:

I don't know. Because he wont tell me how much he drank. I'm assuming, as he is avoiding the questions on that question, that he has something to hide.

ADD: He was still going strong on the drink at 2.30am according to Today FM just now. ADD AGAIN: He was in "elated spirits" and "doing impressions of Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh" ANOTHER ADD: "finished up close to 4am" - All direct quotes from people who were in the same room as him.

Is that not over-indulging Mark?

eoin_mulhern · 14-09-2010 04:38PM

I cant imagine the stress he is under to be honest so he can have a few quid out of my tax to blow of steam with the boys for all the ****e i give him....so from here on in, none of you worry it was my tax that had the pints flowing last night the rest yours went to saving the economy

Wertz · 14-09-2010 04:40PM

I think people are being very unfair on Mr Cowen...the poor man obviously had a frog in his throat this morning.

A fat frog.

thebigbiffo · 14-09-2010 04:41PM

Gophur wrote: »

Today is the result of something that has been bubbling under for a long time, the public baying for blood it was bound to erupt sometime. Cowen is in trouble, and rightly so.

There is no need for any opposition to try to bring him down, he'll do it all himself.

fixed that there

Paparazzo · 14-09-2010 04:52PM

Tomorrows news: FF announce measures to curb binge drinking.

mconigol · 14-09-2010 04:54PM

Someone just ask him how many drinks he had yesterday and what time he went to bed??

If he can answer those questions honestly and without hesitation then I've no problem if he had 40 pints and stayed up all night....If he's a true leader he should not be ashamed to be honest and 100% defend his actions.

I doubt he will though....

(Apart from that, whether he was hungover/drunk or not, he is a representative of the government and of the country and should at the very minimum be able to sound coherent when giving an national interview.

I'm not the best public speaker, or speaker in general, but I will lift my game and at least give the impression that I'm making an effort.

To come on the radio as Taoiseach and give an interview like that not only shows a complete lack of respect for the people of Ireland but also that he has no comprehension of the image he should be expressing to the country and the rest of the world.

He could be the smartest man on the planet but this attitude of "I'll do however I please and I'm not going to change my ways to suit anyone" is appalling and completely unacceptable for the supposed leader of the country.

corkdave · 14-09-2010 04:55PM

Biggins wrote: »

Biffo is giving new meaning to the next Dail session!

Class!

moonpurple · 14-09-2010 04:56PM

Frank Fahy todayfm 16:56 matt cooper

'we had an excellent 2 day session'

sounds like you did

SeaFields · 14-09-2010 04:59PM

Matt Cooper is giving them hell.

John Drennan (journalist) said he left at 2.30am and Biffo was still there. Frank Fahy TD said he left at 1.30am and John Drennan left before him and so Drennan is lying.

This sh!t is hilarious.

corkdave · 14-09-2010 05:00PM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

can somebody please give me a link to the interview!! i have tried to find it i promise!! i want to be able to apologise for cowen while fully informed!!

If your system can't play it, just enter cowen drunk on youtube.

hung over Brian Cowen on rte morning Ireland, how many pints do you think he had??

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