Would you head off, into the wilderness... With Bear Grylls?!

Pogmothone · 31-08-2010 01:04PM

Even tough I'd rather Ray Mears, The Bears C.V is quite impressive http://www.beargrylls.com/biography.html

The youngest briton to climb everest (23) .

starbelgrade · 31-08-2010 01:05PM

I'd rather grill him & feed him to a bear, to be honest.

kylith · 31-08-2010 01:06PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Plus one on Ray Mears. None of this jumping around for him. Oh no. The lad likes his comfort. He doesnt just survive in the wild, he lives in it. He sets up a proper shelter, not just some lazy lash up of twigs, gets himself nice and snug and then gets a slap up meal together. Then whittles up a telly for entertainment. None of this, living in damp clothes, biting the heads of snakes, eating rotten sheep and drinking your own píss stuff of the Bear fella. I read somewhere oul Ray went off into some wilderness for a month and came out a few extra kilos heavier and he's not a scrawny bloke to start with. Nuff said really.

+1 for Ray Mears. Seems like a nice chap too; someone you could enjoy the wilderness with. Grills is too hyper and Christian for me.

triseke · 31-08-2010 01:07PM

i was watching his show one day and he was in the west of ireland. As was said, he could just walk to one of the houses but anyway..

He was going on about watching where you were going etc and then all of a sudden he disappered. He had fallen into a limestone fissure that was hidden under a load of heather.

I nearly spat me tea out i was laughing so hard.

consultech · 31-08-2010 01:10PM

I'll just leave this here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-IcFiI8bGk

Sykk · 31-08-2010 01:29PM

Haters gonna hate!

derfderf · 31-08-2010 01:42PM

clived2 wrote: »

Hell yes

Think of all those 5 star hotels you get to stay in

That was the only the first season, it always says it now if he didn't stay.
When he says it could save your life it doesn't mean it will, it'll just improve your chances.
Anyone see the episode where he found some plant that slows your heartbeat down? He said if you're bitten by a snake and chewed on the leaves it will stop the venom travelling through your body as quick and buy you more time to get anti-venom. I think some people expect him to let a cobra bite him to see if it works.

WindSock · 31-08-2010 01:45PM

Grimes wrote: »

Da ya think hes done it with the bear?

He roides him bearback.

Just because BG stays in hotels, doesn't mean he doesn't know his stuff. He still shoots the informative things. I don't get all this hatin'.

OutlawPete · 31-08-2010 01:55PM

Shagging a sheep in Ireland .. I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHY8isbz7sk

TanG411 · 31-08-2010 03:43PM

How many bears could Bear grylls grill if Bear Grylls could grill bears?

Zulu · 31-08-2010 03:58PM

Wibbs has hit the nail on the head - have any of you actually watched Ray?

He makes the arctic seem positively cosy! The man can light a fire with nothing but water!!

Perfect example was the ep where he's roasting this boar he's caught over a log fire. The man whittles a basting brush out of a piece of wood, so he can coat the roasting crackling with honey he's lifted. I was freaking starving watching him cook it.

Cuddlesworth · 31-08-2010 04:40PM

WindSock wrote: »

He roides him bearback.

Just because BG stays in hotels, doesn't mean he doesn't know his stuff. He still shoots the informative things. I don't get all this hatin'.

I would think its because the premise of his show is that he is placed into the wild and expected to survive on his skill set. Which doesn't exist, so instead they manufacture "situations" in which a normal person would not get into and in which a person stupid enough to do so would be dead anyway. And then produce some extremely situational "tip" which is usually gross or involves the use of a item you would never have. The bird **** ass enema linked to early on is a great example. I would hope that anybody stranded on a raft with surgical tubing would also have a radio.

Ray Mears on the other hand has a survival skill set that is insane. Watch the series where he goes off to the jungle with Ewan McGregor. Ewan wants to kill him by the end because Ray is casually sauntering around and Ewan is in pure hell.

KeithAFC · 31-08-2010 04:47PM

Nodin wrote: »

It's because of the fakery...and the fact much of its plain madness. While no survival expert, I know enough to say that going through unknown caves/mines without the right gear, on your own, with no-one knowing your down there is absolute lunacy. Doing it as some sort of 'quick way' down a mountain is the equivalent to finding a good steep part you can jump straight off.

