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Study Contends Cannabis Isn't a Major 'Gateway Drug'

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  • #32
    BrockSamson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭BrockSamson


    Originally Posted by Stercus Accidit
    Cannabis is crap anyway.

    The reason you think cannabis is crap is the stuff your getting of Irish dealers is called soap bar and should not be confused with cannabis


    The main reason for me weed should be legalised is to stop contaminated weed being sold by Irish gangs


    alot of smokers find to hard to tell the difference



    http://www.gritweed.co.uk/gritweed.htm


  • #33
    120_Minutes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    BrockSamson wrote: »



    Excellent name sir.


    There is of course one surefire way of not funding criminal gangs and making sure you get great weed...


  • #34
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    henryporter wrote: »
    But didn't Mary Harney once say 'soft drugs lead to hard drugs lead to death'? At which point someone pointed out that obesity could also kill ya

    No what she actually said was .... 'freddo's lead to dairymilk's lead to nyom, nyom, nyom '


  • #35
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,403 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    A gateway to what exactly?

    Cue - Ray Mazerack waffling on about "opening the doors of perception, maaan".
    gateway to a multipack of tayto for me now anyway


  • #36
    flas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭flas


    stbrennan wrote: »
    ffs look at Amsterdamn.
    They built legoland.
    LEGOLAND!!
    What did we build?.....

    Thats right! We built the spire. We even contructed it like lego. Piece on another piece on another piece.

    They built a land....we built a stick.
    You do the math!





    coz I'm too baked...

    legoland is in denmark!


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  • #37
    120_Minutes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    flas wrote: »
    legoland is in denmark!

    Dutch contractors


  • #38
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    flas wrote: »
    legoland is in denmark!

    He's gonna shit a brick when he finds out he was wrong.


  • #39
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,403 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    They knock together a decent windmill though...their dykes are deadly too...


  • #40
    flas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭flas


    in saying that there is a district in copenhagen where its basically turned a blind eye to smoking and stuff,has a real hippy bohemian feel to the place and keeps some of the scummers occupied over there, when the government had a crack down on this place a few years ago the crime in the city sky rocketed,literally figures kept doubling and so after much relenting they decided to go back to ways of old and turn a blind eye! so in essence we find out that smoking actually lowers crime!*










    *kinda


  • #41
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Not enough Joe Duffy types on this thread. We need more uninformed debate.


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  • #42
    ddef
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭ddef


    I wouldnt call it a gateway drug in terms that it will lead on to hard drugs like coke or gear. however, i have done both weed and MDMA and I seriously doubt I would have tried MDMA without first experimenting with weed.




    btw, both are fookin deadly!


  • #43
    pleasureman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭pleasureman


    The whole "gateway drug" argument is a red herring.
    While it is true that the majority of those who end up using hard drugs have tried cannabis in one of its various forms; cannabis does not have any special properties which make the user crave or need other drugs.

    So why is there this pattern of "soft" to "hard" drug use? Mainly for the following reasons:
    - Those who try an illegal drug in the first place have a curious/experimental nature, therefore will desire to experience many mind altering substances, generally starting with those perceived to be least harmful ie alcohol, cannabis.

    -Due to its illegal nature, a person who uses cannabis will come into contact with people who supply other illegal substances, thereby increasing likelyhood of experimenting with those substances.

    -In my opinion the most influencing factor to cannabis' apparent gateway effect is that..
    prior to ever having tried cannabis the overiding message/information available particularly from official and institutional sources is that (illegal)drugs are DRUGS, all bad, and all if used will almost definitely lead to ruination of character, health, sanity and life.
    What happens when an experimental minded person tries cannabis is that they find this official message to be blatantly untrue (in the vast majority of cases, of course there are exceptions). Which leads to a suspicion that perhaps this message is only propaganda (which essentially it is!) resulting in the assumption that it may well be untrue for other illegal substances, resulting in further experimentation.

    Education of the true effects rather than only telling our youth the worst that can possibly happen is the best possible way to eliminate this pseudo gateway effect that the RELATIVELY harmless drug cannabis has on the general user.


