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Work for Dole scheme announced

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  • #92
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    guineapig1975 wrote: »
    Are you kidding me? Are you saying then that whenever there are no jobs available that utilise your qualifications or skills, you should then retrain or do monkey work for the governmen?

    Okay, so I've trained for eight years to be an architect, but wait a minute, there are no jobs, my CV obviously needs a facelift. Think I'll train to be an accountant. Three years later, no jobs available, think my CV needs a facelift. Think I'll retrain as a counsellor and on and on...

    Come on. Think before you make statements like that.

    And don't forget, this is what the government want. They want us divided over this topic and distracted by it so we don't see that massive gaps where policy and action should be.

    Don't let them distract you. Keep emailing your minister to register your outrage at the state of the country. After all, they work for you.

    Peace:D
    Who said anything about retraining? Clearly reading was not something in your training to be an architect and an accountant :D

    I said that some sort of work in an area in which they are already trained would be good. Everyone knows that long periods of unemployment looks worse on a CV than saying "yeah, I as on the dole but did work during that time to earn my dole doing xyz (work balancing the books for a local community centre, drawing up plans for an extension to said community centre...etc.)"

    I don't know what these people are going to be doing, but yeah I think people collecting the dole for extended periods of time ought to do some sort of work during that time.


  • #93
    guineapig1975
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭guineapig1975


    pog it wrote: »
    Really ? ;)

    Sadly, I spoke with someone yesterday who told me about this scheme and who could be described as a disgruntled PAYE worker who would get great satisfaction out of seeing people out on the street cleaning the streets for their dole- and this is someone in a cushy civil service job who has never had to get out there and find a job in the private sector and constantly complains about their 35euro an hour pay.

    I REALLY hope this type of person is in the minority.

    Judging from the comments on here, I think they are. But there is very strong feeling on both sides about this argument. And I think it's one that will rage for quite some time leaving the government breathing space while the riff-raff squabble amongst themselves.

    Sigh...


  • #94
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    guineapig1975 wrote: »
    Okay, so I've trained for eight years to be an architect, but wait a minute, there are no jobs, my CV obviously needs a facelift. Think I'll train to be an accountant. Three years later, no jobs available, think my CV needs a facelift. Think I'll retrain as a counsellor and on and on...
    "We're sorry but you're over-qualified for the position..."


  • #95
    guineapig1975
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭guineapig1975


    Just to set the record straight, I'm not actually an architect. I was merely using it as an example...:)


  • #96
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Oh... then you're not qualified at all for the position. Sorry!


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  • #97
    goose2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Alwayson wrote: »
    Imagine the proposal gets implemented. There's a randomly selected team of 6 unemployed people weeding a graveyard listening to The Pretenders "Back on the Chain Gang". Assume these 6 people represent a cross section of society - say an unemployed consultant, a tradesman, a serial dole claimer, a graduate, somebody just out of prison etc. A bit like the characters in Fair City. Assume there is no rotation and they work together for a number of months. Inevitably what will happen is it will become like a job, a routine, people will get to know each other, characters will emerge, leaders may emerge. Everyone ends up in a familiar comfort zone, whinging about the government, swopping "you think that's bad" stories. This is going to have the effect of dumbing people down, not empowering them. Some kind of dependency will form. The Eagles are on the radio singing "You can check out any time you like but you can never leave". Welcome to the Republic of Limboland.

    Sound like The Breakfast Club II.


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