Gardai v. the Joeys (Dublin Airport Police)

jonsnow · 26-09-2009 02:54PM #1

Anyone else see this story in the Phoenix or the tribune.Hilarious.Apparently the gardai and DAP haven,t been getting on very well for some time now.The gardai being such an elite body tend to look down their noses at the DAP nicknaming them joeys (after the baby kangaroos that can,t leave there mothers pouchie.ie having no powers off the airport grounds) while also resenting their superior pay.
Any way it seems a couple of off-duty and retired guards got stroppy with the joeys and found themselves in bracelets.The Phoenix went into it in more depth but theirs nothing online.But heres the tribunes version of events.

http://www.tribune.ie/news/article/2009/sep/13/gardai-may-sue-over-arrests/

4zn76tysfajdxp · 26-09-2009 02:56PM

Quoted for those on boards mobile or whatever.

Gardaí may sue over arrests
Ali Bracken
A GARDA superintendent and a former garda were arrested and handcuffed at Dublin airport within three days of each other by airport police following minor traffic incidents and are now considering taking legal action about how they were treated.

On 27 August, an off-duty superintendent was asked to move his car in the airport's multi-storey carpark. A verbal altercation ensued and the garda, who refused to identify himself, was arrested and handcuffed by airport police for failing to adhere to by-laws within the airport.

He was then "frog-marched" through the airport and handed over to local gardaí, who have a station within the airport. He was released without charge shortly after this.

Three days later, a retired garda failed to stop at a pedestrian walkway at the departures road at the airport.

The airport policeman attempted to stop the former garda crossing the road because of traffic but he "darted out" regardless.

Again, a verbal altercation ensued and this man was also arrested, handcuffed, walked through the airport and handed over to gardaí. Soon after, he too was released without charge.

By-laws exist within Dublin airport giving airport police the authority to arrest people before handing them over to gardaí.

A spokeswoman for Aer Rianta said: "Two members of the public were arrested in these incidents. As far as we're concerned, procedures were followed in the two cases. Airport police have powers of arrest. The by-laws are there and anyone in contravention of them can be arrested."

It is understood that the superintendent and former garda arrested are unhappy at how they were treated by the airport police and both are exploring whether legal action is a possibility.

26-09-2009 03:04PM

How about they do the same as the majority of other people who get hassled and treated unfairly at the hands of guards and grin and bear it..

Smyth · 26-09-2009 03:05PM

On 27 August, an off-duty superintendent was asked to move his car in the airport's multi-storey carpark. A verbal altercation ensued and the garda, who refused to identify himself, was arrested and handcuffed by airport police for failing to adhere to by-laws within the airport.

Proper ****ing order. What makes him think he's above the rules? Not moving your car and not identifying yourself in an airport is looking for trouble.

Gardaí are there to uphold the law. That means them too. ****in idiots.

Cianos · 26-09-2009 03:10PM

There'll be war over this 'til the day pigs can fly.

biko · 26-09-2009 04:26PM

Tasers for the joeys! - only to use on uncooperative Garda though

cianl1 · 26-09-2009 08:41PM

F*ckin' delighted over this! Couldn't happen to a nicer shower of w*nkers.

Gobshites think they're better than the rest of us...

Seriously, fair fucks to the airport lads. Try and teach these gits some humility.

Tasers for DAP!

Dankoozy · 26-09-2009 08:47PM

wtf is it with all these lads supporting the Joeys

as far as i can remember anyone who is even remotely involved in security at an airport is a power tripping douchebag, much worse than your average garda

My name is URL · 26-09-2009 08:49PM

*Waits for a Garda to emerge and tell people to lay off because all of the facts are not yet known,

vay-hickle

AnonoBoy · 26-09-2009 08:57PM

Smyth wrote: »

Proper ****ing order. What makes him think he's above the rules? Not moving your car and not identifying yourself in an airport is looking for trouble.

Gardaí are there to uphold the law. That means them too. ****in idiots.

Here's an insight into those sort of Gardai's minds:

D-Generate · 26-09-2009 09:12PM

Good enough for them. Couple of Gardai saw my buddy picking up a 'No' Campaign poster that he found on the side of the road as they drove by and thought he ripped it down. Instead of arresting him they figured that giving him a good amount of digs and throwing him on the ground was the ample response. Bunch of ****.

IvySlayer · 26-09-2009 09:19PM

Thread title is a bit misleading.

1) The super was off-duty, and did not follow airport policy and was arrested. No problem there.

2) The second one was retired. And he broke the rules.

Riddle101 · 26-09-2009 09:24PM

D-Generate wrote: »

Good enough for them. Couple of Gardai saw my buddy picking up a 'No' Campaign poster that he found on the side of the road as they drove by and thought he ripped it down. Instead of arresting him they figured that giving him a good amount of digs and throwing him on the ground was the ample response. Bunch of ****.