  • #44
    King Felix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭King Felix


    pleasureman wrote: »
    The whole "gateway drug" argument is a red herring.
    .

    It's not a red herring. It's a cod.


  • #45
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Some stoner puts this stuff out.

    And people get worked up.

    Weedheads never contribute to anything much, except to the HSE bill.


    Rooooight maaaaan.


  • #46
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    Some stoner puts this stuff out.

    And people get worked up.

    Weedheads never contribute to anything much, except to the HSE bill.


    Rooooight maaaaan.

    Ten heavy cannabis users. (non tobacco mixers)
    Ten heavy alcohol users.
    Who adds more to the HSE bill.


  • #47
    Pete M.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    Weedheads never contribute to anything much, except to the HSE bill.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10w3FuCwfQ


  • #48
    King Felix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭King Felix


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    Some stoner puts this stuff out.

    And people get worked up.

    Weedheads never contribute to anything much, except to the HSE bill.


    Rooooight maaaaan.

    You may be interested to know that Medical Marijuana is prescribed for digestive tract problems, constipation, diarrhea and IBS, amongst other things.

    It may help with the scutters you've been having.


  • #49
    pleasureman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭pleasureman


    King Felix wrote: »
    It's not a red herring. It's a cod.
    I like it.. That was clever.


  • #50
    pleasureman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭pleasureman


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    Some stoner puts this stuff out.

    And people get worked up.

    Weedheads never contribute to anything much, except to the HSE bill.


    Hmmmm,
    What do you mean by a Weedhead?


  • #51
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    pleasureman wrote: »
    Hmmmm,
    What do you mean by a Weedhead?

    I assume they were watching Garth Marenghi's Darkplace recently.


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  • #52
    seensensee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 386 ✭✭seensensee


    Yep, just keep going past the plastic cannabis memorabilia , turn right through the gateway and you'll see it on the shelf in front, JWH-018, it's nothing major.


  • #53
    rachaelf750
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭rachaelf750


    FACT:In 1912 cannabis was made illegal in Uk(including Ireland at the time) because it was making bonded servants(slaves?) lathergic/lazy?


    SO BEFORE THE GREEDY FAT CATS WANTED MORE FROM SOCIETY IT WAS OK TO SMOKE A NATURAL DRUG WHICH DOESN'T HAVE OVER 300O CHEMICAL IN IT?? HOW IRONIC:cool:


  • #54
    Forest Master
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Forest Master


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    Weedheads

    LOL - people who use that phrase are out of touch with everything.


  • #55
    TPD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,813 ✭✭✭TPD


    King Felix wrote: »
    You may be interested to know that Medical Marijuana is prescribed for digestive tract problems, constipation, diarrhea and IBS, amongst other things.

    It may help with the scutters you've been having.

    Snacking on high fibre hemp seeds would certainly help too :pac:


  • #56
    pleasureman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭pleasureman


    Forest Master wrote: »
    LOL - people who use that phrase are out of touch with everything.
    not necessarily.. depends on the context, which is why I ask what is meant by weedheads in this case. If I knew what group of people he was referring to I could respond.
    If he means anyone who uses or has used weed/hash, he's saying John Lennon, Bill Clinton, Ronnie O'Sullivan, myself and about 25% of society have not contributed anything to society?? Plainly nonsense..
    what the heck is a weedhead anyway?
    Someone who smokes all the time? then maybe he has a point?
    although I consider bob marley to have contributed a lot to the world, maybe that's just personal taste!


  • #57
    seensensee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 386 ✭✭seensensee


    Of course for some people it's a gateway to a better quality of life...


    "Appearing in the latest issue of the Canadian Medical Association Journal, the study reveals that tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the active ingredient in marijuana that gives it psychoactive and analgesic properties, is linked to relieving chronic pain, improving mood and inducing better sleep in those with severe neurological pain."
    http://www.naturalnews.com/029662_marijuana_chronic_pain.html


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