Ivor Callely (take III)

SoupyNorman · 08-08-2010 10:36AM

He can be ejected if he is convicted for the fraud and given a sentence >=6months or if he declares himself bankrupt.

Heres to hoping...

bette · 08-08-2010 10:43AM

SoupyNorman wrote: »

He can be ejected if he is convicted for the fraud and given a sentence >=6months or if he declares himself bankrupt.

Heres to hoping...

By that time his mandate will be up anyway. That's what these creeps are doing.

thebman · 08-08-2010 10:50AM

gizmo555 wrote: »

But when he was questioned by one associate about who actually supplied him with the invoices, the senator said "nobody is going to own up to that".
we forged, but that he doesn't know where he got them from . . . .

It is an extremely odd answer since it has nothing to do with the question.

Sure the guy might not own up to it but he was asked who he got them from not if they'd own up ... ...

He might as well have said, not telling ya.

Its becoming clear his incompetence knows no bounds when his answers are this transparently stupid and he obviously trying to hide information.

snubbleste · 08-08-2010 10:52AM

Callely breaks his silence: 'Yes, the invoices are fake... but I did not know they were forged'

Luke Byrne in the Daily Mail gives us more information about telephones, expenses, property dealings, his daughter owning houses bought in 2006, RTÉ's kow-towing to their masters, that we have paid €4m+ to Callely in his career..

SoupyNorman · 08-08-2010 11:08AM

snubbleste wrote: »

RTÉ's kow-towing to their masters

I've been screaming this from the beginning...christ!

dan_d · 08-08-2010 11:13AM

I cannot read that article...I don't want to know anymore about this. I already know that this man is a piece of scum.

I don't care what mandates/rules are out there. He should not be allowed darken the front gates of Leinster House again, let alone the doors.

It's past time that we in this country started to change the rules. God knows, they were bent and wrangled with enough for the last 10-15 years. We need to change them....so pieces of dirt like Ivor Callely can't get into power or remain in power...so the banks cannot wreak havoc with the financial systems again...so people like Sean Fitzpatrick cannot run amok with our money and get away with it.....so our politicians are separated from their local parishes when they run for Government. Our current rules do not work and must be changed.

gbee · 08-08-2010 11:49AM

thebman wrote: »

Sure the guy might not own up to it but he was asked who he got them from not if they'd own up ... ....

I was expecting 'from Jimmy the finch on the corner of Great Dame street for €50' 'He does a great deal on car tax and insurance as well.....'

dfbemt · 08-08-2010 12:27PM

Decades ago, my Grandfather fought for this country in a bloody civil war. When he died, I am told that he saw the modern day Fianna Fail party as traitors who trampled on the graves of the many men who fought alongside, and against, for a better place to live.

My father likes to quote his father when saying that the Ireland he knew was a land of saints and scholars but under Fianna Fail it had become a land of rogues and robbers.

How he must be turning in his grave right now.

The Ireland he believed in has been tarnished beyond repair by them all - Callely, Lawlor, Flynn, Haughey, Ahern, Dempsey and all their ilk.

RIP Grandad

Sergeant · 08-08-2010 12:32PM

Great piece in today's Sindo about Ivor. John Drennan manages to sum up the thinking of the man, and the party is was a member of.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/john-drennan/john-drennan-just-deserts-for-an-egotist-driven-by-unbridled-greed-2288826.html

donkey balls · 08-08-2010 01:25PM

hopefully investec bank will go after him for the loans taking out and bankrupt the cnut:mad: which means we can get him out of the seaned.

MrDarcy · 08-08-2010 01:48PM

What is really required now at this to show this assh*le how people are refusing to take this kind of sh*t lying down anymore, is direct action against him. By that I mean large scale protests outside his house to the point where the man cannot sleep at night for the noise of protest at his front gate. This brass neck has to be dealt with I believe, peacefully but firmly at the same time, forget about Fianna Fail investigations or any other flavour of bull****, direct "in your face" action Ivor until you resign.

bmaxi · 08-08-2010 01:52PM

SoupyNorman wrote: »

He can be ejected if he is convicted for the fraud and given a sentence >=6months or if he declares himself bankrupt.