Either that or Brian Cowen has created his own little SA who coincidently wear Garda uniforms. Anyway I've heard of a fair few stories where Gardai have treated people badly, one garda stole 20 euro from a lad at my school a couple of years ago. But unfortunately you need proper evidence to take them down.

Any good on the DAP, nobody is above the law not even the Gardai

Jet Black · 26-09-2009 09:26PM

Dankoozy wrote: »

wtf is it with all these lads supporting the Joeys

as far as i can remember anyone who is even remotely involved in security at an airport is a power tripping douchebag, much worse than your average garda

lesser of two evil's.
people have more run in's with garda then they do with the joey's.

VinnyTGM · 26-09-2009 11:19PM

You're going to find *****r's anywhere you look, some Gards are sound minded and fair, others are not.
Same with the Joey's.

Abraham · 08-09-2010 07:46PM

Just knew there was a thread on this somewhere and there was.
Whats all this about the Airport Poleece now getting On the Spots fines and going to do more clamping when the new Terminl 2 is open for business ?
Is that true ? And there will be more Dogs and Dog Poleece patroling the Drop Off road ? The place is mad out there at the moment with Road Works everywhere. Ended up in the Hire Car place myself where I didn't want to go.

Will the Gardi be taking over the Terminl 2 policiing when its open ?

FlutterinBantam · 08-09-2010 07:52PM

So the Joeys and the Mules are at each others throats?

jaysus, no ground breaking news there.

Move along now... move along or I'll taze ye ye cunt:cool:

Fulton Crown · 08-09-2010 08:36PM

:eek:Good on the fcukin Joeys here I say.

Fcukin retirees from the Piggery seem to think they are above the lawr.

No fcukin way ...taze the cnunts....and test the seam of their scrota

08-09-2010 08:48PM

I thought a joey was a baby kangaroo

jimmycrackcorm · 08-09-2010 09:23PM

The airport police are dickheads, over-eager to try to use their powers. Once, one stopped me claiming that I hadn't stopped at a pedestrian crossing when one of their guys was going to cross. I was already passed through it before the guy started crossing but he expected me to revere him and stop and wait while he sauntered up to the crossing.

Alpha Papa · 09-09-2010 12:23AM

Abraham wrote: »

Just knew there was a thread on this somewhere and there was.
Whats all this about the Airport Poleece now getting On the Spots fines and going to do more clamping when the new Terminl 2 is open for business ?
Is that true ? And there will be more Dogs and Dog Poleece patroling the Drop Off road ? The place is mad out there at the moment with Road Works everywhere. Ended up in the Hire Car place myself where I didn't want to go.

Will the Gardi be taking over the Terminl 2 policiing when its open ?

Yes, this is correct the Airport Police received the power under section 27 of State Airport Act 2004 to issue Fixed Penalty Notices for any offence under the Airport Byelaws of 1994 (Traffic,Parking,Public Order or safety issues etc..)

Also from the same Act for the first time they will now have power to issue a Fixed Penalty Notice to a person/s that have cause a breach of the peace/disturbance in flight (once the aircraft doors are closed) or failed to comply with a direction of cabin crew.

Before this it was always the State National Police (Gardai) that had to deal with this but now the State Airport Police powers have been increased in this areas taken on it alongside the Gardai.

No Gardai will not be taking over policing this complexe its actually the opposite. The Department of Transport and DAA are quite happy to have Airport Police Service continue provide law enforcement services and as you have read above they have received increased powers and also huge investment in equipment/training and infrastructure to this end now more then ever there there will be less Garda involvement believe it or not!

Sprouts · 09-09-2010 12:36AM

Good enough for the P**cks, they are a little club out for themselves, had plenty of stuff stolen and vandalised on me and do you think they could be bothered doing anything even though I gave them enough information. They are only good for motor fines and doing easy targets, shower of c**ts.

Alpha Papa · 09-09-2010 10:38AM

To be honest there is no major rift between either police service without the support of the Gardai the Airport Police would have hard time opertating or getting summons delivered etc.. You will always find a bad egg in every job no matter what type of work it is..

And with everything thats happens there always two sides to every story but with that if you simple go against what any general direction of policeman or woman the world over generally as a rule of thumb your going to be giving out to evening if your not a Garda!

Preset No.3 · 09-09-2010 11:43AM

Airport police? I wouldn't let them secure a smyths toystore! AP, take your well informed opinions back to aviation and aircraft. This is after hours where most of think that airport security are cnuts!!!!

Goldenegg · 09-09-2010 12:00PM

Preset No.3 wrote: »

Airport police? I wouldn't let them secure a smyths toystore! AP, take your well informed opinions back to aviation and aircraft. This is after hours where most of think that airport security are cnuts!!!!

