What Has Happened To Society?

RockinRolla · 06-09-2010 04:23PM #1

Has anyone noticed the way we are becoming more egotistical and violent?

What has a huge impact on our lives? Television of course. And Music.
Back in the 60's we preached love, now we preach hate. The Beatles, Eric Clapton, Bob Dylan, Pink Floyd, Bob Marley and Jimi Hendrix have been cast aside for 50 Cent and Lady Gaga.

What are we becoming?

AnonoBoy · 06-09-2010 04:24PM

Were you alive in the 60's or are you getting all this second hand?

John Lennon was talented but he was nasty and spiteful. Hendrix was a misogynist. Clapton is a racist and one of the lads from The Who was involved in a child porn scandal.

It wasn't all sunshine and roses back then.

Herb Powell · 06-09-2010 04:24PM

Yeah, I fucckin hate it when people are upside down

knird evol · 06-09-2010 04:25PM

We can't live in the past. Or the present.
We need to live in the future. The 22nd century is on the way. It's a dynamic new world.

MistyCheese · 06-09-2010 04:27PM

We traded it in for 45 extasy pills in the late 90s.

mikom · 06-09-2010 04:27PM

RockinRolla wrote: »

Has anyone noticed the way we are becoming more egotistical and violent?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan

wobbles-grogan · 06-09-2010 04:27PM

I'm not sure if lady gaga preaches hate. I dont listen to it myself but i doubt it....

Anyway, i would assume (and this is an assumption) that the same percentage of people are violent today as there were in the 60's. its just the fact that theres more people in total that has more people being violent...

Also (more importantly), media has a big impact as it highlights the violence more than it would have been in the 60's!

starlit · 06-09-2010 04:28PM

What is the world coming too!?:eek:

checkyabadself · 06-09-2010 04:29PM

You picked lady gaga to use in your "artists that preach hate" thread. A poor choice.

Mickeroo · 06-09-2010 04:30PM

More violent my hole, we've always been violent,media is just less censored now. It's better that way too! AS long as there's good music there'll be **** commercial music to along with it. Zeppelin et al were never chart music back in the day.

Davidius · 06-09-2010 04:30PM

Nothing has really changed. In a few decades people will be looking back at the previous decade thinking "Things were so much better then!".

Of course they're probably right. Those future people have to deal with apocalyptic scenarios on a daily basis sure.

JONJO THE MISER · 06-09-2010 04:31PM

Lovers be Loving i personally prefer Haters who be Hating.

Napper Hawkins · 06-09-2010 04:32PM

I think the glorification of talentless, vacuous idiots would be more telling as to why society is in the state it's currently in.

RockinRolla · 06-09-2010 04:32PM

checkyabadself wrote: »

You picked lady gaga to use in your "artists that preach hate" thread. A poor choice.

I didn't say Lady Gaga preached hate. I meant that nowadays, it's all marketing...virtually anyone can become famous through manipulation.
The generation of the 60's/70's listened to love, now we are forced to listen to hate, racism, "gangsta" crap they call music...

talla10 · 06-09-2010 04:33PM

Its getting like that film boyz in the hood. And the pimps will have to use crack cocaine to keep the whores under control. And there will be drive by shootings next. Im away off home till they catch that fella with the whistle. Good day to ya father!

Biggins · 06-09-2010 04:34PM

talla10 wrote: »

Its getting like that film boyz in the hood. And the pimps will have to use crack cocaine to keep the whores under control. And there will be drive by shootings next. Im away off home till they catch that fella with the whistle. Good day to ya father!

Turn off the TV will ya!
You will be the better for it sometimes.

Noopti · 06-09-2010 04:34PM

Who exactly is forcing you to listen to hate music?

wobbles-grogan · 06-09-2010 04:34PM

RockinRolla wrote: »

I didn't say Lady Gaga preached hate. I meant that nowadays, it's all marketing...virtually anyone can become famous through manipulation.
The generation of the 60's/70's listened to love, now we are forced to listen to hate, racism, "gangsta" crap they call music...

Ok, so your gripe is with modern music, not society. Might want to rethink your thread as a result of this "revelation".

WindSock · 06-09-2010 04:34PM

RockinRolla wrote: »

Back in the 60's we preached love, now we preach hate.

