What Genius Thought Of The 2.30am Rule?

RockinRolla

Isn't it nothing more than a farce that a grown adult can't purchase a bottle of wine in a shop after 10pm in this country? I went down to Texaco last night to buy a bottle of red for the missus and myself. I asked the foreign guy at 9.55pm for a bottle, by the time he served me it was 10.01pm and he replied "Oh, I can't serve you"....what the hell?

I was so gobsmacked, I couldn't help but burst out laughing to the point where the guy got kind of freaked out..lulz. What a joke with this 2.30am rule also? Isn't this the rule that the British drew up a century ago? Why are we still enforcing it? It's mind-boggling.

Local-womanizer

It must be a good joke if you were laughing that hard....


But I agree with the offy thing,10 o clock is annoying but I just buy my beer the night before.

Canis Lupus

Write to your local TD detailing your outrage.

orourkeda

Why didnt you got to the pub and get sh*tfaced

Sea Sharp

It's 'thought of the 2:30am rule'

And yes, it's a crap rule. Most other European pubs/clubs open much later.

ziggy

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mikemac

Anyone here old enough to remember "holy hour" on Sunday?

Minstrel27

feelingstressed wrote: »

Anyone here old enough to remember "holy hour" on Sunday?

It wasn't that long ago.

orourkeda

I thought the whold idea was to help reduce binge drinking

Duggy747

The kids were used as an excuse to close offys at 10pm, lousy punks! :pac:

Mark200

Don't think it's a huge deal tbh. The law was fairly well publicised so nearly everyone knows that they've to buy their wine or whatever before 10pm.

biko

RockinRolla wrote: »

I went down to Texaco last night to buy a bottle of red for the missus and myself. I asked the foreign guy at 9.55pm for a bottle, by the time he served me it was 10.01pm and he replied "Oh, I can't serve you"....what the hell?

It seems this has some relevance somehow?

Anyway, just keep a few bottles stored next time.

Logical Fallacy

biko wrote: »

It seems this has some relevance somehow?

Right up there with the reference to the British, even though the closing times changed in 2008.

scientific1982

Its bull**** by a nanny state. Probably saved me from some serious hangovers though.

Agent J

I hate the 10pm rule. It was only brought in to try and force people back into the pubs.

The pretense that its supposed to curb binge drinking is nothing more than a cover. People will find ways around it by buying in advance and having extra around just in case. Which admittly can be done but its not the point. It shouldnt be the government telling us what and how they think we can buy alcohol. By putting an arbitary time limit then people end up drinking aganist a clock.

If you are over 18, get drunk and do something criminal. Then here is an idea.. you get extra punishment for it instead of less. If you allow yourself to get to that state then it is your fault. None of this alcohol as a mitgating factor crap. Add a couple of years, couple of thousand euro to fines and enforce it if committed while drink and watch people cop on.

FreudianSlippers

Duggy747 wrote: »

The kids were used as an excuse to close offys at 10pm, lousy punks! :pac:

Which actually makes absolutely no sense... in that case shouldn't offies only be open after 10pm?!

Yakult

Meh, I know of plenty local pubs that will sell takeaway bottles (cans etc.) from behind the bar well into the night. Handy bit of cash for them.

PeterIanStaker

Thought up by the Publican Party to keep their cronies onside. Nanny state horsesh!t,


but this thread has reminded me to go get cans:)

FreudianSlippers

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

Thought up by the Publican Party to keep their cronies onside. Nanny state horsesh!t,


but this thread has reminded me to go get cans:)

Yeah, obviously the pubs don't want us drinking at home, so they lobby to get the offies closed early so we'll be forced to hit the pubs.

MistyCheese

The worst thing about this law is that it doesn't solve any drink related problems. It doesn't reduce binge-drinking. Binge drinkers tend to stock up anyway, by nature of the fact that they require large amounts of the stuff, this only encourages that practice. It doesn't cut underage drinking, teens still either buy within the allowed timeframe or steal and that can be done at any time. It just inconviences the law-abiding regular people who happen to buy alcohol and perhaps don't work 9 - 5 hours and want to buy a drink after their shift finishes at 11pm.