I'm guessing you had a run in with them!! I think your statement there is a tad bit...wrong! Take a look back over the 2 pages and you should find that the majority of posters are in agreement with AP and that their actions where completely above board!

Alpha Papa · 09-09-2010 12:01PM

I'll take my well informed opinion where ever i want but thanks for your concern preset!

09-09-2010 12:02PM

Preset, you've a way with words mate.

Ar*eholes are ubiquitous in all walks of life. Good to see 2 of them get their dues.

thebigbiffo · 09-09-2010 12:04PM

comin back from a boozy stag weekend (now, i was not incapacitated drunk, just having a laugh causing feck all trouble) i got the stags bag and threw it on top of the taxi rank shelter outside the airport - juvenile behaviour i know, but lads on a stag...:D

we couldn't reach it and after 20 mins at 12.30am stag was gettin pretty pissed off. so i decided to suck it up, go in and ask one of the 'joeys' to maybe just try grab a small steps and a brush so i could knock it down. i was really nice explaining it and was very apologetic for doing something so silly.

the 2 guys i'd to deal with were the most arrogant, power crazy, unreasonable dickheads i'd ever had to deal with. they threatened me with arrest for leaving unattended luggage on the grounds, refused point blank to do anything to help me get it down (not like it was a big job) and tried very forcible to get us to leave without the bag. i scooted off and found a group of 3 electricians down behind an outbuilding and they immediately came round with a ladder, all the while telling me i was worse to ask those 'jumped up assholes' for anything and in full view of the 2 s'hitheads just set up a ladder, pushed the bag down end of story - took not a minute. the 2 lads were visible very very pissed off with the electricians for helping. i gave them the finger and walked away.

gaurds are bad - but lads who think the're gaurds are worse

mickdw · 09-09-2010 12:09PM

Having worked for a short period at the airport dealing directly with the airport police daily, I can say that they are the biggest shower of idiots I have ever known. Sure some of them were grand but there were a good number of assholes there.
They really do behave just like kids playing a police game, trying to do everything the gardai do but on a small scale. You could find them setting up checkpoints on the airside service roads, inspecting the baggage trucks to ensure everything is in order, pulling in fully approved construction traffic by sticking the car across the road in front of them as if they were about to commit murder. One day I saw them do their own road worthyness test on a brand new truck cause they didnt like the driver. They reluctantly allowed to him to continue.

Alpha Papa · 09-09-2010 12:22PM

Causing a nuisance of yourselve in a international airport is not likely to attract positive attention the world over.. but saying that you may have just been dealing with just grumpy pf's

There's two sides to every stories of course there arseholes in every jobs ive met my share in every trade or profession.

Generally no body likes being told NO or stopped for whatever reason or being told to move on etc etc...

And yes there power tripper in the AP's not going to lie but no different to Guards,Customs shop security, bouncers they all have them too.. its life unfortunatly!

You ever think that maybe there's reason for the police setting up VCP's or checking baggage trolleys to see if they are safely secured.. ever think that airlines some times in there haste dont secure baggage cause there in hurry to get a aircraft turn around on time and get last bag on?

The result is luggage or containers falls off and can cause hazards to both Aircraft and persons.. There has been serious injury caused when luggage containers have fallen off trailers colliding with persons or vehicles.. cause of this can also be down to vehicles driving to fast or dangerously?

Thats why the AP are there to enforce byelaws and airside safety regs.

thebigbiffo · 09-09-2010 12:28PM

Alpha Papa wrote: »

Causing a nuisance of yourselve in a international airport is likely to attract positive attention the world over.. but saying that you may have just been dealing with grumpy pf's

There's two sides to every stories of course there arseholes in every jobs ive met my share in every trade or profession.

Generally no body likes being told NO or stopped for whatever reason or being told to move on etc etc...

And yes there power tripper in the AP's not going to lie but no different to Guards,Customs shop security, bouncers they all have them too.. its life unfortunatly!

You ever think that maybe there's reason for the police setting up VCP's or checking baggage trolleys to see if they safely secured.. ever think that airlines some times in there haste dont secure baggage cause there in hurry to get a aircraft turn around on time and get last bag on?

The result is luggage or containers falls off and can cause hazards to both Aircraft and persons.. There has been serious injury caused when luggage containers have fallen off trailers colliding with persons or vehicles.. cause of this can also be down to vehicles driving to fast or dangerously?

Thats why the AP are there to enforce byelaws and airside safety regs.

i've no doubt they're there to do an important job, as are guards, bouncers, security and the list in endless. but unfortunately it's these types of jobs that attract power hungry dickheads with no great capacity to deal with situations individually and in a manner likely to be the easiest.

instead, they deal with situations in a manner likely to escalate said matter in the hope of using the full extent of their powers to end the mind-numbingly boring plod through life these poor unfortunates call their 'day'...

Gardai v. the Joeys (Dublin Airport Police)

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