Who's 'we'? American or Irish society? Ireland seemed a filthier place 40 years ago to me. Might have seemed rosy on the outside but the atrocities carried out behind closed doors make most of us wince today.

And who preaches Hate here without getting lambasted by the general public and media for it? Even the in the UK, few have time for the BNP. Less care about RIRA and the like here too.

Davidius · 06-09-2010 04:35PM

There's more to society than what musicians are popular by the way. A lot more.

LookingFor · 06-09-2010 04:35PM

Gaga is very 'all you need is love'.

There may be a lot of marketing behind her, but I'd figure that's besides the point of whether her music is hateful or not. It's not.

af_thefragile · 06-09-2010 04:37PM

Back in the days people used to watch tv for max 1-2hrs a day and not everyone had computers and Internet. I never watched tv more than that when I was a kid. Used to spend most of my time reading and doing stupid things.

Now everyone is glued to the tv or their computer 24/7... We are constantly being told how shot the world has become on the news and how we must be afraid of everyone around us. While on the rest of tv we're being told we must dress and act like sluts (if you're a girl) or a dumb douche (If you're a guy) and if we don't do this then no one will ever like us and we'll die a lonely pittyful person...

Not much has changed apart from that...

RockinRolla · 06-09-2010 04:37PM

wobbles-grogan wrote: »

Ok, so your gripe is with modern music, not society. Might want to rethink your thread as a result of this "revelation".

Can we not have an informative conversation instead of someone twisting the words? You can't deny certain things are having a psychological impact of people.

Noopti · 06-09-2010 04:38PM

Sure look at Rihanna. One of her latest songs is all about a "rude" boy, and her questioning whether he can "get it up". I can only presume she means can he hold an erection for long enough to satisfy her.

Also she ponders whether he is "big enough", basically asking if he has a big enough penis for her. So she obviously has a vagina like a wizards sleeve.

Biggins · 06-09-2010 04:38PM

LookingFor wrote: »

Gaga is very 'all you need is love'.

There may be a lot of marketing behind her, but I'd figure that's besides the point of whether her music is hateful or not. It's not.

Indeed.

At least she not like the pair below!
There's a world of difference! I'm saddened that some still can't differentiate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR76l9mWVow

antidark777 · 06-09-2010 04:40PM

snuggles285 wrote: »

What is the world coming too!?:eek:

A more accurate question would be 'What are people coming to?'

Society has cheapened general moral principles, correlating them with religious belief to the point where even some of the most basic aspects of the moral code and etiquette are shunned in this increasingly secular society

areu4real? · 06-09-2010 04:40PM

I agree with you 100% mate. Posted a similiar thread recently.
I don't buy into it being down to music/tv alone though. The biggest corrupter (word?) these days is money. Not for all, but the weaker ones.
People with a lot of money, no matter how they got it, are seen as celebrities. Even drug dealers are lauded by some.
Some people have more money than they could ever spend, that should not be allowed as it hands power to them. If some idiot thinks that his idea is the best, like media corps. for example, they have the money and position to push whatever retarded drivel they want onto people. They don't have to suit everyone, just enough of a % to make more monies. The fact that John and Edward have made it into the spotlight doesn't surprise or annoy me, what annoys me is the amount of people that lap them up. The fact that these kids can appeal to so many people is a strong statement of the level of intelligence floating around these days.
TV is definitley a factor in de-sensitising people to violence. I could go on about the problems that mass media has created, but the fact remains that it has also had some massive advantages for us. If there's something on the TV, just think about what you are watching, don't just 'watch' it. Pick up that magic stick with buttons on it and change the channel.

mikom · 06-09-2010 04:40PM

Biggins wrote: »

Indeed.

At least she not like the pair below!
There's a world of difference! I'm saddened that some still can't differentiate.

They've defected since.

_feedback_ · 06-09-2010 04:40PM

Very good point about the modern musicians OP. Lunatics, the whole lot of them. I blame this guy.

Biggins · 06-09-2010 04:40PM

mikom wrote: »

They've defected since.

Isn't education a great thing!

They must have learned some real life truths.

mikom · 06-09-2010 04:41PM

antidark777 wrote: »

Society has cheapened general moral principles, correlating them with religious belief to the point where even some of the most basic aspects of the moral code and etiquette are shunned in this increasingly secular society

Thesaurus vomit tbh.

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