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Karma - does it exist?

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  • #32
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Dudess wrote: »
    Without doubt?

    Of course. Have you not seen the documentary that proves it - the one about that guy in America, Earl Jehosaphat Hickey?


  • #33
    Superbus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    Easy test: be an asshole and see if you're punished.


  • #34
    Riddle101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    I'm iffy on the whole karma subject. I usually just say it when someone get's what they have coming to them, but overall no I don't believe in the the superstition where things come back to bite someone in the ass when someone does something bad.


  • #35
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Superbus wrote: »
    Easy test: be an asshole and see if you're punished.

    sorry I retract my opinion - Fianna Fail and their gombeen way have just disproved this karma theory bullsh1t


  • #36
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Sorry but anyone who thinks every person who acts the dick is guaranteed to be punished, is quite maddeningly naive. Karma doesn't exist just because you WANT it to .


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  • #37
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,372 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Karma exists but I don't think works weekends.


  • #38
    Wolfe Tone
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    This would be an interesting topic for the Atheists forum.


  • #39
    Zillah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Karma is an abhorrent doctrine that is used by the elites in the caste society of India to justify the suffering and exploitation of those less fortunate than they. If you are poor, sick, hungry or tormented you deserve it because you did something wrong in a previous life. Similarily, if you are rich and powerful you also deserve that simply because it is your karma.

    Shockingly enough, most people don't understand what they're talking about. Westerners love to imagine that other parts of the world have wonderful shiny and magical beliefs that are so much more clever and deep than our own. People in India are as stupid as anywhere else, and their religion is no less ridiculous and oppressive than anywhere else.
    SV wrote: »
    I do believe in Karma.
    snuggles285 wrote: »
    Not really but auras I'd believe more than karmas! More of a horoscope and tarot follower really!

    I weep.


  • #40
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Funny how no-one ever really talked about Karma - an Indian religious concept - until "My Name is Earl" came on the telly.
    Eh not if you're over 20. It's been around in the cultural psyche for a long time.

    I don;t believe in it anyway. I've known serious pricks that have done really well out of life, emotionally, socially etc. And I've seen too many decent people get fooked over time and time and time again.

    It has some logical basis in that if you're nice to people some may remember that and dig you out in times of woe, but beyond that, in my humble its an utter crock. Up there with what's for you, won't go by you, love at first sight, and the local version of karma, what comes around goes around. I would say if you belive in it and it makes your life better doing so, then good luck to you, but all too often its a feeble mind at work.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #41
    CiaranMT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    Nope.


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  • #42
    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭SV


    Zillah wrote: »
    Karma is an abhorrent doctrine that is used by the elites in the caste society of India to justify the suffering and exploitation of those less fortunate than they. If you are poor, sick, hungry or tormented you deserve it because you did something wrong in a previous life. Similarily, if you are rich and powerful you also deserve that simply because it is your karma.

    Shockingly enough, most people don't understand what they're talking about. Westerners love to imagine that other parts of the world have wonderful shiney and magical beliefs that are so much more clever and deep than our own. People in India are a stupid as anywhere else, and their religion is no less ridiculous and oppressive than anywhere else.






    lol@bolded part.
    oh the irony.


  • #43
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Karma vs You are what you create?


  • #44
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Random joke time


    How do you get a nun pregnant?































    Have sex with her.


  • #45
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    SV wrote: »
    lol@bolded part.
    oh the irony.

    lol @ the lack of understanding of the word irony.


  • #46
    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭SV


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    lol @ the lack of understanding of the word irony.

    least I didn't write a song about it/


  • #47
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    we'llallhavetea wrote: »
    naw, i don't believe in karma. it's a lovely idea but no more than that.

    Is that right Miss Dawkins :mad:

    /throws book out window

    Off course there is such thing as karma.

    Intention is at the essence of everything.

    Everything you do, comes back to you.

    Both good and bad.

    Maybe not in this world, but in the next.

    Love is all that matters.

    Pain and time are but an illusion.

    It matters not a jot if you believe in karma or a world after this.

    We all carry on in another dimension anyway.

    Hare Krishna.


  • #48
    Star Bingo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    i thought the karma guy was questioning did morals exist, cos up til recent times people could easily get away with a lot more stuff.. i mean just think about it u could pull off probs anything with minor planning n escape into the night. possibly the same reason religion came about?
    thou shalt not this nor that, cos it be way too f'n easy > widespread n we need some sort of supposed supernatural deterrent


  • #49
    Zillah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    SV wrote: »
    lol@bolded part.
    oh the irony.