The second worst thing is that I've gotten confused before and mixed up the times. It's 10:30 am to 10 pm NOT 10 am to 10:30 pm.

But, for people who complain that they can't get served at 10:01 pm, it's not the fault of the person serving you. I think the tills won't scan alcohol outside of the designated hours. I'm not certain, I don't work in retail so maybe someone will correct me but I think that's how it works.

fonecrusher1

RockinRolla wrote: »

Isn't it nothing more than a farce that a grown adult can't purchase a bottle of wine in a shop after 10pm in this country? I went down to Texaco last night to buy a bottle of red for the missus and myself. I asked the foreign guy at 9.55pm for a bottle, by the time he served me it was 10.01pm and he replied "Oh, I can't serve you"....what the hell?

I was so gobsmacked, I couldn't help but burst out laughing to the point where the guy got kind of freaked out..lulz. What a joke with this 2.30am rule also? Isn't this the rule that the British drew up a century ago? Why are we still enforcing it? It's mind-boggling.

Why didn't you just make him aware that you wanted to buy wine as soon as you realised your predicament?

Or maybe ask whoever was in front of you could you get to the front of the que as the 10 o'clock rule was about to prevent the till from accepting alcohol purchases.

You have to speak up in these situations. At the end of the day the guy behind the till doesn't give a sh!t about you not getting drink so you have to take the initiative. To be fair to my local dunnes, the till staff usually let people with drink come to the front of the que when it gets dangerously close to 10.


btw i think its a retarded rule. Its things like this that make us look thick.:rolleyes:

msg11

Mark200 wrote: »

Don't think it's a huge deal tbh. The law was fairly well publicised so nearly everyone knows that they've to buy their wine or whatever before 10pm.

It's a huge deal to people who work in 24 hour supermarkets and don't want there fellow comredes thinking there raging alcholics buying 12 can's every weekend.

I should be allowed by drink when I need ****ing drink, not cause some clown in the dail said so.

Chaotic_Forces

Stops kids getting smashed. It really works. Now instead of kids getting their older brother/sister/whoever to get them alcohol at night, they get them to get it earlier. It works perfectly!

So before any of you say it's retarded, think again.

The government planned and tried to stop underage drinking happening so often and they did.

Instead of an extra hour worth of underage drinking (10pm-11pm) they only get to 10pm. It drastically reduced underage drinkers since they can't buy alcohol till 11pm.

At least that's what I think the government thinks.

On a more serious note, it's a load of bollocks. There are a fair few times when it's about half ten and I think "I wouldn't mind a few cans or a naggin". But no, I cannot. I have to think of the kids! And how they now just get pissed at an earlier hour.


TL;DR: the government are idiots and it ruins the freedoms we should have.

PeterIanStaker

OisinT wrote: »

Yeah, obviously the pubs don't want us drinking at home, so they lobby to get the offies closed early so we'll be forced to hit the pubs.

Gimme an oul fellas pub over a cafe bar any day though.

mp3guy

MistyCheese wrote: »

But, for people who complain that they can't get served at 10:01 pm, it's not the fault of the person serving you. I think the tills won't scan alcohol outside of the designated hours. I'm not certain, I don't work in retail so maybe someone will correct me but I think that's how it works.

This is true.

FreudianSlippers

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

There are a fair few times when it's about half ten and I think "I wouldn't mind a few cans or a naggin". But no, I cannot. I have to think of the kids! And how they now just get pissed at an earlier hour.

This is exactly the point. To everyone that just says "who cares, just buy earlier!" obviously has never been sitting around and suddenly felt like having a drink only to have it be after 10 and go FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
:mad:

Ridiculous

FreudianSlippers

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

Gimme an oul fellas pub over a cafe bar any day though.