Heres to hoping...

Yes but that would require the intervention of the Courts. There is no way the "People", in the form of the Oireachtas, can eject him.

Captain Slow IRL · 08-08-2010 01:55PM

MrDarcy wrote: »

...... By that I mean large scale protests outside his house to the point where the man cannot sleep at night for the noise of protest at his front gate. .......

Which one?

MrDarcy · 08-08-2010 01:56PM

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

Which one?

Whichever one he happens to be sleeping in, I get ya!

:D:D

SoupyNorman · 08-08-2010 02:20PM

bmaxi wrote: »

There is no way the "People", in the form of the Oireachtas, can eject him.

True sadly.

From a practical standpoint, how could he realistically continue to attend The Seanad even after whatever sanctions/actions are imposed on him.

He's now in the realms of a political and public villain. Support coming from neither his colleagues or the public, it's game well and truly over but he is really too stupid to see this. It has to be stupidity, thats all I can think of that explains why he has committed to continually churning out the cock and bull yarns.

Our man in Havana · 08-08-2010 02:24PM

He will be told to go sit in the corner.

Amalgam · 08-08-2010 02:24PM

He wins in the end, isn't he entitled to a pension or three?

Our man in Havana · 08-08-2010 02:30PM

Indeed he is. He will get them unless he is convicted in a court of law.

SoupyNorman · 08-08-2010 02:35PM

Haddockman wrote: »

Indeed he is. He will get them unless he is convicted in a court of law.

Even if he does get them, will they be enough to save him from the financial car crash he is in?, I've counted no less then 8 properties under his ownership...all but a couple heavily re-mortgaged.

At every turn there is no redeeming feature to this Grade A moron.

bijapos · 08-08-2010 03:10PM

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Even if he does get them, will they be enough to save him from the financial car crash he is in?, I've counted no less then 8 properties under his ownership...all but a couple heavily re-mortgaged.

Try counting again.... it seems his "holiday" house in Cork was put in his wifes name in April, and that two of the houses in Donaghmede are actually owned by his daughter, seems she got a mortgage on them when she was 20.

8 of the houses in his investment portfolio are actually in his wifes name although to complicate things the mortgages are in joint loans.

He does own a farmhose beside the house in Cork that he is trying to sell for €390,000.

SoupyNorman · 08-08-2010 03:26PM

bijapos wrote: »

Try counting again.... it seems his "holiday" house in Cork was put in his wifes name in April, and that two of the houses in Donaghmede are actually owned by his daughter, seems she got a mortgage on them when she was 20.

8 of the houses in his investment portfolio are actually in his wifes name although to complicate things the mortgages are in joint loans.

He does own a farmhose beside the house in Cork that he is trying to sell for €390,000.

I know the properties are in various names but he is a signatory on the mortgages of the properties which were re-mortgaged if I'm not mistaken.

yoshytoshy · 08-08-2010 03:30PM

I'm really finding it hard to see any good points to the political system here. It all seems to be based around money and an awful lot of thought has gone into safeguarding income.

Callely just happens to highlight the shoddiness of things.
If the callely situation isn't taken seriously on monday ,then the whole lot should go.

murphaph · 08-08-2010 03:35PM

I've had no replay to any of my three emails to my local FF TD, John Curran, so I emailed FF HQ to ask why my local TD sees fit to ignore his constituents, and that I want to see Callely removed from the Seanad (don't care how) or I and my family will never vote for their wretched party ever again.

Threaten their dynasty folks. FF need to learn a lesson in humility.

oceanclub · 08-08-2010 04:06PM

snubbleste wrote: »

Callely breaks his silence: 'Yes, the invoices are fake... but I did not know they were forged'

Luke Byrne in the Daily Mail gives us more information about telephones, expenses, property dealings, his daughter owning houses bought in 2006, RTÉ's kow-towing to their masters, that we have paid €4m+ to Callely in his career..

