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The Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Act 2010

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  • #32
    Corsendonk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,870 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    Wertz wrote: »
    Why? How come the californians can get around the FDA systems of beauracracy and allow licensed home growing, but we can't?
    The one way to sort all that is for people to buy their starter seeds from a regulated supplier...

    .

    You can't control starter kits usage and not everyone is a good gardener. Also if the person pops there clogs what happens to their plants? Hydroponic production is great but uses alot of energy so do you sub patients electricity bills too? The system is prone to bacterial infection in the water system so your plants can easily be killed overnight.

    Better to have central control, grown by professional growers not by ex-attic growers and it will provide jobs too in Ireland. I am not against the proposed Act but think it has to be done in a professional way rather than what others I suspect see as a license to grow your own if you have as much as a headache. That kind of thinking will discredit what is a worthy proposal.


  • #33
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    All good points but this being Ireland, any growing is going to have to be done under artificial energy hungry conditions anyway, so what's the difference between it being centralised or distributed domestically?

    That kind of thinking will discredit what is a worthy proposal.

    ..and you're right, this probably isn't the thread for this, since it's discussing medical strains. I'm afraid some of my views on the whole issue are clouded by my personal perspective on the free use of marijuana.

    With that in mind how do you prevent any such campaign being discredited by people who would claim that this is just the thin end of the wedge re: full legalisation?
    Like it or not, classification as a medicine would mean that ALL cannabis would have to be treated as medicinal by the law and penalties for posession would need to change considerably...given that all narcotics fall under the one banner of legislation here, that might be a difficulty...
    Or do you just prosecute someone who has no prescription?


  • #34
    Corsendonk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,870 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    Central is more energy efficient, you can recircle the heating in your system in a loop plus the newer glasshouses designs are higher roofed to hold a steady constant growing temperature. You will be soucing your energy as a large energy consumer so should be able to get a discount or you could have your own renewable source of energy on site. The greenhouses are atmosphere controlled with dial in computer system. Its really like a huge factory unit now with specialised harvesting equipment and growing programmes in place for constant supply. Not many peoples imagine of a green house at the bottom of the garden. We grow tomatoes in Ireland from Jan-Nov that way but the higher price for medicinal cannabis should ensure its viable 12 months of the year.


  • #35
    windowgobo
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    Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »
    I read he jumped out less than 15 minutes after eating the mushrooms. So he wasn't even tripping.

    moreover having talked to a family member, he was also very depressed.


  • #36
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    My mother suffers from MS and chronic back pain. She has tried this stuff before and found great relief.

    I just dont get the hypocrisy of it all. I would hazzard a decent guess that Alcohol and ciggs cause way more damage then Marijuana.

    Has there been anymore progress on this ?


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  • #37
    bedrock#1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭bedrock#1


    Marijuana can be grown in greenhouses in Ireland according to the normal seasonal cycle. It starts to flower in around September and can be harvested near the end of October / beginning of November. It is after all just a weed and is a particularly hardy plant.

    Certain breeds such as 'Swiss Mist' have been developed for colder climates. As for predicting the strength of the crop it is dependent on the conditions and the nutrients given to the plant. So probably the only prediction would be that based on 'ideal' conditions etc.

    As another poster says it is a human rights issue not a legal issue. I refer to Ronald Dworkin's two principals of human dignity. The general gist of it being that no one has the right to force upon you a particular conception of the world and is based on the second principal which is The Principal of Human Dignity - that everyone 'has a special responsibility for realizing the success of his/her own life, a responsibility that includes exercising his/her judgement about what kind of life would be successful for them' - which includes the substances that they wish to introduce into their body.


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