I'm just saying sometimes I want to drink at home and not with a bunch of ****.

fonecrusher1

Its a load of bollox.

If kids want to get their paws on drink they will find a way no matter what time they stop serving at.

Inconveniencing everybody else to 'solve' this problem is just....thick.

MistyCheese

mp3guy wrote: »

This is true.

Thank you. It's good to have it confirmed.

Chaotic_Forces

OisinT wrote: »

This is exactly the point. To everyone that just says "who cares, just buy earlier!" obviously has never been sitting around and suddenly felt like having a drink only to have it be after 10 and go FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
:mad:

Ridiculous

TBH "just buy earlier" or "buy more for whenever you want" is what causes alcoholism to increase I think.

Think about it. You say to yourself "I want a drink, I'll grab 4/5/6 cans, oh it's too late". The next day you think the same about 8pm and say "I'll get more for next time so I don't make the same mistake as last night, like everyone tells me to" and you end up getting double. You'll more than likely drink at least one more can than you wanted to. It's stuff like that the government doesn't think through.

Was the official reason for prventing kids buying alcohol?

hellyeah

OisinT wrote: »

This is exactly the point. To everyone that just says "who cares, just buy earlier!" obviously has never been sitting around and suddenly felt like having a drink only to have it be after 10 and go FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
:mad:

Ridiculous

agree completely. spot on. i sometimes work late ie past 10pm some days and on the way home i might fancy a couple of cans.
there have been nights were i have looked a complete alco running into the local centre at a 1min to 10. I swear they are given me funny looks.
and for those saying go to the pub. well its cheaper at home and i dont
have to listen to all the numptys at the bar.

ejmaztec

Some people never stop wining.

FreudianSlippers

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

TBH "just buy earlier" or "buy more for whenever you want" is what causes alcoholism to increase I think.

Think about it. You say to yourself "I want a drink, I'll grab 4/5/6 cans, oh it's too late". The next day you think the same about 8pm and say "I'll get more for next time so I don't make the same mistake as last night, like everyone tells me to" and you end up getting double. You'll more than likely drink at least one more can than you wanted to. It's stuff like that the government doesn't think through.

Was the official reason for prventing kids buying alcohol?

This is totally true - I buy from O'Briens online now and usually buy vodka in bulk, so I'll buy 4 litres of Absolut, Finlandia or Russian Standard (usually whatever is on sale that week) but I find that I drink more when I have more in the house all the time.

I actually try not to drink Sunday-Thursday, but when it's there I kind of feel like "sure I can have 1"

RockinRolla

It's nothing about the foreign guy, I was putting the emphasis on the actual 'retardedness' of the law. Some free country we live in - and to those who are saying "Ah, just buy earlier"....I pity you on so many levels, it would be too generous of us to enlighten you.

questionmark?

Sea Sharp wrote: »

It's 'thought of the 2:30am rule'

And yes, it's a crap rule. Most other European pubs/clubs open much later.

Instead we get the whole oh **** its half one only an hour left lets do shots to get fcuked attitude Then everybody leaves the clubs at the same time. So too many drunks on the streets on the same time only leads to trouble.

Back on topic. Luckily the offie closing at 10pm has eradicated underage drinking and binge drinking completely. :rolleyes:

fonecrusher1

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

TBH "just buy earlier" or "buy more for whenever you want" is what causes alcoholism to increase I think.

Think about it. You say to yourself "I want a drink, I'll grab 4/5/6 cans, oh it's too late". The next day you think the same about 8pm and say "I'll get more for next time so I don't make the same mistake as last night, like everyone tells me to" and you end up getting double. You'll more than likely drink at least one more can than you wanted to. It's stuff like that the government doesn't think through.

Was the official reason for prventing kids buying alcohol?

I thought it was but i could be mistaken.

If it was thought that it would decrease the amount of alcohol consumed by the population then dear o dear. How naive.

