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Has Technology Ruined Society?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Craebear


    Bah screw society, technology is cool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    I laugh when people proclaim "the Internet is ruining our lives" declaring that post 1990's society is going to hell. Wake up call, the "Net" has been around since the late 60's. I bet you the people at DARPA who conceived such a creation and actually implemented it thought about blogging crap and spamming others "walls" with ASCII pOrn back in the day. This isn't attributed to a post 1980's society, regardless of "Facebook" and other totally non innovative tech out there. Hardcore computer users have been around since the invention of the computer(and possibly abbacus). I am sure Jesus and the lads spent hours reading and writing garbage for plesure. Addiction can be applied to any enjoyable activity.

    I mean, the guys who invented the Unix Operating System thought it would be awesome to squeeze more cycles from their PDP-7 machines to improve their space computer game. So, Unix was invented not to benefit corporate interest but for K&R to play their game in peace! It's not the fault of "the Net" or our "digital society", it's simply human nature to be addicted to something as a result of personality traits. It's not the "Nets" fault you are an addict. Understanding the sheer power of a tool, and respecting it for that precise, potentially fatal power is something alot of people overlook. Thats why you see cases like that American kid who nearly killed himself by messing with electricity.

    "Blame everyone but I, they say. How could I be responsible for my own problems?"

    PEOPLE ARE RUINING SOCIETY, NOT TECHNOLOGY!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The Internet and Political Correctness have both grown at a wildly exponential rate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭King Felix


    Earthhorse wrote: »


    And what if I don't couple George Anderla's theory of the exponential doubling of information with the principle of negative entropy? What then, smart guy?
    Chaos, man. Chaos.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    King Felix wrote: »
    Chaos, man. Chaos.

    Hmmm...how are you defining chaos in this instance?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    The irony of your post!

    :)
    So here I am watching television, playing the Xbox, browsing the internet etc, and it's a beautiful day outside. Do I feel the need to go out? Of course not. What about past generations - people cycled to work, now they drive cars, obesity is up, society is becoming more lazy, global warming is increasing....

    But what about our dream world, we now live in. We are becoming more introverted, we are selfish, we are manipulated through television to live life a certain way or purchase things we don't need, we live beyond our means - building castles on sand, increasing overdrafts, getting into credit card debt with impulsive buying and brainwashing advertising.

    The worst of all is, we are constantly creating new ways to become less social. Facebook, Myspace, Bebo - all networks that allow us to talk to each other without shaking each others hand in the physical form. We are creating ways to become more isolated and distant from each other.

    Is technology ruining society?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭King Felix


    Hmmm...how are you defining chaos in this instance?



    I'll define it as a return to pre-information age relations between the various groupings of humanity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,790 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Technology has ruined the challenge of looking at porn when you are a teenager, which was a major part of it. I remember back when I was 13 getting hold of a playboy and thinking this was bloody amazing. Or having a friend who had an older brother who had a bit of a collection of really old porn movies,which were actually really soft core but by God did we think they are amazing.

    Now it is no feckin challange at all. So yes,technology has ruined the thrill of looking at naked women when you are a teen and therefore has ruined society!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    I'm in work.
    I'm sitting on a bench in the back courtyard of the building.
    I'm connected via wireless to the company's network.
    I've just finished a conference called via VOIP.

    I couldn't have done that years ago....so Thank You technology!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    King Felix wrote: »
    I'll define it as a return to pre-information age relations between the various groupings of humanity.

    Yes I see, but in what sense is it chaotic? What I am driving at is the difference between the colloquial understanding of the word and the strict mathematical definition.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Copper23


    Social sites can be great. I've done tons of travel and mets tons of people over the past few years. I'm pretty sure I'd never have gotten all their numbers and called people around the world every week to stay in touch.

    But now I can chat away on Facebook when i see them online. It's good. People always complain, it's a good thing.