How is it fake? The guy was in the Special Air service. He would know more about this sort of thing than any of us. Its a TV show aimed to entertain and educate. He isn't actually FIGHTING for his live but he does teach you simple but really effective survivial tips which could work in real situations.

Not fake.

Leeg17 · 31-08-2010 04:59PM

He won't let me go with him, he only takes people from the Shpeshul Forshes!

Nodin · 31-08-2010 05:07PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

How is it fake?

I'm glad you asked

Fake 1 wrote:

The network issued a statement Monday in response to an investigation launched by British television network Channel 4, which carries the program under the title "Born Survivor: Bear Grylls." Channel 4 confirmed that host Bear Grylls had partaken of indoor accommodations on at least two occasions when his series had depicted him spending the night in the wild.

Fake 2 wrote:

But among the charges made against Grylls is that a raft he is depicted as having built himself actually was constructed and then disassembled by consultants to the show in order for the host to put it together.

Fake 3 wrote:

In another episode, Grylls happens upon what are referred to as wild horses that were said to be brought in from a trekking station.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2439321520070724

Fake 4, from the filthy Mail wrote:

In the latest episode of TV series, yet to be broadcast on Channel 4, he is filmed amid billowing clouds of white gas seeping from the crust of the lava field.

Sulphur dioxide certainly is poisonous, but the smoke seen in the show had been faked by the production crew, the Sunday Times reported.
"Sulphur dioxide fumes are colourless and you can't see it, so smoke generators were used off-screen to make the existing fumes seem visible," said a safety adviser.
According to insiders, the red glow of the molten magma which he warned could incinerate him 'in seconds' was supplemented by burning hot coals brought in by members of the production team.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-474866/Bear-Grylls-faked-toxic-volcanic-fumes-smoke-machine-new-Born-Survivor-fake-row.html#ixzz0yCTHsBud

...wouldn't get Ray Mears or the Canadian fellah sneaking a bale of briquettes off with them, let alone that crack.

Irishchick · 31-08-2010 05:08PM

triseke wrote: »

i was watching his show one day and he was in the west of ireland. As was said, he could just walk to one of the houses but anyway..

He was going on about watching where you were going etc and then all of a sudden he disappered. He had fallen into a limestone fissure that was hidden under a load of heather.

I nearly spat me tea out i was laughing so hard.

I remember that episode. At one point you can actually see a car pass in the background :pac:

Wibbs · 31-08-2010 05:11PM

Zulu wrote: »

Wibbs has hit the nail on the head - have any of you actually watched Ray?

He makes the arctic seem positively cosy! The man can light a fire with nothing but water!!

Perfect example was the ep where he's roasting this boar he's caught over a log fire. The man whittles a basting brush out of a piece of wood, so he can coat the roasting crackling with honey he's lifted. I was freaking starving watching him cook it.

That's what I mean exactly! He buggers off to some unyielding wilderness and comes out fatter than when he went in. I love watching him whittle something up. Its not the rough and ready stuff either. I watched Bear make a paddle for his canoe in one episode of his. He bent a branch around and used one of his jocks or somesuch to fashion the paddle bit. He also patched the canoe with a handy bit of netting and boiled up tree sap as glue. Impressive. Real hard as nails boys own stuff. All the while he's smiling away to camera and comes across as a really nice bloke. http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080430/man-wild_l.jpg

Then recalled Ray's episode concerning canoes. He bumps into some native american bloke who's a bit handy with birch bark and the fookers build a bloody canoe from scratch. :eek: http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa1/stevenbullen/Ray_Mears_Canoe.jpg Then oul Ray whittles up a paddle that wouldnt be out of place at a craft fair. Compare and contrast both pics. Plus we learn about the native lads and their history and great bushcraft. Bear's not so good with locals. Ray's way better there. You learn more. Hell sometimes they do, like the time he showed these young tribal lads who had lost their techniques for making fire how to do it.

The two take different approaches. Bear is about the high adrenaline entertainment with some education thrown in. He's a survivalist, using the minimum of resources to get by. He's damn good at it too. Ray is more about the education and the history and serious bushcraft collected from all over the world, including these islands, where he has pushed for more research into how our own ancestors lived off the land and has helped with practical application of some of the techniques. He's also about enjoying and living off the land comfortably, not as a temporary survival thing.

