What's the point in having streetlights?

topper75 · 09-09-2010 03:45PM

I thanked you there so you don't feel left out.

24hour society is a hollow soundbite when you consider that nothing happens in many of these lit up places between 12 and 7am. It is a waste of valuable energy and plays havoc with natural cycles. No getting away from that. Man seeks to do a lot of things. He seeks to tear down forests as well on a huge scale. Should we permit that because it is deemed to be 'civilized'? We can I suppose, but down the line we pay the ultimate price as a species.

Sykk · 09-09-2010 04:25PM

topper75 wrote: »

I thanked you there so you don't feel left out.

24hour society is a hollow soundbite when you consider that nothing happens in many of these lit up places between 12 and 7am. It is a waste of valuable energy and plays havoc with natural cycles. No getting away from that. Man seeks to do a lot of things. He seeks to tear down forests as well on a huge scale. Should we permit that because it is deemed to be 'civilized'? We can I suppose, but down the line we pay the ultimate price as a species.

If you're that worried about it, go live in the forest, without the warmth of central heating, processed food and light to let you see what you're doing. You'll help by doing that you know.

take everything · 09-09-2010 05:11PM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

how do street lights stop speeding?

Use the brake like everyone else probably, i dunno.

Susannahmia · 09-09-2010 07:05PM

SuperInfinity wrote: »

What on earth is the point in having those huge, energy-guzzling monstrosities threatening the darkness of our home when we want to sleep.

Black out blinds ftw.

questionmark? · 09-09-2010 10:34PM

SuperInfinity wrote: »

The cardboard box "joke" doesn't even make sense. First of all, just saying someone lives in a cardboard box out of nowhere and for no reason does not have all the components of a joke. I know the image might seem funny to you, but there has to be a bit more to a joke than that. It's not just automatically funny to say it, otherwise why not just say it all day long about everyone that says anything that has anything to do with housing?

Secondly, let's hold off for a second from becoming delerious from the absolute hilarity of the idea of someone living in a cardboard box. Suppose I did live in a cardboard box. If it wasn't big enough for a curtain, then I wouldn't be able to fit in it myself. If I were very, very small and it really was that small, couldn't I just put the curtain outside the box? I mean I've heard of people not being able to think outside the box but this is just ridiculous...

Sorry about that post i thought i was posting in after hours for a minute :rolleyes:

Skinfull · 09-09-2010 10:40PM

I'm gonna ignore the other 5 pages of posts and resume I am the first person to say this...

...to light the street!

johnmcdnl · 09-09-2010 10:50PM

Saruman wrote: »

Without street lights people turn in to rampaging looters.... fact.

well according to that article the blackouts let all the black and Puerto Ricans rob electronic shops and then rap music took off so it's not all bad :pac::pac::pac:
imagine a world with no rap music and probably no 50 cent wannabes running round the place - we'd have been so much worse off without that blackout :pac::pac:

SuperInfinity · 09-09-2010 11:13PM

Sykk wrote: »

If you're that worried about it, go live in the forest, without the warmth of central heating, processed food and light to let you see what you're doing. You'll help by doing that you know.

You don't own the cities or towns anymore than we do, so why should we leave? Why don't you leave? There's no point in people who are enlightened about these things living in the wild and allowing the rest of ye fools to continue destroying our planet.

We should have stayed in Africa, that's the climate we're evolved to live in. It is warm all the time in the place humans came from, or at least within very tolerable levels, NOT uncomfortable.

Unfortunately, we can't do that now, because there are not enough fruits and vegetables in the trees and vegetation in Ireland.

Next thing you know, the government will come in and say they want to build roads through here and there because they own the land you're on. They are also polluting the air and putting toxins in our food.

Mal-Adjusted · 10-09-2010 01:07AM

SuperInfinity wrote: »

Or alternatively it makes the driver think: "Ah built up place ahead, full visibility, probably a grand road, time to speed up". I have to admit that I personally do speed up a slight bit in the very well lit places, because I can see everything.

no disrespect, but that is fairly twisted logic. It sounds like you're making excuses for being a bad driver

Con1988 wrote: »

jesus!! Anytime any of you sh*t kickers ever get any closer to civilisation, you give out!! Maybe this so called "project" was started to cut out walking around the village with oil lanterns or candles!!

Shhhhh. grown ups are talking.

SuperInfinity wrote: »

You don't own the cities or towns anymore than we do, so why should we leave? Why don't you leave?

because you're the ones unhappy with the streetlights and throwing a hissy fit about it,perhaps?

Adyx · 10-09-2010 01:11AM

:pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnNyxy7XPfs

RockinRolla · 10-09-2010 02:04AM

phill106 wrote: »

The two of you can thank each other all day, I will be with the rest of the civilized world, strolling the lit up streets of the night.
Since man discovered fire he has sought to light up the darkness.
Plus we now live in a 24 hour society. Just because it is your nighty night time, does not mean the rest of the people sleep.

