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What Genius Thought Of The 2.30am Rule?

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  • #32
    ejmaztec
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    Some people never stop wining.


  • #33
    FreudianSlippers
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    Chaotic_Forces wrote: »
    TBH "just buy earlier" or "buy more for whenever you want" is what causes alcoholism to increase I think.

    Think about it. You say to yourself "I want a drink, I'll grab 4/5/6 cans, oh it's too late". The next day you think the same about 8pm and say "I'll get more for next time so I don't make the same mistake as last night, like everyone tells me to" and you end up getting double. You'll more than likely drink at least one more can than you wanted to. It's stuff like that the government doesn't think through.

    Was the official reason for prventing kids buying alcohol?
    This is totally true - I buy from O'Briens online now and usually buy vodka in bulk, so I'll buy 4 litres of Absolut, Finlandia or Russian Standard (usually whatever is on sale that week) but I find that I drink more when I have more in the house all the time.

    I actually try not to drink Sunday-Thursday, but when it's there I kind of feel like "sure I can have 1"


  • #34
    RockinRolla
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    It's nothing about the foreign guy, I was putting the emphasis on the actual 'retardedness' of the law. Some free country we live in - and to those who are saying "Ah, just buy earlier"....I pity you on so many levels, it would be too generous of us to enlighten you.


  • #35
    questionmark?
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    Sea Sharp wrote: »
    It's 'thought of the 2:30am rule'

    And yes, it's a crap rule. Most other European pubs/clubs open much later.

    Instead we get the whole oh **** its half one only an hour left lets do shots to get fcuked attitude Then everybody leaves the clubs at the same time. So too many drunks on the streets on the same time only leads to trouble.

    Back on topic. Luckily the offie closing at 10pm has eradicated underage drinking and binge drinking completely. :rolleyes:


  • #36
    fonecrusher1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    Chaotic_Forces wrote: »
    TBH "just buy earlier" or "buy more for whenever you want" is what causes alcoholism to increase I think.

    Think about it. You say to yourself "I want a drink, I'll grab 4/5/6 cans, oh it's too late". The next day you think the same about 8pm and say "I'll get more for next time so I don't make the same mistake as last night, like everyone tells me to" and you end up getting double. You'll more than likely drink at least one more can than you wanted to. It's stuff like that the government doesn't think through.

    Was the official reason for prventing kids buying alcohol?

    I thought it was but i could be mistaken.

    If it was thought that it would decrease the amount of alcohol consumed by the population then dear o dear. How naive.


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  • #37
    Chaotic_Forces
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    hellyeah wrote: »
    agree completely. spot on. i sometimes work late ie past 10pm some days and on the way home i might fancy a couple of cans.
    there have been nights were i have looked a complete alco running into the local centre at a 1min to 10. I swear they are given me funny looks.
    and for those saying go to the pub. well its cheaper at home and i dont
    have to listen to all the numptys at the bar.

    And you think buying a bunch of cans during the day makes you look classy? No matter what way you look at it, you'll look bad to yourself. I used to be the same but now I don't give a damn. If they think I'm buying too much, so be it. If they really care, they'll say something, otherwise fu*k it.
    OisinT wrote: »
    This is totally true - I buy from O'Briens online now and usually buy vodka in bulk, so I'll buy 4 litres of Absolut, Finlandia or Russian Standard (usually whatever is on sale that week) but I find that I drink more when I have more in the house all the time.

    I actually try not to drink Sunday-Thursday, but when it's there I kind of feel like "sure I can have 1"

    It is a problem. For a while I used to double up (get twice as many cans) and I found out I'd drink more than I normally would, luckily I stopped and just went back to running around at the last minute.
    questionmark? wrote: »
    Instead we get the whole oh **** its half one only an hour left lets do shots to get fcuked attitude Then everybody leaves the clubs at the same time. So too many drunks on the streets on the same time only leads to trouble.

    Back on topic. Luckily the offie closing at 10pm has eradicated underage drinking and binge drinking completely. :rolleyes:

    That's a completely thing though. Generally people buy alcohol to drink at home or a party. If a pub is serving someone six Jack and cokes at 2am, they're at fault for giving that much; then the customer for buying it.

    But yeah, it worked wonders stopping the kids. :P
    fonecrusher1 wrote: »
    I thought it was but i could be mistaken.

    If it was thought that it would decrease the amount of alcohol consumed by the population then dear o dear. How naive.