They're kinda chalk and cheese in a lot of ways. I'd love to see the pair of them do a thing together. I can see Bear and Ray about to parachute out, but Bear having to knock Ray out to get him into the plane in the first place. Then get Bear to hop into an Alaskan river and catch salmon with his teeth, while headbutting any grizzlies who get a bit previous with him. Ray could build a log cabin with running water, a jacks and a cooker while he whittles a satellite phone to call for help.

It would be good to see them do something together though.

KeithAFC wrote: »

How is it fake? The guy was in the Special Air service. He would know more about this sort of thing than any of us. Its a TV show aimed to entertain and educate. He isn't actually FIGHTING for his live but he does teach you simple but really effective survivial tips which could work in real situations.

Not fake.

Like I said he's a hard fecker. his achievements are record enough of that. Plus he's the head of the UK scouting movement AFAIK so is inspiring a new generation. Plus he does seem to be a genuinely nice bloke.

Sykk · 31-08-2010 05:15PM

Nodin wrote: »

Blah Blah daily mail links lolol.

Yes the camera crew hardly stayed the night, and it's told at the start of every episode that some things are presented to him so he can show examples.

GTFO back to your daily mail.

Mr Benevolent · 31-08-2010 05:36PM

Isn't Bear Grylls the guy who pretends to sleep in the wild but goes back to his hotel?

El Horseboxo · 31-08-2010 05:40PM

While Ray Mears is more interesting and impressive i wouldn't be knocking Bear Grylls survivialist skills. The 2 shows are different and are presented in totally different forms. I'd imagine that Bear chap would survive in most terrains despite some of the deception on the show.

Nodin · 31-08-2010 05:49PM

Sykk wrote: »

Yes (....)mail.

Truth hurts....

That admission at the start of the show was introduced after he was caught, btw.

Star Bingo · 31-08-2010 05:58PM

Confab wrote: »

Isn't Bear Grylls the guy who pretends to sleep in the wild but goes back to his hotel?

i always suspected such things tbh. but what he does on camera he needs not do off camera i doubt he puts himself in them situations unless he's filming.. just displaying he has some knowledge and some nerve - its fun anyhow if a bit ludicrous, big fan of the survival shows

storm2811 · 31-08-2010 05:59PM

Oh my yes.;)

Sykk · 31-08-2010 06:36PM

Nodin wrote: »

Truth hurts....

That admission at the start of the show was introduced after he was caught, btw.

Still have no proof, shame that.

Wibbs · 31-08-2010 06:43PM

Sykk wrote: »

Still have no proof, shame that.

Eh did you not read the post? The production crew admitted this and have added a disclaimer since. Regardless whether you like the guy or not(I do BTW), dunno why you're still digging your heels in on this undisputed fact.

kowloon · 31-08-2010 08:37PM

What is the name of the Canadian guy, I think his programme is called Survivor Man. He's pretty impressive too. He shows some interesting scenarios aswell.
In one of them he was left in the snow with the wreckage of a light aircraft. He started his fire by shorting the battery over some salvaged avgas and made the wreckage into a shelter.
It's interesting to see these survivalists in some kind of starting scenario; how would you end up in the middle of a jungle alone with nothing?

Star Bingo · 31-08-2010 08:41PM

^ yeah i saw one episode he was in the rockies. not as pro-active as Gryllis or Mears just scrounging off berries n sh*t.. but not bad.

Nodin · 31-08-2010 08:46PM

kowloon wrote: »

It's interesting to see these survivalists in some kind of starting scenario; how would you end up in the middle of a jungle alone with nothing?

..a weekend drinking in Mulhuddart?

Mrmoe · 31-08-2010 08:56PM

I like the show and it is highly entertaining. It is the modern equivalent of MacGyver. I don't think anyone really believes that what he does is an exact replica of a survival situation. I don't get why people have to put the programme down, just accept it for what it is.

Sir Gallagher · 31-08-2010 09:10PM

I couldn't care less if Grylls stayed in hotels while filming a TV show which was essentially for entertainment purposes. He's still done some amazing things, for instance the small issue of getting over a broken back then climbing everest 18 monts later.

Would you head off, into the wilderness... With Bear Grylls?!

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