Have you ever being affected by suicide?

Notorious97 · 29-08-2010 06:27PM

A good friend of mine hung himself 5 years ago, and i still find it hard to deal with sometimes. I used to think it was a selfish thing to do, but when that happened it shows it in a different light to the pressure some people are under unfortunately.

All i can say is no matter how bad it is, it can always be worse, so if people find themselves contemplating such actions please seek help, nothing in this world is worth taking your own life over, nothing.

BluesBerry · 29-08-2010 06:29PM

Yes Someone I didn't know committed suicide in front of me and others in a public place
It had an awful effect on me and it stayed with me for years
I will never ever forget it

Banji · 29-08-2010 06:40PM

tommyboy2222 wrote: »

Anybody else think the exclamation marks are a bit unnecessary ?

The space before your question mark is unnecessary!

DingosAteMyBaby · 29-08-2010 06:58PM

Yup. A friend from school. We found out in school. I can still remember the day perfectly, it still gives me chills. The princiapl came into the classroom and broke down in tears telling us. The class just sat in silence for a few minutes until a girl suddenly started sobbing and ran out the door. My entire year was gathered together and everybody just cried silently, barely anyone talked. I just kept thinking how he seemed to have such a good life, he had so many wonderful friends whom he ws very close too, an amazing girlfriend and he really smart and a beautiful singer! The worst day of my entire life. I wasn't that close to him but his death affected me in a major way and there hasn't been a day since that I haven't thought about him. Suicide is a horrible, selfish thing and this country defintely needs more awareness and support.

TPD · 29-08-2010 07:02PM

I've never been affected by a successful attempt, thankfully.

Minstrel27 · 29-08-2010 07:48PM

DingosAteMyBaby wrote: »

Suicide is a horrible, selfish thing and this country defintely needs more awareness and support.

If that's how you think then you really should stop before making such stupid statements.

rorrissey · 29-08-2010 08:01PM

2 years ago almost, a guy who was in 6th year in my school killed himself. I didn't know him at all, only to see. The atmosphere in the school was so sad. It was really shocking, he didn't seem like the type of person who would even consider suicide.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 29-08-2010 08:31PM

Yes, a lad two years above me (a good few years ago). Most tragic story I've heard of was of the two boys in Westport who both committed suicide in the same day on school grounds.

RacoonQueen · 29-08-2010 09:25PM

My cousin took her own life, on mothers day, 9 years ago. I didn't know her that well but it hit me big time and there hasn't been a day since that I haven't thought about her. She was only 21 ffs, how bad can life be at 21 that you think this is the only way out?!

Her poor mother found her and called an ambulance but it was already way too late. The ripples of devastation it caused were unreal, even now I don't think her family has really recovered from her death.

anniehoo · 29-08-2010 09:37PM

I should be shocked by the poll (65% have known someone whos committed suicide) but im not. Our mental health service is atrocious even if you have health insurance.This country is rife with people pretending "its all grand" and smothering in alcohol and drug abuse with no proper help. Awful!

DingosAteMyBaby · 29-08-2010 11:47PM

Minstrel27 wrote: »

If that's how you think then you really should stop before making such stupid statements.

It's not a stupid statement. In my opinion it's definitely a selfish act. From my own personal experience, seeing and living with the pain it causes friends and family, it's just horrible. It's something that we will never get over.

A few years ago I suffered from depression and was, for a brief period, suicidal. It didn't cross my mind how it would affect any of the people I love I just wanted out. Luckily I managed to get help before doing anything stupid and after experiencing firsthand the pain of losing someone to suicide, I would never contemplate again.

So yes it's definitely selfish in my eyes. I'm not saying that people who are suicidal or have taken their own life are selfish pricks or anything, I know they felt like there was no escape and that it was their only choice but I know if my friend had seen the devastation caused by his death he would never, ever have done it.

So by no means is it a stupid statement, it is my opinion which I am perfectly entitled to share.

Fart · 29-08-2010 11:51PM

Yes, just recently; close friend.

mikemac · 29-08-2010 11:51PM

DingosAteMyBaby wrote: »

So yes it's definitely selfish in my eyes.

You are entitled to your views of course.

Just on that though, people in that situation can do feel they've failed and let everyone down and people they know would be better off without them.

Being selfish is the last thing on their mind

DingosAteMyBaby · 30-08-2010 12:01AM

feelingstressed wrote: »

You are entitled to your views of course.

Just on that though, people in that situation can do feel they've failed and let everyone down and people they know would be better off without them.

Being selfish is the last thing on their mind

Yes I know and I wouldn't ever condemn someone for feeling like that! My point was that people don't realise the pain and heartbreak it causes to those left behind and if they knew then they probably would never consider taking their own life.

OutlawPete · 30-08-2010 12:06AM

DingosAteMyBaby wrote: »

My point was that people don't realise the pain and heartbreak it causes to those left behind and if they knew then they probably would never consider taking their own life.

Indeed, and I would say in fact that a large percentage even feel that the people they leave behind would be better off without them.

mink_man · 30-08-2010 12:43AM

suzy idol

ItsAWindUp · 30-08-2010 12:48AM

No thank god.

Fart · 30-08-2010 12:55AM

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

No thank god.

God?.. lol.

ItsAWindUp · 30-08-2010 01:05AM

Fart wrote: »

God?.. lol.

