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Possible 2012/16 Republican candidate?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Overheal wrote: »
    Ah, Creationism Math. :pac:
    [thought]... he says tauntingly, tempting yet another discussion measuring freedom by the distance between church and state.[/thought]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Dob74


    Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, and Rand Paul (or Ron Paul) will more than likely be candidates for the Republican presidential primaries in 2012. If so, it will be interesting to see which one the Tea Party Movement (of the GOP) endorses. Also, if there is any conflict or collaboration between Ron Paul and Rand Paul for the Republican nomination.

    The 2016 presidential elections are too far out to project.


    Gingrich would be a strong candidate and 2012 would probably be his last chance to make a serious run.
    Palin would be interesting but she is to much of a loose cannon and isnt part of the republician establishment.

    I would think Gingrich has the best chance of winning the Republician primaries.
    As for anyone named Bush I dont think 43 impressed to many people including republicians so at this time not a chance in hell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Amerika wrote: »
    [thought]... he says tauntingly, tempting yet another discussion measuring freedom by the distance between church and state.[/thought]
    Yes. On matters of Church and State, you can be damn sure I am Liberal about it. Sue me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭rightwingdub


    George P Bush. Nephew of George W Bush. Think he is a serious contender in the future. Is Hispanic, got the Bush political machine behind him, an attorney and is a US Navy Reserve officer. Only a matter of time before a Bush is president again.

    I hope he's more sensible than his Uncle, hopefully he has the common sense that his grandfather displayed often when he was president, is he a pragmatic Republican.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    This article lists the top fundraisers (in order) as: Romney, Palin, Pawlenty, Barbour, Gingrich and Huckabee. I don't think any of these folks would be great candidates - they all seem to have fatal flaws - but I don't see anyone else necessarily in the pipeline either.

    My beef(s):

    Romney - flip-flopper on issues; Christian conservatives won't accept him as a Mormon; MA record hurts him with the base; total sleazeball on tv

    Palin - moderates and independents won't support her; no knowledge of issues beyond Alaska and energy - and seemingly no interest in learning

    Pawlenty - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Barbour - shaking the good ol' boy image will be really, really hard (to his credit though, he is smart and policy-oriented, and a governor, rather than a senator which helps)

    Gingrich - not attractive to values voters; good mind for policy but terrible political instincts - he can take credit for Clinton's bounce in popularity (before the Monica thing)

    Huckabee - punchy soundbites, but may be more interested in punditry than policy; not clear he can attract moderates or independents; progressive economic proposals may put off some base voters as well; doesn't seem to have good grasp on a lot of national-level policy issues

    As for Geroge P., he is too young and has never held elected office - there is no way he could or would be a viable candidate for at least 15-20 years. He is certainly laying down the groundwork for it though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭kev9100


    Dob74 wrote: »
    Gingrich would be a strong candidate and 2012 would probably be his last chance to make a serious run.

    Why would Ginggrich be a strong candidate? He has far too many skeletons in the closet, his three divorces won't help him with the evangelicals and his partisan attitude would repel many moderates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭cheesehead


    Here is an interesting article from this week's New York Times. It speaks to the potential role Paul Ryan may play following the mid-term elections.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/12/us/politics/12bai.html?_r=2&hp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    cheesehead wrote: »
    Here is an interesting article from this week's New York Times. It speaks to the potential role Paul Ryan may play following the mid-term elections.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/12/us/politics/12bai.html?_r=2&hp


    Interesting. However, he's not the party leader, so he's not really in a position to stare down the inevitable howls of "traitors!" that would come from the far right in the event of any kind of policy compromises.

    I think it's a sad commentary on the state of the GOP that none of the current leadership seem to have any interest in policy, even as a starting point. I guess that's why Gingrich keeps popping up, even though he had his chance back in the 1990s. Does Ryan have any kind of working relationship with Romney or Pawlenty (especially since Minnesota is a neighbor?)?


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