Where do you live? I live in Dublin.

u140acro3xs7dm · 10-09-2010 04:15AM

i remember been in Australia where the lights are a lot dimmer and more spread out, It was very weird walking in built up areas and only been able to see 15 ft in front of you. Especially when you hear a group of people coming your direction.

Lumen · 10-09-2010 08:33AM

Does turning off lights at night actually save any electricity?

Base load power plant

topper75 · 10-09-2010 10:36AM

Sykk wrote: »

If you're that worried about it, go live in the forest, without the warmth of central heating, processed food and light to let you see what you're doing. You'll help by doing that you know.

Could be a fun regime for a while in summer!

Seriously, we are only talking about streetlights in this thread. Care to reason with us why it is necessary that they be on in a rural village between 12 and 7 at night, given that nobody is likely to about between those hours and given that the streetlights use up valuable energy?

Banned Account · 10-09-2010 10:38AM

Without Street Lights, we would not have witnessed Fred Astair dancing the way he did in "singing in the rain" - this alone is ample reason for their continued existence.

topper75 · 10-09-2010 10:43AM

Fitzcaraldo wrote: »

Without Street Lights, we would not have witnessed Fred Astair dancing the way he did in "singing in the rain" - this alone is ample reason for their continued existence.

Remind us which rural Irish village that was shot in again?

Also was he out at half four in the morning? I can't remember the exact premise. Must watch again!

Banned Account · 10-09-2010 10:47AM

topper75 wrote: »

Remind us which rural Irish village that was shot in again?

Also was he out at half four in the morning? I can't remember the exact premise. Must watch again!

'Twas filmed in hackballscross and it was actually 3.47am.

XxMCRxBabyxX · 10-09-2010 10:58AM

topper75 wrote: »

Could be a fun regime for a while in summer!

Seriously, we are only talking about streetlights in this thread. Care to reason with us why it is necessary that they be on in a rural village between 12 and 7 at night, given that nobody is likely to about between those hours and given that the streetlights use up valuable energy?

In case someone may be walking home in those hours and i'm sure they would rather not walk in the dark risking all kinds of things.

And yes I have walked home that late

topper75 · 10-09-2010 11:05AM

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

walk in the dark risking all kinds of things.

This just screams "TOWNIE".
Go and live in the town if you need to wander about at night. Country is broke enough without villages being lit up through the wee hours.

XxMCRxBabyxX · 10-09-2010 11:12AM

topper75 wrote: »

This just screams "TOWNIE".
Go and live in the town if you need to wander about at night. Country is broke enough without villages being lit up through the wee hours.

It's not wandering, it's walking home! how else am I meant to get there?!

topper75 · 10-09-2010 11:24AM

I often walk home late in country areas too. Firstly, your eyes become accustomed to the dark (although sadly this facility is notably weaker in townies and people who watch too much television). Secondly, if cars go by, step up onto the verge while they pass. It is straightforward.

If unhappy with the above - try bringing a flashlight. The power used by your batteries for the short while it takes you to get home isn't a spit in the ocean compared to the power used up by rows of streetlights turned on constantly through hours of darkness.

XxMCRxBabyxX · 10-09-2010 11:28AM

topper75 wrote: »

I often walk home late in country areas too. Firstly, your eyes become accustomed to the dark (although sadly this facility is notably weaker in townies and people who watch too much television). Secondly, if cars go by, step up onto the verge while they pass. It is straightforward.

If unhappy with the above - try bringing a flashlight. The power used by your batteries for the short while it takes you to get home isn't a spit in the ocean compared to the power used up by rows of streetlights turned on constantly through hours of darkness.

There is no verge part of the way I walk. Just road. Withouht streetlights I wouldn't be able to see that well, and neither would the card. Streetlights are there for a reason. I find it hard to believe this is even being argued.

And what do you know about my eyesight that you can judge if it's harder for me to become accustomed to the dark?

topper75 · 10-09-2010 11:43AM

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

There is no verge part of the way I walk. Just road. Withouht streetlights I wouldn't be able to see that well, and neither would the card. Streetlights are there for a reason. I find it hard to believe this is even being argued.

I find it hard to believe that people genuinely believe that streetlights should be on all through the night in a village on the basis of minimal odds that someone might be walking around in the wee hours.

Of course there is a ditch or a verge or somesuch. Are you walking through a tunnel?

Trust me, the car (driver) can see quite well without streetlights. They have headlights.

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

And what do you know about my eyesight that you can judge if it's harder for me to become accustomed to the dark?

Not at all directed at you personally. I trust and hope your eyesight is fine. There are others however who are hopeless at this, and I have observed a tight correlation between that and an urban address, a fondness for television, an aversion to anywhere not lit up, and a dismissive abhorrance of time-honoured rural ways.

XxMCRxBabyxX · 10-09-2010 11:46AM

topper75 wrote: »

I find it hard to believe that people genuinely believe that streetlights should be on all through the night in a village on the basis of minimal odds that someone might be walking around in the wee hours.