    Yeah, this is way better than having a discussion. Let's all fire off ambiguous, though contrary and petulant, one liners and sit back, basking in our own snide passive aggression.


  • #50
    we'llallhavetea_old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Is that right Miss Dawkins :mad:

    /throws book out window

    Off course there is such thing as karma.

    Intention is at the essence of everything.

    Everything you do, comes back to you.

    Both good and bad.

    Maybe not in this world, but in the next.

    Love is all that matters.

    Pain and time are but an illusion.

    It matters not a jot if you believe in karma or a world after this.

    We all carry on in another dimension anyway.

    Peace.

    /converted

    :pac:


  • #51
    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭SV


    Zillah wrote: »
    Yeah, this is way better than having a discussion. Let's all fire off ambiguous, though contrary and petulant, one liners and sit back, basking in our own snide passive aggression.

    I'm ripping the píss ;)

    believe whatever you want but please don't say such condescending statements as "I weep" to my comment with your one sided argument about karma(in certain parts of India and India alone). It's pretty unneccesary imo.


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  • #52
    Zillah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    SV wrote: »
    I'm ripping the píss ;)

    believe whatever you want but please don't say such condescending statements as "I weep" to my comment with your one sided argument about karma(in certain parts of India and India alone) is pretty unneccesary imo.

    You believe in an absolutely ridiculous universal power enforcing an arbitrary and very human concept of justice across the multiple incarnations of our many lives. By defintion you also believe in reincarnation. If that doesn't call for condescending statements then I don't know what does*.


    *This is actually a lie, I am an expert in working out what calls for condescending remarks


  • #53
    OutlawPete
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    we'llallhavetea wrote: »
    /converted

    :pac:

    That was easy, I wouldn't stop to speak with any Scientoligists if I were you :p


  • #54
    Mackman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mackman


    I dont see it as a supernatural thing, i see it as if you treat someone badly, you eventually will be treated badly too.

    Some might say im living in a fantasy world, well then, i like my fantasy world


  • #55
    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭SV


    Zillah wrote: »
    You believe in an absolutely ridiculous universal power enforcing an arbitrary and very human concept of justice across the multiple incarnations of our many lives. By defintion you also believe in reincarnation. If that doesn't call for condescending statements then I don't know what does*.


    *This is actually a lie, I am an expert in working out what calls for condescending remarks


    You may think it's ridiculous and you're free to think that.
    It doesn't give you any right to ridicule other peoples beliefs though.


  • #56
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    That was easy, I wouldn't stop to speak with any Scientoligists if I were you :p

    I'm a scientologist. No wait, that's not right.... I'm a schizophrenic. My other half is a scientologist.

    And so am I.

    No you're not.

    Shut up.

    Shut up yourself, you dickwad.


  • #57
    Pace2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Set up a poll in AH asking if posters believe in God and 90% will say No, but with 44 votes cast here the sides are level.

    I'm beginning to believe that some people really are claiming to be atheist to make themselves feel intelligent, as Karma is an equally absurd concept.


  • #58
    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭SV


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Set up a poll in AH asking if posters believe in God and 90% will say No, but with 44 votes cast here the sides are level.

    I'm beginning to believe that some people really are claiming to be atheist to make themselves feel intelligent, as Karma is an equally absurd concept.

    As atheism? :pac:


  • #59
    Pace2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    I'm a scientologist. No wait, that's not right.... I'm a schizophrenic. My other half is a scientologist.
    I feel compelled to correct this every time: schizophrenia is not the same as multiple personalities.


  • #60
    Zillah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    SV wrote: »
    You may think it's ridiculous and you're free to think that.
    It doesn't give you any right to ridicule other peoples beliefs though.

    Yes it does.

    Your beliefs are ridiculous. I regard your assertions about the nature of the universe with about the same respect I do a five year old who is afraid of monsters.

    I'd suggest that if you don't like people thinking your beliefs are ridiculous that you could get some beliefs that are less ridiculous. Ideally beliefs that are consistent with reality (hint: that means no magic).


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  • #61
    Pace2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    SV wrote: »
    As atheism? :pac:
    :pac::pac::pac:

    Poor sentence structure there, I'll admit.


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