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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    demonspawn wrote: »
    By the way, feel free to call me any name under the sun. Be as offensive as possible. I have the distinct feeling that mods here will just let it slide.

    Stick by your fukking gun's lad, don't let these kunt's try put you down, pick them up and slap them, one by one.

    Just Keep Posting.............


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Not trying to be offensive, no more so than you. And they don't always respond to my reports aswell. I have no reason to just offend you. Although I'm still curious as to why you think I'm here, do you think its just to offend you? Also, bit rich coming from you seeing as you randomly attacked me in an after hours thread, what was that all about?

    Don't play stupid with me, we both know you and your buddy FlutteringBantam were on that thread in AH to troll Nodin after he got fed up with your bulls**t posts in politics. You want me to start quoting? I don't think you understand who you're dealing with. I'm no idiot, if that's what you think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Stick by your fukking gun's lad, don't let these kunt's try put you down, pick them up and slap them, one by one.

    Just Keep Posting.............

    Who's trying to get him to stop posting?
    And if you look earlier in the thread, he told me to stop posting here and go back to the politics forum, aswell as questioning another poster as to why they're posting here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Actually, I'm gonna stop here before I catch another ban. If you wanna discuss chemtrails then that's cool. If you just wanna refute everything I say or try winding me up then as I said before, I'll ignore your posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Stick by your fukking gun's lad, don't let these kunt's try put you down, pick them up and slap them, one by one.

    Just Keep Posting.............

    You just wanna see me catch another ban. :D Appreciate the support.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Actually, I'm gonna stop here before I catch another ban. If you wanna discuss chemtrails then that's cool. If you just wanna refute everything I say or try winding me up then as I said before, I'll ignore your posts.

    Do you actually want to discuss them though, or do you just want everyone to agree with everyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    demonspawn you seem to think we're all against you. I have no issue with you whatsoever but what you're saying doesn't make sense to me. You've been shown that global temps have shot up so your theory doesn't work. And that's ignoring all the people that would need to be involved to put these chemicals into the fuel, stop it's detection in the fuel, and stop all the water companies/environmentalists groups around the world from detecting the strange high levels of the chemicals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    if the authorities want to spray heavy metal into the atmosphere, all they need to do is buy some huge, ****-off amps, turn them to 11 and press play:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Who's trying to get him to stop posting?
    And if you look earlier in the thread, he told me to stop posting here and go back to the politics forum, aswell as questioning another poster as to why they're posting here.

    Did anybody follow him here, coz I don't recall seeing you here much.
    demonspawn wrote: »
    Actually, I'm gonna stop here before I catch another ban. If you wanna discuss chemtrails then that's cool. If you just wanna refute everything I say or try winding me up then as I said before, I'll ignore your posts.

    Catch all the bans you want buddy, uprising999 there at the oul yahoooooo.ie, that's me, if your banned send me a mail and I'll set you straigh back up
    demonspawn wrote: »
    You just wanna see me catch another ban. :D Appreciate the support.

    Let them, haha, i've been here many times, they cannot keep a good man down.
    Do you actually want to discuss them though, or do you just want everyone to agree with everyone else?

    Your word goes.................straight out the fukking door.
    meglome wrote: »
    demonspawn you seem to think we're all against you. I have no issue with you whatsoever but what you're saying doesn't make sense to me. You've been shown that global temps have shot up so your theory doesn't work. And that's ignoring all the people that would need to be involved to put these chemicals into the fuel, stop it's detection in the fuel, and stop all the water companies/environmentalists groups around the world from detecting the strange high levels of the chemicals.

    Get a jug, put it outside your door, let the rain fall, get it analysed.
    Absurdum wrote: »
    if the authorities want to spray heavy metal into the atmosphere, all they need to do is buy some huge, ****-off amps, turn them to 11 and press play:

    Yea and if you wan't to put some amp's of intelligence into your head turn it to 1 or OFF and sit down think a little.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    meglome wrote: »
    You've been shown that global temps have shot up so your theory doesn't work.