Ooh I got a mention *plug*:

"Internet forums lit up over the national broadcaster’s failure to report the story, with many posters asking why the national broadcaster was not pursuing the Callely affair more vigorously. On Tuesday, a politics.ie user ‘oceanclub’ posted the email address for RTÉ, suggesting that people complain."

paddyland · 08-08-2010 11:19PM

This man leech is one of the principal reasons why Dublin had a crippling dearth of taxis for years, and why a whole generation of Dubliners had to walk home every Saturday night in the rain. It was Ivor who organised a fiddle with de nortsoide taxi drivers to cap licence numbers, in return for a vote for Bertie's 'machine.' Besides creating a cartel, it also inflated plate values to extraordinary amounts, £80,000 each at one point. It is no surprise that Ivor himself owned a few taxi plates, and thus benefitted personally from the 'cap.' The sheer unethical imbalance of this situation led to a grotesque justification for the current calamitous attempts to turn the taxi industry round to the opposite extreme by the present regulator, under Bertie's other old pal, Dempsey. I have no sympathy for the 'old guard' of taxi drivers either, but love them or loathe them, FF soon forget who their 'friends' were.

Here's the Sunday Business Post from 2002...
http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2002/07/21/story260942628.asp

murphaph · 09-08-2010 06:18AM

Great quote from that 2002 article about this thief:

The other issue with which Callely has been identified is asylum-seekers. He has repeatedly warned of the dangers of allowing too many refugees and asylum-seekers into the country and has articulated the view that many are here to abuse the system.

In November 1997, the Irish Times reported that Callely had called for "rogue" asylum-seekers to be "kicked out". Callely, the paper reported, opined that asylum-seekers were becoming a drain on the exchequer's resources and that pensioners were being put on waiting lists because resources were being spent on accommodating foreigners.

Hmmmm, I think Callely himself could probably teach those pesky asylum seekers (and yes, a lot of them were and are probably on the scam) a thing or three about fleecing the taxpayer.

How's about kicking "rogue" senators out?

bernardo mac · 09-08-2010 06:38AM

The Taoiseach said that Callely's latest statement raises" more questions than answers".True,but the Callely affair prompts many,many more serious questions about the financial affairs of public representatives of various political hues throughout the State!

SoupyNorman · 09-08-2010 07:44AM

Good piece today from Sam Smyth

After carefully examining Callely's statement, you would have to conclude that the more confusing passages were copied from a script for the BBC's 'Little Britain' programme.

In places it reads like Matt Lucas's teenage delinquent Vicky Pollard who bamboozles viewers with her set-piece: "Yeah, but no, but yeah, but no but. . ."

How long more is he going to put off the inevitable I wonder. I actually work very near Clontarf, the air seems kinda think with desperation over this way.

wingnut · 09-08-2010 12:11PM

snubbleste wrote: »

Callely breaks his silence: 'Yes, the invoices are fake... but I did not know they were forged'

What a bitchy article: "He told one downmarket newspaper that he had no intention of resigning: ‘It is not on the *agenda."

Lol @ Daily Mail calling another paper downmarket.

Essexboy · 09-08-2010 12:55PM

bernardo mac wrote: »

The Taoiseach said that Callely's latest statement raises" more questions than answers".True,but the Callely affair prompts many,many more serious questions about the financial affairs of public representatives of various political hues throughout the State!

Once again, Biffo shows he is not up to it, unable to criticise any wrongdoer. Molloy and Neary were pensioned off (at inflated rates) but he does not have that option for Callelly. All he can manage is the mealymouthed " raises more questions than answers".

I agree with you. Callelly has exposed the rotten expenses system, the unwillingness of all politicians to deal firmly with one their own and Biffo's spinelessness.

Ivor Callely (take III)

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