    I was positive it was so the kids wouldn't have as much a chance to buy alcohol. But let's face it; most kids that get smashed with their friends aren't going to be in bed by 11pm with a kiss goodnight from mammy like the little angels the government thinks they are.


  • #38
    fonecrusher1
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    Chaotic_Forces wrote: »


    I was positive it was so the kids wouldn't have as much a chance to buy alcohol. But let's face it; most kids that get smashed with their friends aren't going to be in bed by 11pm with a kiss goodnight from mammy like the little angels the government thinks they are.

    Like i said, kids will get there hands on alcohol if they really want it. Regardless of the 10 o'clock rule.

    If off-licences closed at 9 it still wouldn't make any difference but it would just piss people off even more than already are.


    Actually to be honest its not that much of a big deal any more. It was at the start because we were all so used to being able to get drink up till 11. But hey you get used to it.


  • #39
    RockinRolla
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    fonecrusher1 wrote: »
    Like i said, kids will get there hands on alcohol if they really want it. Regardless of the 10 o'clock rule.

    If off-licences closed at 9 it still wouldn't make any difference but it would just piss people off even more than already are.


    Actually to be honest its not that much of a big deal any more. It was at the start because we were all so used to being able to get drink up till 11. But hey you get used to it.

    Do you not think that's a conformist attitude towards it. It's nothing about being unable to serve alcohol after ten, there's an underlying issue and that is why we have allowed ourselves to be controlled in this way.

    When will we say "Ehhh, No!"?


  • #40
    Chaotic_Forces
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    fonecrusher1 wrote: »
    Like i said, kids will get there hands on alcohol if they really want it. Regardless of the 10 o'clock rule.

    If off-licences closed at 9 it still wouldn't make any difference but it would just piss people off even more than already are.


    Actually to be honest its not that much of a big deal any more. It was at the start because we were all so used to being able to get drink up till 11. But hey you get used to it.

    I know it won't make a difference but you have the government of Ireland. Which is the biggest fu*k up since... anything really. It's not going to work.
    It's hard not that hard to get a fiver, get somoene about 20 to get you alcohol.

    Most places don't even ask for ID if you look at least 18 and are about 14.


  • #41
    MistyCheese
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    Chaotic_Forces wrote: »
    I was positive it was so the kids wouldn't have as much a chance to buy alcohol. But let's face it; most kids that get smashed with their friends aren't going to be in bed by 11pm with a kiss goodnight from mammy like the little angels the government thinks they are.

    Exactly. Who is more likely to be out and about after ten pm? A sixteen/seventeen year old or a twenty-seven - ninety-seven year old?


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  • #42
    Chaotic_Forces
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    MistyCheese wrote: »
    Exactly. Who is more likely to be out and about after ten pm? A sixteen/seventeen year old or a twenty-seven - ninety-seven year old?

    No you kind of got the wrong point.

    I just meant the types of kids that drink to get hammered with their friends (at least from what I've seen growing up) aren't going to be in bed early. They're parents don't give a damn or else they're just little bollockses that do what they want.

    Or maybe I got your point mixed up...

    Tell me, did you mean that literally or did you mean it in assumption? That a 16/17 year old shouldn't be out and about after 10pm and the government thinks that or did you mean it literally that the kids that age aren't going to be out after 10?


  • #43
    RockinRolla
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    Anyone willing to bet Fianna Fail will get in again?

    More prehistoric idea's to come, folks..


  • #44
    fonecrusher1
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    RockinRolla wrote: »
    Do you not think that's a conformist attitude towards it.

    What exactly is not conforming with this rule?

    Heading up to the local offie after 10 o'clock & arguing its your right to be served alcohol when you want it & then heading back home with no drink.:pac:


  • #45
    Minstrel27
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    biko wrote: »
    It seems this has some relevance somehow?

    Maybe because he was foreign. Some people will try to find outrage in anything.


  • #46
    strokemyclover
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    I think if people were a bit more responsible with their alcohol intake and there was a better support system in place for people who can't handle their drink, then there would be no need for such strict rules. So, yes there are two sides at fault here, but you're living in Ireland so you can't really complain can you?

    Just do like the rest of us and buy a truckload of booze for the week when at a supermarket doing the weekly shop - if that box of nappies take up too much space in your trolley put them back on the shelf and dress your kids with the bags you used to take the beer home.