Figure of speech, I'm an atheist! Would 'thank nothing' have been more appropriate?

Dudess · 30-08-2010 01:07AM

noura wrote: »

I dont know why some people do that!!!!

even you hate your life , be sure that there is a lot of your friends or at least one who love you and want to see you around his/her live..

please don't do that. that just time and it will be gone

the life is sweet

I'm sorry to be harsh but that displays a major lack of understanding - it's not just a case of hating your life and the bad feelings will pass with time. That's stuff most people go through at some point and they don't even contemplate suicide. To want to end your life: Jesus, the nightmarish despair the poor person must be going through...
That said, I don't know whether there's anything wrong with sensitively telling a suicidal person the pain they will cause if they leave, and focusing on the things they have to live for, and there should be so much more emphasis on how there is help out there, no need to go it alone... even if the above proves fruitless in the end.

OutlawPete wrote: »

Indeed, and I would say in fact that a large percentage even feel that the people they leave behind would be better off without them.

My parents' friends' son killed himself a few months ago and put those very chilling words "You'd be better off without me" on his note. He was going through some really awful stuff which was affecting his family all right and he didn't want to burden them any more. If he could only have known they'd have put up with 100 times worse if it meant having him still here...

Erica<3 · 30-08-2010 02:19AM

yeah, and it still hurts to think about.

Lanaier · 30-08-2010 03:28AM

It is selfish.
But I think a young person may not be mature enough to truly realize how wrong they are in thinking people would be better off without them.

Ultimately you can't blame them though, whatever has made them so miserable can obviously affect judgement.

The thing I don't understand is when parents commit suicide. When a young child or teenager needs them so much..... How could they not see the selfishness in their actions.

Davidius · 30-08-2010 04:25AM

No. The closest anybody who committed suicide was to me was a girl in our year in school that I didn't know personally. It was fairly clear how affected some people were and I wouldn't wish anything of the sort on anybody.

I'd be terrified if somebody close to me was visibly suicidal as I really don't think I'd be able to help them.

KyussBishop · 30-08-2010 04:47AM

No, thankfully I've never been affected by suicide.

DingosAteMyBaby wrote: »

Yes I know and I wouldn't ever condemn someone for feeling like that! My point was that people don't realise the pain and heartbreak it causes to those left behind and if they knew then they probably would never consider taking their own life.

In fairness, and this is probably a controversial opinion at best, I think the amount of emotional pain that people can go through, which may lead to suicidal feelings, can amount to a form of torture (maybe not the best word, as it's not always inflicted by others).
I don't think it's right to label a persons inability to endure certain forms of (sometimes extreme) torture as selfish.

Don't mistake that as an attempted rationalization of anything though; most cases of suicide I would believe are preventable, if the person is given the right help.

anniehoo wrote: »

I should be shocked by the poll (65% have known someone whos committed suicide) but im not. Our mental health service is atrocious even if you have health insurance.This country is rife with people pretending "its all grand" and smothering in alcohol and drug abuse with no proper help. Awful!

Yes agreed, we must have one of the worst mental health services in the western world; if people are having serious problems with mental health, they're (imo) better off looking for a private mental health practice, rather than visiting their GP.

Have heard a lot of stories about people being referred on to entirely useless counsellors/psychiatrists through their GP (one of which advocated treatment through god/christianity), being discouraged as result, and not bothering with any others again thereafter; which is a real shame, as people who need help can get it if they keep looking and/or go private.

This country has a very long way to go with regards to improving awareness of mental illness, and with mental health services; I think any significant improvements in the latter may take a decade or more.

Mackman · 30-08-2010 04:59AM

Ive known a few, one was my best friend. he shot himself 10 years ago when he was 16. Still have no idea why, he was (seemed) perfectly happy.
Another guy in my class in school did it later that year, i didnt know him very well though.
And another guy from my home village too, hanged himself on St. Stephen's Day about 6 years ago.

Its a horrible thing to go though, but one can only imagine what the victims went though before they did it.

cooltown · 30-08-2010 05:40AM

Yes!
It was one of my best friends. I knew that there was something wrong and I told him if you ever want to talk you can talk to me. I feel so guilty that I didn't do more.

triseke · 30-08-2010 08:10AM

yes i have. A friend of mine killed himself in America about 3 years ago. Still haunts me.

Suicide is one of those problems that most people would rather not think about until it happens close to them.

About 5 years ago my parents friends son who was 13 killed himself in his parents barn. He was worried about starting secondary school. The whole community was in shock.

Minstrel27 · 30-08-2010 08:22AM

DingosAteMyBaby wrote: »

So by no means is it a stupid statement, it is my opinion which I am perfectly entitled to share.

So you have a complete understanding on how someone thinks when they feel suicide is the only way out. Rational thought is long gone out the window at that stage.

quietone · 30-08-2010 08:37AM

Yes, my brother 4 months ago and i found him. He always said he wouldnt grow old and he proved us right!!. Still cant get my head around it. I know he's gone but sometimes id be sitting at home waitin on him to walk in. The way i have to look at it is that he's now at peace. He wasnt happy here. I just take one day at a time, sometimes 1 hour at a time. As for that saying "Time is a great healer", well i def dont think that works as i miss him more and more each day.

qwytre · 30-08-2010 09:02AM

At least 5 fellas I can think of have committed suicide back in my home town over the last few years.

Have you ever being affected by suicide?

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