    Ok, all temperature records show a definite decline from 1940 to 1980. The recent rise in temps can easily mean that climate engineering just isn't doing enough to combat global warming. It may even be exasperating the problem by inadvertently trapping too much heat inside the atmosphere. The protective film of chemicals that they thought would block out the harmful rays of the sun may actually be doing the exact opposite. Perhaps it's a balance issue, and they simply released too much into the atmosphere.
    And that's ignoring all the people that would need to be involved to put these chemicals into the fuel, stop it's detection in the fuel, and stop all the water companies/environmentalists groups around the world from detecting the strange high levels of the chemicals.

    In 1961, a man named Milgram conducted an experiment to see how people would behave if they were asked to willingly inflict a lethal electrical shock to another person if told to do so by an authority figure. 65% (26 of 40) of those tested actually did inflict the final, lethal shock.

    " The legal and philosophic aspects of obedience are of enormous importance, but they say very little about how most people behave in concrete situations. I set up a simple experiment at Yale University to test how much pain an ordinary citizen would inflict on another person simply because he was ordered to by an experimental scientist. Stark authority was pitted against the subjects' [participants'] strongest moral imperatives against hurting others, and, with the subjects' [participants'] ears ringing with the screams of the victims, authority won more often than not. The extreme willingness of adults to go to almost any lengths on the command of an authority constitutes the chief finding of the study and the fact most urgently demanding explanation. Ordinary people, simply doing their jobs, and without any particular hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible destructive process. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work become patently clear, and they are asked to carry out actions incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few people have the resources needed to resist authority."

    So, the majority of people are willing to kill another human being if they are told to do so by a figure of authority. Your argument that people would not willingly or knowingly poison others just doesn't hold up, because they more than likely would if told that it was ok by their boss.

    Shocking stuff. ;)


    This girl is obviously a sadist.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Did anybody follow him here, coz I don't recall seeing you here much.

    Your word goes.................straight out the fukking door.
    .
    No, I didn't follow him here, and he should get over himself if he thinks that, he's hardly that important to me. If you look at my post history, you'll see I've pretty much posted here since I joined.

    Dunno what your second sentence means, although I assume it means your not listening to me.

    Do you not think its a good idea that people should be challenged to provide some sort of evidence for their claims? And not just somewhere where everyone agrees and thanks each other?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    So, the majority of people are willing to kill another human being if they are told to do so by a figure of authority. Your argument that people would not willingly or knowingly poison others just doesn't hold up, because they more than likely would if told that it was ok by their boss.

    Milgrim experiment says 65%, so that would leave another 35% who would say something.
    Also these people would be dealing with themselves and their family getting poisoned, so that figure would likely be higher


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Ok, all temperature records show a definite decline from 1940 to 1980. The recent rise in temps can easily mean that climate engineering just isn't doing enough to combat global warming. It may even be exasperating the problem by inadvertently trapping too much heat inside the atmosphere. The protective film of chemicals that they thought would block out the harmful rays of the sun may actually be doing the exact opposite. Perhaps it's a balance issue, and they simply released too much into the atmosphere.

    It was explained earlier in the thread why the global temps fall after WWII, then sharply rise.
    demonspawn wrote: »
    In 1961, a man named Milgram conducted an experiment to see how people would behave if they were asked to willingly inflict a lethal electrical shock to another person if told to do so by an authority figure. 65% (26 of 40) of those tested actually did inflict the final, lethal shock.

    So, the majority of people are willing to kill another human being if they are told to do so by a figure of authority. Your argument that people would not willingly or knowingly poison others just doesn't hold up, because they more than likely would if told that it was ok by their boss.

    I have no issue believing that quite a lot of people if put into the right situation could do bad things to other people. Or for example when they brought several people into a room, with all but one being actors and pumped smoke into the room. The majority of people didn't move as no one else did. However putting people into situations like these is vastly different to keeping a secret all over the world that people are being slowly poisoned. There would need to be thousands of people involved and they would have time and space to reflect on these decisions. Anyone could get a water sample and have it tested. So covering this up is not only improbable but basically impossible.

