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Banking scare threads and the truth.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    DeVore wrote: »
    Merkel orchestrated for Europe to make 1 Trillion euros available to governments if the bond markets wouldnt buy their bonds. It was back at the time of the Greece incident and I said at the time it would scare the predators in the water and so far it seems to have done so.

    Ah, I see. You're talking about the money that IRISH NATIONWIDE has issued €4 billion of Government-guaranteed bonds effectively to itself in order to borrow from?
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2010/0908/1224278447479.html
    It is understood that Irish Nationwide will start drawing ECB funding using the bonds as short-term collateral this week and will refinance the debt with Nama bonds as they are issued before all loans are transferred by February.

    Cos nothing suggests that this euro money will sort us out like one of our banks issueing €4 billion of Government-guaranteed bonds effectively to itself to get it.
    DeVore wrote: »
    Ireland could default, of course it *could* but much like Greece, it wont be *allowed to*. The entire Eurozone is built on "all for one" and its being tested like no tomorrow but there is too much riding on it and we are too far down the line of that project to allow Ireland to trash it. So, funding will be made available and accomodation made for us. Dont think that means free money, we'd like be savaged in the process, it wouldnt be pleasant. Thats my 2c.
    This is what I'm very interested in. I'm interested given I'm from Ireland :eek:

    What is the savaging to come? What will become of our money in our banks?

    It's all well and good telling people to shut up but I reckon a lot of people are very anxious to have some real information rather than positive sentitment





    oh yeah, the previous post to this one... :(
    patmac wrote: »
    With thanks to Brendan in askaboutmoney.com
    more here
    yeah, cos he looks like he knows what he's talking about.
    example:
    a quick google of his name gives you a better idea: http://www.google.ie/search?q=brendan+burgess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭patmac


    Slydice wrote: »
    oh yeah, the previous post to this one... :(

    yeah, cos he looks like he knows what he's talking about.
    example:

    Feel free to correct anything that is wrong with that article, (serious question not trying to be a smart arse).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,308 ✭✭✭quozl


    For one thing - the government did not just guarantee depositors. They guaranteed bond holders. That is where the debate is. I don't think anybody suggested burning depositors, but indemnifing bond holders was a truly reckless act in my opinion.

    To leave that out - the very core of the issue, makes the piece either disingenuous or ignorant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    The 100k guarantee is a bluff. Ireland can't actually afford to pay it if it comes to it...


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,225 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    bigneacy wrote: »
    I can't help but thinking this person probably pronouced "retarded" the same as Alan from The Hangover.... alan-rainman.jpg

    He just strikes me as a similar person to him.... Ya know, incredibly dense, thinks everything is a conspiracy.
    Banned for abuse.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    digme wrote: »
    How would you feel if i took 20% of your weeks wages every week for the next 50 odd years? Would you save in my bank? Course you would,isn't that right? .... retarded

    Not sure what you're getting at here to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Confab wrote: »
    Worried about your investments eh? Don't blame you really, I saw the deleted thread. Anyway, it's unlikely there'll be any sort of run on Irish banks.
    We should all make a run on Irish banks. Armed with pitchforks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,278 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Johro wrote: »
    We should all make a run on Irish banks. Armed with pitchforks.

    I thought JCBs were the tools of choice, these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭smk89


    So my €3.50 is safe in the bank then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    well, it seems David McWilliams has done a blog which seems to have a bite at my question about what will happen to savings: http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2010/09/20/capital-punishment-for-all
    In reality, a major outflow of deposits can trigger a serious crisis, but it doesn’t mean Irish deposits will not be honoured.

    The European Central Bank will not countenance any loss to depositors, but this will not be enough to stop a steady drip-drip of cash out of Ireland.
    (emphasis by me)

    and this is said in a blog entry where Ireland will pretty much have some sort of default:
    If we don’t face the crisis head on, the next few months will witness capital flight and the crisis will come to a head anyway. Better to get on with it.

    he also seems to indicate a more what is more likely to happen to savings:
    Remember, savings are very easy to get at.

    A ‘temporary’ new Dirt-style tax must look very attractive to tax collectors.

    Slightly more clear on what could happen to savings. Still though, time will tell.


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