Chaotic_Forces

hellyeah wrote: »

agree completely. spot on. i sometimes work late ie past 10pm some days and on the way home i might fancy a couple of cans.
there have been nights were i have looked a complete alco running into the local centre at a 1min to 10. I swear they are given me funny looks.
and for those saying go to the pub. well its cheaper at home and i dont
have to listen to all the numptys at the bar.

And you think buying a bunch of cans during the day makes you look classy? No matter what way you look at it, you'll look bad to yourself. I used to be the same but now I don't give a damn. If they think I'm buying too much, so be it. If they really care, they'll say something, otherwise fu*k it.

OisinT wrote: »

This is totally true - I buy from O'Briens online now and usually buy vodka in bulk, so I'll buy 4 litres of Absolut, Finlandia or Russian Standard (usually whatever is on sale that week) but I find that I drink more when I have more in the house all the time.

I actually try not to drink Sunday-Thursday, but when it's there I kind of feel like "sure I can have 1"

It is a problem. For a while I used to double up (get twice as many cans) and I found out I'd drink more than I normally would, luckily I stopped and just went back to running around at the last minute.

questionmark? wrote: »

Instead we get the whole oh **** its half one only an hour left lets do shots to get fcuked attitude Then everybody leaves the clubs at the same time. So too many drunks on the streets on the same time only leads to trouble.

Back on topic. Luckily the offie closing at 10pm has eradicated underage drinking and binge drinking completely. :rolleyes:

That's a completely thing though. Generally people buy alcohol to drink at home or a party. If a pub is serving someone six Jack and cokes at 2am, they're at fault for giving that much; then the customer for buying it.

But yeah, it worked wonders stopping the kids. :P

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

I thought it was but i could be mistaken.

If it was thought that it would decrease the amount of alcohol consumed by the population then dear o dear. How naive.

I was positive it was so the kids wouldn't have as much a chance to buy alcohol. But let's face it; most kids that get smashed with their friends aren't going to be in bed by 11pm with a kiss goodnight from mammy like the little angels the government thinks they are.

fonecrusher1

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

I was positive it was so the kids wouldn't have as much a chance to buy alcohol. But let's face it; most kids that get smashed with their friends aren't going to be in bed by 11pm with a kiss goodnight from mammy like the little angels the government thinks they are.

Like i said, kids will get there hands on alcohol if they really want it. Regardless of the 10 o'clock rule.

If off-licences closed at 9 it still wouldn't make any difference but it would just piss people off even more than already are.


Actually to be honest its not that much of a big deal any more. It was at the start because we were all so used to being able to get drink up till 11. But hey you get used to it.

RockinRolla

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Like i said, kids will get there hands on alcohol if they really want it. Regardless of the 10 o'clock rule.

If off-licences closed at 9 it still wouldn't make any difference but it would just piss people off even more than already are.


Actually to be honest its not that much of a big deal any more. It was at the start because we were all so used to being able to get drink up till 11. But hey you get used to it.

Do you not think that's a conformist attitude towards it. It's nothing about being unable to serve alcohol after ten, there's an underlying issue and that is why we have allowed ourselves to be controlled in this way.

When will we say "Ehhh, No!"?

Chaotic_Forces

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Like i said, kids will get there hands on alcohol if they really want it. Regardless of the 10 o'clock rule.

If off-licences closed at 9 it still wouldn't make any difference but it would just piss people off even more than already are.


Actually to be honest its not that much of a big deal any more. It was at the start because we were all so used to being able to get drink up till 11. But hey you get used to it.

I know it won't make a difference but you have the government of Ireland. Which is the biggest fu*k up since... anything really. It's not going to work.
It's hard not that hard to get a fiver, get somoene about 20 to get you alcohol.

Most places don't even ask for ID if you look at least 18 and are about 14.

MistyCheese

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

I was positive it was so the kids wouldn't have as much a chance to buy alcohol. But let's face it; most kids that get smashed with their friends aren't going to be in bed by 11pm with a kiss goodnight from mammy like the little angels the government thinks they are.