    And as Jeboa Safari points out above even in the studies you linked 35% of people wouldn't do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Another of our grantees, this one in Mexico, has added genes to rice, as well as maize, that help plants tolerate high concentrations of aluminum, a soil toxicity problem that constrains cereal production over vast areas of the tropics. At the University of Delhi, Indian scientists have added two genes to rice that, together, appear to help the plant tolerate prolonged submergence, a common problem in parts of Asia.

    Taken from a PDF from Monsanto, the creators of Frankenfoods.

    http://www.consigliodirittigenetici.org/new/allegati/Conway_2000.pdf

    "Seek, and ye shall find."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Sorry for the repost, I hate being the last post on a page.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Taken from a PDF from Monsanto, the creators of Frankenfoods.

    http://www.consigliodirittigenetici.org/new/allegati/Conway_2000.pdf

    "Seek, and ye shall find."

    Monsanto fukking frankenfood, Bill Gates and co, enslave the poor farmer, make him pay, enslave him forever with terminator seed's, you must be joking that cannot be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn




    Please note the "contrail" coming from the plane at the beginning of this video. All true contrails I have seen begin to form at or behind the tail of the aircraft. This "contrail" begins to appear at the very back of the jet engines.

    You asked for proof, well here it is in this video. Debunk that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Monsanto fukking frankenfood, Bill Gates and co, enslave the poor farmer, make him pay, enslave him forever with terminator seed's, you must be joking that cannot be.

    Yes, "terminator" seeds are also mentioned it the PDF. Scary s**t man. Subsistence farmers that relied on their own seeds will now have to purchase seeds from Monsanto and other such companies simply to survive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Ok, all temperature records show a definite decline from 1940 to 1980. The recent rise in temps can easily mean that climate engineering just isn't doing enough to combat global warming. It may even be exasperating the problem by inadvertently trapping too much heat inside the atmosphere. The protective film of chemicals that they thought would block out the harmful rays of the sun may actually be doing the exact opposite. Perhaps it's a balance issue, and they simply released too much into the atmosphere.



    In 1961, a man named Milgram conducted an experiment to see how people would behave if they were asked to willingly inflict a lethal electrical shock to another person if told to do so by an authority figure. 65% (26 of 40) of those tested actually did inflict the final, lethal shock.

    " The legal and philosophic aspects of obedience are of enormous importance, but they say very little about how most people behave in concrete situations. I set up a simple experiment at Yale University to test how much pain an ordinary citizen would inflict on another person simply because he was ordered to by an experimental scientist. Stark authority was pitted against the subjects' [participants'] strongest moral imperatives against hurting others, and, with the subjects' [participants'] ears ringing with the screams of the victims, authority won more often than not. The extreme willingness of adults to go to almost any lengths on the command of an authority constitutes the chief finding of the study and the fact most urgently demanding explanation. Ordinary people, simply doing their jobs, and without any particular hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible destructive process. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work become patently clear, and they are asked to carry out actions incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few people have the resources needed to resist authority."

    So, the majority of people are willing to kill another human being if they are told to do so by a figure of authority. Your argument that people would not willingly or knowingly poison others just doesn't hold up, because they more than likely would if told that it was ok by their boss.

    Shocking stuff. ;)


    This girl is obviously a sadist.



    That's a fukked up experiment with a fukked up conclusion, these idiots thought they were giving lethal shocks and just did it coz the man in the white coat said so, people are idiots, thick kunt's, willing to possibly kill on a yes/no from Authority, from the Latin word auctoritas, means invention, advice, opinion, influence, or command.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Yea and if you wan't to put some amp's of intelligence into your head turn it to 1 or OFF and sit down think a little.

    I'm gonna sit down and think about punctuation failure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Absurdum wrote: »
    I'm gonna sit down and think about punctuation failure.

    Don't be so absurd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 688 ✭✭✭lalee17


    Demonspawn, the problem that everyone has with you is that you just won't listen to anybody's opinion on chemtrails.

    I still have an open mind to this, however when I ask questions about it, you retort with half-baked answers that you haven't properly thought about.

    So here's another question. Do the mystery men do this to prevent global warming?? Or do they do it to make the global population sick and thus reliant on the health services?