    Some people use technology for crap but thats their choice. I know one person who is boring as sin in person but likes to gossip a lot. Spends a lot of time on these sites seeing what people are doing and is always the first to "like" or post some meaningless comment to everyone.

    If people wanna do that then it's fine. technology is great, there's a world to see too though.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    trebor28 wrote: »
    when you really think about it the smarter the human brain gets the lazier it gets!
    everything in life is designed to make our time doing something shorter!
    the bicycle was invented cause it was faster than walking, then the car was invented cause it was faster than cycling, the aeroplane was ....

    who knows where or in what state we will end up in.

    Why was running invented???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭King Felix


    Yes I see, but in what sense is it chaotic? What I am driving at is the difference between the colloquial understanding of the word and the strict mathematical definition.

    I meant in terms of socio-thermodynamics. It's theoretical as opposed to hard science.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Three things:

    1. I don't watch TV.
    2. I use AdBlocker.
    3. Bliss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Life is what you make it, foo'
    It's harder to go out, sure, but faaaaaaaaar more rewarding


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 jonesyr


    THE PARADOX OF OUR AGE


    We have bigger houses but smaller families;
    more conveniences, but less time;
    We have more degrees, but less sense;
    more knowledge, but less judgement;
    more experts, but more problems;
    more medicines, but less healthiness;
    We've been all the way to the moon and back,
    but have trouble crossing the street to meet
    the new neighbor.
    We build more computers to hold more
    information to produce more copies then ever,
    but have less communication;
    We have become long on quantity,
    but short on quality.
    These are times of fast foods
    but slow digestion;
    Tall men but short character;
    Steep profits but shallow relationships.
    It's a time when there is much in the window,
    but nothing in the room.

    The 14th Dalai Lama


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    jonesyr wrote: »
    THE PARADOX OF OUR AGE


    We have bigger houses but smaller families;
    more conveniences, but less time;
    We have more degrees, but less sense;
    more knowledge, but less judgement;
    more experts, but more problems;
    more medicines, but less healthiness;
    We've been all the way to the moon and back,
    but have trouble crossing the street to meet
    the new neighbor.
    We build more computers to hold more
    information to produce more copies then ever,
    but have less communication;
    We have become long on quantity,
    but short on quality.
    These are times of fast foods
    but slow digestion;
    Tall men but short character;
    Steep profits but shallow relationships.
    It's a time when there is much in the window,
    but nothing in the room.

    The 14th Dalai Lama

    Dalai Lama?

    *makes fart noise with mouth*

    The Paradox is it was actually written by Dr. Bob Moorehead, and it's a lot longer than that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 jonesyr


    dam didnt know that, looked it up, some people still day the dali guy wrote it! and others say that mooreland guy, hope not as some website was saying he is a sex offender!


    dam wish I hadnt posted that here now, ignorance is bliss.

    **** you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    jonesyr wrote: »

    **** you.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Philosophy time!

    Where is all this technology going to anyway? No inventor seems to question that. Individually they create something that reduces the need to do something else e.g. dishwasher means no need to wash dishes at sink, elearning means no need to attend a classroom.

    Humans get excited by that prospect and buy the product. But there is no collective questioning of where is this all going? Is it the removal of labour completely from life. Is it making more time to do other things?

    Ipods advance by creating more space for quantity and TV satellite boxes advance on the same terms. Quality isn't a priority for technology, except in terms of trying to get the virtual to approximate the real (chatting on facebook, higher audio bit rates). Why not just opt for the real to begin with?

    I can't help thinking of the parable of the Mexican fisherman. Maybe we are "already there" and technological advances are only ultimately bringing us around in a circle.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Rubbish. In it's day the pre-sliced pan was supposed to do much the same thing.

    Is that a "pre-sliced" pan, or pre "sliced pan" ?

    Because if it's the latter, maybe you have the answer to that famous question ? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭rhythm90


    mikom wrote: »
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] I'd rather have a goddam horse. A horse is at least human, for God's sake.[/FONT]


    Back to Farmville for you...


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