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English absentee landlords look to claim Irish lands back !!!!

  • 24-08-2010 12:47AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭


    VILLAGERS are reeling after English-based landlords staked claim to property that the original owners left almost a century ago.

    Several locals in Rosses Point, Co Sligo, received a solicitor's letter telling them they had 28 days to hand over property to people they had never met.

    The letters come from shareholders of the original owners of the property ground rent, the Middleton Estate, most of whose family departed Ireland up to 90 years ago.

    In the 1970s, locals traced Middleton family members across the globe, and reached a deal where many bought their ground rent for sums of around IR£100.

    But some did not clinch agreement, leaving uncertainty over the ground on which their homes was built, which is in one of the most valuable locations in the north-west.

    Meanwhile, Devon-based vicar, the Reverend Guy Chave-Cox, and his wife Heather, who claims descent from the Middleton family, have been checking land in Rosses Point.

    It includes a seaside home where the Yeats brothers, poet WB and painter Jack, holidayed with their Middleton cousins in the now-dilapidated Elsinore Lodge.

    The lodge was originally built in the early 19th century by pirate captain John Black.

    A number of homeowners received solicitors' letters in July, one of which has been seen by the Irish Independent, with the 28-day notice from shareholders of the Middleton estate.

    It claimed the homeowner was "wrongfully in possession" of Middleton Estate property. It threatened proceedings without further notice if the property wasn't surrendered. That means, with the 28-day notice, proceedings against some householders could start today.

    Mr Chave-Cox and his wife, on holiday from Barnstaple until September, were in Rosses Point on Saturday.

    Mrs Chave-Cox said it was possible several villagers who did not sort out title to their land might have a mistaken belief that they owned their own ground rent.

    When asked if legal proceedings were a prospect, Mrs Chave-Cox said: "We are looking to sort out the facts of any situation." She refused to say how many people were approached, adding: "It's none of your business."

    Mr Chave-Cox pointed out that he was a vicar.

    Honest

    "Vicars are honest and clear about things," he said. "All we want is what's right and fair and (to) sort things out. Presumably that means people buying up the ground rent."

    One local businessman said: "People are quite concerned where this is all going to lead. I know of one woman who actually cried when she received a letter claiming somebody else owns her property."

    Solicitor Joe Carter, who represents a number of people who received legal letters, said the issue was resolved to most people's satisfaction in the 1970s, and it is at least 35 years since anybody paid ground rent.

    "Nobody knows who these people are who have arrived on the peninsula. They are trying to lay some claim to the ground rents that were unresolved."

    - Anita Guidera

    Irish Independent

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/landlords-lay-claim-to-property-at-scenic-spot-2307972.html

    I thought this was an April fool. Some Cheek.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    Someone should have given them the bill for cutting the grass for the last hundred years, cnuts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Foook off out of that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Isn't there something about if you're left undisturbed on a piece of land for 12 years or more you get squatters rights? Or something like that...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    Lol, only the English would want land back that they fúcking stole in the first place, the residents should wipe their arses with the letters and return to sender.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    LOL Thanks OP.
    I need a quick laugh.

    If they turned up at my door demanding their land back, my first response would be in a good Dublin accent I could muster "Would ya ever fook off!" :pac:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Followed with a few blasts of the shotgun.
    No comment. ;)
    (I reserve the right not to indite myself by self incrimination for future possible acts) :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Followed with a few blasts of the shotgun.

    Also this. Preferably with this playing in the background



    Go on home British soldiers vicars etc

    I'm not nationalist in the slightest but these chancers can GTFO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,372 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    They should turn to Pat Kenny for advice. He's an expert in acquiring land from previous owners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 393 ✭✭sherdydan


    dirty land grabbing proddy b*stards! Tell that vicar to F*ck off and suck the archbishop of canterbury


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,755 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    Guy Chave Cox?.......Criminal offence right there.....counter attack.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    PFL wrote: »

    the Reverend Guy Chave-Cox,

    Guy shave cocks.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    In before thread descends into farce...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 587 ✭✭✭some_dose


    I'm speechless. Surely this vicar is just an epic troll. Yeah that must be it. Surely.



    Right?


    Because if not, he can fcuk right off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    The same thing happened a few years ago in Strandhill in Sligo too - don't think anything came of it though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    In this day and age, with banks turning people out despite the fact that the people OWN the banks, don't be surprised to see the colonists reclaim the land they robbed from us in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭nachoman


    Mine the land.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Cretins. We ran them out once, we can do it again. Oh wait...this is modern Ireland.

    Who knows how this will play out. Imagine receiving a letter saying you didn't actually own your house and that you were to vacate it within 28 days. Unbelievable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    I dunno, he makes a great point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Nice. For all you know they could be catholics from England? But again, not that it matters to nationalists.:)

    As he's a married vicar, I think there's a slight possibility that he's not a Catholic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Whatever about the vicar, the locals were more than a tad irresponsible not to have properly sought the legal title to the lands.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    but its his land?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭rainbowdrop


    zuroph wrote: »
    but its his land?

    He can't have thought much of it, if he didn't bother to claim it for 100 years. Fcuk him and fcuk his wife!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Yeah Reverend - you can have my land. All you gotta do is pay off the mortgage on the negative equity house for the next 30 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    If this goes through sure why not hand back Dublin and Wexford back to Norway and Denmark, the Vikings owned them at one stage after all :rolleyes:
    Augmerson wrote: »
    In this day and age, with banks turning people out despite the fact that the people OWN the banks, don't be surprised to see the colonists reclaim the land they robbed from us in the first place.

    So what? Pay your debts or lose your house. It's always been the way and will continue.
    Otherwise I'd buy a house and refuse to pay my mortgage and claim hardship


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    If this goes through sure why not hand back Dublin and Wexford back to Norway and Denmark, the Vikings owned them at one stage after all :rolleyes:

    They only came because they heard about deee Harp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    If this goes through sure why not hand back Dublin and Wexford back to Norway and Denmark, the Vikings owned them at one stage after all :rolleyes:

    Berlusconi is eyeying up buckingham palace as we speak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 587 ✭✭✭some_dose


    Einhard wrote: »
    Maybe all the Irish that have settled in Oz and America over the years should give it back to the native Americans too? It was stolen from them after all...

    In all fairness you cannot really compare the settling of the Irish in America and Oz to this. I mean, the guy's family hasn't even lived there for years and then all of a sudden decides he wants "his land" back. I'm not a republican by any stretch of the imagination, but this kind of carry on will only serve to inflame anti-British sentiment in certain areas of our society


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    Best of luck to the good reverend, I'm sure his conquest will be victorious. :rolleyes:

    But seriously, this is another case of non-news, they will be entitled to keep their land based on squatters rights. This is just more sensationalist journalism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    FearDark wrote: »
    Lol, only the English would want land back that they fúcking stole in the first place, the residents should wipe their arses with the letters and return to sender.

    damn right.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    You hate protestants?
    I'm no scientist, but it does look like he hates them.


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