    It's a bit far-fetched that these people would risk going to prison for the rest of their lives over this, don't you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    So...one ban (uprising2) and a fistful of red cards later....maybe you all will get the hint and play nice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Don't play stupid with me, we both know you and your buddy FlutteringBantam were on that thread in AH to troll Nodin after he got fed up with your bulls**t posts in politics. You want me to start quoting? I don't think you understand who you're dealing with. I'm no idiot, if that's what you think.

    Only saw this now.
    1. FlutterningBantam is not my 'buddy'. I don't know who is other than he posts on the politics board.
    2. No I wasn't in that AH thread trolling Nodin, another poster who I don't know.
    3. Quote away.
    4. Where have I said your an idiot.

    I was posting in an AH thread about a funny video, how is that trolling some random poster. Then you went mad out of no where.

    And if you look here, I certainly didn't follow you to Conspiracy Theories, I often post here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Ok, all temperature records show a definite decline from 1940 to 1980. The recent rise in temps can easily mean that climate engineering just isn't doing enough to combat global warming. It may even be exasperating the problem by inadvertently trapping too much heat inside the atmosphere. The protective film of chemicals that they thought would block out the harmful rays of the sun may actually be doing the exact opposite. Perhaps it's a balance issue, and they simply released too much into the atmosphere.

    So, let me get this straight. Any of the following constitute proof of weather tampering to you:
    - If the temperature goes up
    - If the temperature goes down
    - If the temperature stays the same

    You will literally interpret anything as evidence that chemtrails are real.
    demonspawn wrote: »
    You asked for proof, well here it is in this video. Debunk that.

    A bunch of unknown people making unsubstantiated claims on youtube. Oh, and a substitute teacher who is worried about ADD. If they have studies showing all that they're claiming, why haven't they been published? Also they're saying in the last five years, you were saying since the 1940s...which is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,230 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Zillah wrote: »
    So, let me get this straight. Any of the following constitute proof of weather tampering to you:
    - If the temperature goes up
    - If the temperature goes down
    - If the temperature stays the same

    You will literally interpret anything as evidence that chemtrails are real.

    There was a study done during the grounding of planes after 9/11 which showed changes in diurnal temps across the country.

    I don't personally think that any (specifically added) chemicals are used to change weather patterns but there doesn't need to be anything added to have the same effect


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    There was a study done during the grounding of planes after 9/11 which showed an changes in diurnal temps across the country.

    I don't personally think that any (specifically added) chemicals are used to change weather patterns but there doesn't need to be anything added to have the same effect

    Thats to do with contrails, not chemtrails


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,230 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Thats to do with contrails, not chemtrails

    Yes, I said as much in my post. What does it matter though? I was quoting a post which mentioned weather variations through 'tampering'.. much of a muchness really


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Zillah wrote: »
    A bunch of unknown people making unsubstantiated claims on youtube. Oh, and a substitute teacher who is worried about ADD. If they have studies showing all that they're claiming, why haven't they been published? Also they're saying in the last five years, you were saying since the 1940s...which is it?

    Are you kidding me? You didn't see the official water reports that were held up to the camera? That's proof enough. If they were faked then those people would be looking at all sorts of legal consequences. Monsanto clearly admitting high concentrations of aluminum in the tropics in the PDF I provided is proof enough. Scientists sitting around discussing using aluminum nano particles in jet fuel is proof enough. Hughs Aircraft holding a 1990 patent for climate engineering technology using aluminum aerosol is proof enough.

    It's become painfully obvious that no matter what proof is shown you will not believe any of it. Well, that's your problem not mine. I've shown you irrefutable evidence to support my claim that chemtrails are real and yet you still deny all of it. That is willful ignorance and there's nothing I can do to help you with that. Your argument that these are just some unknown people is ridiculous. They are people and they investigated what's been happening around them. That video is the result. Believe it or not, I don't care anymore.

    I'm not going to discuss what I said in previous posts because some of what I said is probably wrong. I'm not a scientist and don't have access to classified or unpublished materials. The internet only provides so much information before you hit a brick wall.

    If you want to discuss the two videos and the Monsanto PDF I posted on this page then by all means. If you want to run around in circles asking pointless questions like "why hasn't it been published" (go ask a publisher, not me) then you're wasting your time.


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