  • #47
    MistyCheese
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    Chaotic_Forces wrote: »
    Tell me, did you mean that literally or did you mean it in assumption? That a 16/17 year old shouldn't be out and about after 10pm and the government thinks that or did you mean it literally that the kids that age aren't going to be out after 10?

    The kids that drink will still drink. Tbh, I was drinking at 14 but back then I could just walk into any off-licence and walk out with a bottle of Bacardi no problem. More than 10 years later I get asked for ID most of the time. (I also got a tattoo at 14 without being asked for ID.)

    What I mean is, it has very little to do with age. A 16/17 year old could well be out at after 10pm just like a "person of age" might be settled in for the night at a time well before that. It's 7:35 pm now and I won't be going out again for the night. But I'm sure if I did go out for whatever reason I'd find lots of teens still hanging around.


  • #48
    Chaotic_Forces
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    MistyCheese wrote: »
    The kids that drink will still drink. Tbh, I was drinking at 14 but back then I could just walk into any off-licence and walk out with a bottle of Bacardi no problem. More than 10 years later I get asked for ID most of the time. (I also got a tattoo at 14 without being asked for ID.)

    What I mean is, it has very little to do with age. A 16/17 year old could well be out at after 10pm just like a "person of age" might be settled in for the night at a time well before that. It's 7:32 pm now and I won't be going out again for the night. But I'm sure if I did go out for whatever reason I'd find lots of teens still hanging around.

    Alright, I understand, I got it wrong. :o

    I didn't drink till I was 18. But the thing is I saw kids drinking and by drinking I mean... 2am screaming at one another and puking after drinking about 10 cans and barely being about 15. The law either needs to demand an I.D. check all the time (within reason) and have a security camera at the counter so to see if the I.D. is fake, they can get caught easier and have the parents be parents.


  • #49
    poisonated
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    If I had a car I would much prefer to buy in bulk. It is much cheaper!


  • #50
    theparish
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    Its the 12.30 on a Sunday afternoon that pisses me off.YOu go down to the local shop for the paper and bottle of milk and you cant buy a bottle of plonk to wash down the spuds.


  • #51
    dazco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭dazco


    poisonated wrote: »
    If I had a car I would much prefer to buy in bulk. It is much cheaper!

    Drinking and driving's dangerous man....


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  • #52
    squod
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    Thought the OP was gonna be about traffic lights and speed signs.


  • #53
    FreudianSlippers
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    poisonated wrote: »
    If I had a car I would much prefer to buy in bulk. It is much cheaper!
    O'Brien's online is pretty good and is free shipping if over a certain amount.


  • #54
    RockinRolla
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    OisinT wrote: »
    O'Brien's online is pretty good and is free shipping if over a certain amount.

    Sammiches?


  • #55
    AnnyHallsal
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    Has anyone found it affected their scoring? I remember kissing a lot more frogs when places were open til 3.30. :pac:


  • #56
    tman
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    RockinRolla wrote: »
    Isn't this the rule that the British drew up a century ago? Why are we still enforcing it? It's mind-boggling. :confused:

    **** knows, I'm heading out to a club later that goes on from 11pm to 8am, then the afterparty starts...

    Ireland is so unbelievingly far behind the rest of Europe when it comes to this sort of thing!


  • #57
    RockinRolla
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    tman wrote: »
    **** knows, I'm heading out to a club later that goes on from 11pm to 8am, then the afterparty starts...

    Ireland is so unbelievingly far behind the rest of Europe when it comes to this sort of thing!

    Can I come with you? :o

    We can meet up for sex.


  • #58
    pebbles21
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    Chaotic_Forces wrote: »
    little bollockses

    :D Is is just me or did anybody else lol at that??


  • #59
    Sprouts
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    RockinRolla wrote: »
    Anyone willing to bet Fianna Fail will get in again?

    More prehistoric idea's to come, folks..

    Many of Fianna Fail have pubs or some financial interest in them. People were hitting the off licence for a few instead of their pubs, thats what the 10pm law is about, nothing else.


  • #60
    DaveTheWave
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    i miss going into the off license leaving the pub at 11:30 to get a few cans for back in the gaf, and one for the walk home


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  • #61
    FreudianSlippers
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    RockinRolla wrote: »
    Sammiches?
    http://www.obrienswine.ie/


    Do they not exist outside Dublin? Thought they did!


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