Of course there is a ditch or a verge or somesuch. Are you walking through a tunnel?

Trust me, the car (driver) can see quite well without streetlights. They have headlights.

Not at all directed at you personally. I trust and hope your eyesight is fine. There are others however who are hopeless at this, and I have observed a tight correlation between that and an urban address, a fondness for television, an aversion to anywhere not lit up, and a dismissive abhorrance of time-honoured rural ways.

You haven't seen the road I have to walk on... It is literally a road and people's fences, a slight ditch in parts but you could kill yourself trying to walk on them either. The road is ridiculously dangerous sometimes. Especially when Cars decide to drive on the other side of the road

Banned Account · 10-09-2010 12:47PM

The only logical solution to your problem gents - the man was a visionary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwDkoJKPr4g

SuperInfinity · 10-09-2010 09:31PM

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

In case someone may be walking home in those hours and i'm sure they would rather not walk in the dark risking all kinds of things.

And yes I have walked home that late

I can't believe you're using your arsing around late at night as an excuse for why we should all spend millions on these things, disrupt biology and hurt the environment by not conserving energy, for something that people like you might make useful of one in a million times. The ultimate in extravagence and waste, what a disgrace. Callousness, too lazy to make sure you can get home properly and do your exercise at a proper time for your health.

It's the culture that needs to change, the culture of saying that shur it doesn't matter, it won't break the bank. Believe it or not, some of us don't like to see a tap running or a light switched on for hours meaninglessly, or something else switched on for no reason. Just because one time it was ever useful to anyone who was too flipping lazy to organize their own way home then that must mean it should always be there?

We should have to put up with all that waste because of your bad habits and one in a million times you want to walk home at night like that? Ridiculous.

Once when I was younger, the phone in my parents house wasn't working, and I had to walk home all the way from the city by myself 10 miles. I used moonlight, footpaths, a good route, crossing the road when I heard a car coming. I did get to a point where I couldn't go any further because it was so dark and so I waited until it started to get bright again in the morning.

I'm not complaining because I should have been better organized. I should have tried to get a taxi or something. And you know what? It wasn't the worst thing in the world that could happen to someone. There was no danger there in any place at all because I obviously wouldn't just walk around any old place against the cars. You would not have some massive spike in pedestrian death if the lights were all switched off, especially in this day and age of mobile phones etc.

And if people did put their lives at risk (which they wouldn't and won't) it's their own fault. There are many baby things we could do to diminish our own lives but possibly decrease the risk of death by a tiny, tiny, tiny amount.... but it wouldn't anyway because people wouldn't do it. Of course I'd agree there are a lot of irrational idiots out there, but when it comes to their own lives something amazingly springs to life up there most of the time.

XxMCRxBabyxX · 10-09-2010 11:18PM

SuperInfinity wrote: »

I can't believe you're using your arsing around late at night as an excuse for why we should all spend millions on these things, disrupt biology and hurt the environment by not conserving energy, for something that people like you might make useful of one in a million times. The ultimate in extravagence and waste, what a disgrace. Callousness, too lazy to make sure you can get home properly and do your exercise at a proper time for your health.

It's the culture that needs to change, the culture of saying that shur it doesn't matter, it won't break the bank. Believe it or not, some of us don't like to see a tap running or a light switched on for hours meaninglessly, or something else switched on for no reason. Just because one time it was ever useful to anyone who was too flipping lazy to organize their own way home then that must mean it should always be there?

We should have to put up with all that waste because of your bad habits and one in a million times you want to walk home at night like that? Ridiculous.

Once when I was younger, the phone in my parents house wasn't working, and I had to walk home all the way from the city by myself 10 miles. I used moonlight, footpaths, a good route, crossing the road when I heard a car coming. I did get to a point where I couldn't go any further because it was so dark and so I waited until it started to get bright again in the morning.

I'm not complaining because I should have been better organized. I should have tried to get a taxi or something. And you know what? It wasn't the worst thing in the world that could happen to someone. There was no danger there in any place at all because I obviously wouldn't just walk around any old place against the cars. You would not have some massive spike in pedestrian death if the lights were all switched off, especially in this day and age of mobile phones etc.

And if people did put their lives at risk (which they wouldn't and won't) it's their own fault. There are many baby things we could do to diminish our own lives but possibly decrease the risk of death by a tiny, tiny, tiny amount.... but it wouldn't anyway because people wouldn't do it. Of course I'd agree there are a lot of irrational idiots out there, but when it comes to their own lives something amazingly springs to life up there most of the time.

ARSING around? how on earth do you know what I'm doing and why? Ever think I may be walking home from work or the like?

CorkMan · 10-09-2010 11:21PM

*reminisces back when there were no street lights*

Ahh, yes, to prevent the spread of cannabilism.

2 stroke · 11-09-2010 12:04AM

streetlights help rapists avoid the ugly ones.

What's the point in having streetlights?

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