Exactly. Who is more likely to be out and about after ten pm? A sixteen/seventeen year old or a twenty-seven - ninety-seven year old?

Chaotic_Forces

MistyCheese wrote: »

Exactly. Who is more likely to be out and about after ten pm? A sixteen/seventeen year old or a twenty-seven - ninety-seven year old?

No you kind of got the wrong point.

I just meant the types of kids that drink to get hammered with their friends (at least from what I've seen growing up) aren't going to be in bed early. They're parents don't give a damn or else they're just little bollockses that do what they want.

Or maybe I got your point mixed up...

Tell me, did you mean that literally or did you mean it in assumption? That a 16/17 year old shouldn't be out and about after 10pm and the government thinks that or did you mean it literally that the kids that age aren't going to be out after 10?

RockinRolla

Anyone willing to bet Fianna Fail will get in again?

More prehistoric idea's to come, folks..

fonecrusher1

RockinRolla wrote: »

Do you not think that's a conformist attitude towards it.

What exactly is not conforming with this rule?

Heading up to the local offie after 10 o'clock & arguing its your right to be served alcohol when you want it & then heading back home with no drink.:pac:

Minstrel27

biko wrote: »

It seems this has some relevance somehow?

Maybe because he was foreign. Some people will try to find outrage in anything.

strokemyclover

I think if people were a bit more responsible with their alcohol intake and there was a better support system in place for people who can't handle their drink, then there would be no need for such strict rules. So, yes there are two sides at fault here, but you're living in Ireland so you can't really complain can you?

Just do like the rest of us and buy a truckload of booze for the week when at a supermarket doing the weekly shop - if that box of nappies take up too much space in your trolley put them back on the shelf and dress your kids with the bags you used to take the beer home.

MistyCheese

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

Tell me, did you mean that literally or did you mean it in assumption? That a 16/17 year old shouldn't be out and about after 10pm and the government thinks that or did you mean it literally that the kids that age aren't going to be out after 10?

The kids that drink will still drink. Tbh, I was drinking at 14 but back then I could just walk into any off-licence and walk out with a bottle of Bacardi no problem. More than 10 years later I get asked for ID most of the time. (I also got a tattoo at 14 without being asked for ID.)

What I mean is, it has very little to do with age. A 16/17 year old could well be out at after 10pm just like a "person of age" might be settled in for the night at a time well before that. It's 7:35 pm now and I won't be going out again for the night. But I'm sure if I did go out for whatever reason I'd find lots of teens still hanging around.

Chaotic_Forces

MistyCheese wrote: »

The kids that drink will still drink. Tbh, I was drinking at 14 but back then I could just walk into any off-licence and walk out with a bottle of Bacardi no problem. More than 10 years later I get asked for ID most of the time. (I also got a tattoo at 14 without being asked for ID.)

What I mean is, it has very little to do with age. A 16/17 year old could well be out at after 10pm just like a "person of age" might be settled in for the night at a time well before that. It's 7:32 pm now and I won't be going out again for the night. But I'm sure if I did go out for whatever reason I'd find lots of teens still hanging around.

Alright, I understand, I got it wrong.

I didn't drink till I was 18. But the thing is I saw kids drinking and by drinking I mean... 2am screaming at one another and puking after drinking about 10 cans and barely being about 15. The law either needs to demand an I.D. check all the time (within reason) and have a security camera at the counter so to see if the I.D. is fake, they can get caught easier and have the parents be parents.

poisonated

If I had a car I would much prefer to buy in bulk. It is much cheaper!

theparish

Its the 12.30 on a Sunday afternoon that pisses me off.YOu go down to the local shop for the paper and bottle of milk and you cant buy a bottle of plonk to wash down the spuds.

dazco

poisonated wrote: »

If I had a car I would much prefer to buy in bulk. It is much cheaper!

Drinking and driving's dangerous man....