Weekend Racing:Saturday 4th And Sunday 5th Of September

UrbanSea · 03-09-2010 03:54PM #1

Thought that I'd start a thread for the racing this weekend as it is so fantastic. Both Leopardstown,Kempton and Haydock have group races tomorrow.
Some tricky races to call but anyone with any tips/views on the racing can post here.
Looking at the Sprint at Haydock,just saw there that it'll be Colm O'Donoghue on Starspangledbanner. In my opinion the best horse in the field,and although O'Donoghue is a good jockey,I'd be much more confident if Johnny was on him.
Another thing,why have they scheduled the racing like this? Why couldn't they have the Champion Stakes card from Leopardstown tomorrow on Sunday,the day the big Irish races are usually on?

Goldcupfav · 03-09-2010 04:58PM

Wouldnt worry about Colm O'Donoghue on Starspangledbanner he's rides him out everyday in Ballydoyle and arguably knows the horse better then Johnny. Rip Van Winkle is the closest thing to a racing cert tomorrow imo. Big double on these two horse from me pays a little over 3/1.

UrbanSea · 03-09-2010 05:55PM

I'm thinking of the double too. The last 5 favourites have one the Champion Stakes,it's being dominated by Oxx and O'Brien. The Group 3 on the card tomorrow is arguably the hardest to pick. Weld's French recruit could be anything,along with the Stack horse and Await the Dawn is totally unexposed.

scopper · 03-09-2010 06:53PM

Can't really find anything myself. Starspangled and Rip are sound choices but the money that needs to be put down to make them pay is not there for me at the moment. I'll be scouring for some value tips tonite maybe or if I head out I'll try chat to some knowing heads.

UrbanSea · 03-09-2010 07:17PM

Cityscape in the first at Haydock could represent value if it goes off at it's predicted SP of around 6/1.

Goldcupfav · 03-09-2010 07:34PM

Special in pp shops tonight rip and star 4/1 double !

Nulty · 03-09-2010 07:45PM

Already taken 16/1 on Markab in the Sprint. Gonna have a closer look at the rest later.

Straight Forecast Rip & Twice Over could be worth a shilling.

EDIT:
Actually, Twice Over each-way @ 4/1 is a shot to nothing imo. He's not been out of the top two in his last 6 starts in Britain. Wouldn't go mental with the stake though

UrbanSea · 03-09-2010 09:34PM

I agree,I know Rip had him there a few weeks ago,but Twice Over is not a horse to write off too easily,I think I might just skip that race in terms of betting.

c_man · 04-09-2010 12:44PM

Think I'll stay clear of that race. Like the look of Rock Critic in the 5.35 Leopardstown. Will deffo be putting something on him.

As for the rest, I'm looking over them while trying to shake off a hell of a hangover

qc3 · 04-09-2010 02:07PM

Timeform 1-2-3:
1. Cityscape 2. Secrecy 3. Awzaan

Timeform View:
All eyes will be on Awzaan returning from 4 months off and he could blitz these if returning to his winning 2-y-o Group 1 form. There must be a few doubts over him, though, and at a price it could be worth taking a chance on another returning from a break in Cityscape, who leaves the impression of not having peaked yet. Secrecy and Desert Myth are obvious dangers.

great picking from timeform F/c 15.91

qc3 · 04-09-2010 02:14PM

Timeform 1-2-3: 2.10 Leopardstown
1. Await The Dawn (USA) 2. South Easter (IRE) 3. Nanton (USA)

Timeform View:
Await The Dawn is still very much on the up and he is taken to make his return to group company a winning one in what is admittedly a tight contest. British-raiders Nanton and South Easter look the most solid each-way alternatives.

Another good pick

UrbanSea · 04-09-2010 03:31PM

Spot on there. Was on Cityscape myself,happy days.

qc3 · 04-09-2010 03:40PM

Timeform 1-2-3:
1. Markab 2. Starspangledbanner (AUS) 3. Genki (IRE)

Timeform View:
Starspangledbanner already has strong claim to be champion sprinter, but he's not unbeatable, as has been proved twice at York. This course and distance will be more up his street, but at this stage of the season, after his series of big efforts, it could pay to take him on with the fresher Markab, who is hard to peg back once rolling. The surprise package may be Genki.

big 12/1 winner

UrbanSea · 04-09-2010 08:36PM

Good days racing in the end. Never realised Cape Blanco was a gelding,anyone know when he was gelded?

Nulty · 04-09-2010 11:44PM

Theres absolutely no way on earth he is a gelding.

A) He couldn't have been considered for Epsom if he was

After he Irish Derby win they would never in their right mind geld him

Where did you hear that?

Also the Prix du Jockey Club is only open to colts too.

UrbanSea · 04-09-2010 11:52PM

They said it on rte. Must have been a mistake.

Nulty · 05-09-2010 12:13AM

Wow. RTE have to employ better staff!

UrbanSea · 05-09-2010 12:59AM

Cos I went searching after it but couldn't find anything on it,I just assumed it to be correct,but strange that Coolmore would castrate a horse as good as he. I thought maybe he was gelded before his first run or something.

Weekend Racing:Saturday 4th And Sunday 5th Of September

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